WhisperingDandelions said:

"Daddy Pop (12" Mix").

This is like a parody Prince release. When does "Jughead (15 Minutes Mo' Stoopid)" drop?

The Estate destroying fans' enthusiasm for The Vault in one fell swoop. The full set hasn't even be released yet and the fans have had enough!

Where my conspiracy theorists at? Is this merely the latest tactic in lowering the value of his overall catalogue? I swear there's org threads from years back where we joked around about this kind of release... New Power Soul SDE would've been like SOTT SDE pt. 2 compared to this.

The problem is that this era is overwhelmed with poor material. There are still some great songs on this release, but for the most part, it's bloated with a lot of mediocre stuff.

Having said that, I genuinly enjoy this version of Daddy Pop. I do with the Estate had released the 12" mix of Willing and Able though.

i dont actually need a longer vesion of daddy pop. and i like that song as far as D&P goes. id prefer a rawer, stripped back version. i know everyone seems to love the live glam slam set, but its got a lot of why i dont care thaaaat much for this era even though it has nostalgia appeal. a lot of what he was doing was really maximal and the horn arrangements got less interesting and i felt like the horns are now there almost just for the sake of it.

bluegangsta said:

The problem is that this era is overwhelmed with poor material. There are still some great songs on this release, but for the most part, it's bloated with a lot of mediocre stuff.

basically.

this release makes me want them to dump SDEs now and just issue outtakes compilations/box sets.

i really dont need half of this stuff again.

things have got to change remastered? WTF for?

i dont LOVE alice in the looking glass but ill take rough demos over not that memorable/different alternate or extended versions.

bluegangsta said:

The problem is that this era is overwhelmed with poor material. There are still some great songs on this release, but for the most part, it's bloated with a lot of mediocre stuff.

yes. And one need not be Nostradamus to predict that would have been the case with a Diamonds & Pearls deluxe set of all things.

By and large the choice highlights of this pre-hype have been the "Originals" of material he already gave away, which while good material, he already gave those songs away and they've been out for literal decades. Those do not warrant props. Prince already felt them good enough for release in the 90s, so they were already released in the 90s.

Pure genuine unreleased Vault exclusives-wise... uh yeah.

"Darkside"

A unique look into the process.

Prince mike'd up instructing the rhythm section...

and then later throwin' down with a six-string exclamation!!!!!!

Are there any real Prince fans in here?

It's kinda dead, actually

billymeade said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Theres not that interesting/amazing rehearsals from 85 and 86 too The year doesn't change anything

you must be a hit at parties?

why are you even here?

you literally suck (the positive life out of everything)

nayroo2002 said:

Not just my vibe.

you seem to kill all threads.

noone wants to post what they like anymore because of responses like yours.

such a shame for the last remaining fans that want to contribute, but are absolutely put off by you.

MIRvmn1 said:

billymeade said:

"We hate everything!" - org

I'm sure that if Darkside was recorded in 1986 and part of the SOTT SDE everyone who are now complaining would love it Same with some other outtakes. I think some people are just disappointed cuz Parade SDE aren't the next release and refuse to enjoy any of these vault tracks cuz it's not their favorite era.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

There's a million positive posts here.

999,999 thousand positive posts.

1 not from you.

please single me out.

i love crushing trash.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

theblueangel said:

Jesus Fuck, nayroo, funkbaby and others like them are literally the only thing that's keeping this thing we call the Org limping along...

who are the others like them?

Jesus Fuck Mary In The Ass, there aren't any other one's worse than them!

RJOrion said:

Lol...Nayroo seems like good people...

damn, bruh, i thought we were good?

nayroo2002 said:

themanfromneptune said:

bizzie said:

New previews from the D&P SDE.

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"Darkside": https://music.apple.com/b...1703958501

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bizzie mode: "So you are not even able to create a correct hyperlink?"

Oh so true, and it's not the first time it has happened recently either.

bluegangsta said:

MIRvmn1 said:

billymeade said:

"We hate everything!" - org

I'm sure that if Darkside was recorded in 1986 and part of the SOTT SDE everyone who are now complaining would love it Same with some other outtakes. I think some people are just disappointed cuz Parade SDE aren't the next release and refuse to enjoy any of these vault tracks cuz it's not their favorite era.

While there is perhaps some validity to this post, that validity is highly predicated on this being a little worse than "not their favorite era." It's literally bottom-tier Prince as far as eras go, to the extent I question what IF ANY demand there was from any significant continent of Prince fans to get this as the 3rd SDE.

Yeah, yeah, blah blah dated record sales. Look, Prince is a cult artist who put out more duds than chart sucesses. His cult has many, many, maaany favorites and D&P ain't one of them. These ain't SDE's for the Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears. It might benefit the Estate to somewhat acknowledge what the cult actually wants (or in this specific instance, doesn't want).

If Londell and Spicer ever were Prince fans I can guarantee they're the same type of small % of Prince fans that get hype for D&P SDE because "it was the last Prince album I bought!," not finishing the sentiment with questioning why exactly that is if the album is so great allegedly.

And Parade is far from my favorite era either, but it would have had more exciting Vault material, no question.

And if it's consolation I like the D&P outtakes more than the album itself, but that's really barely a compliment as well.

Wish we could have had "Uh Huh" instead of Daddy Pop 12". Or both "Player" and "I Wonder"

Oh well.

Skip 2 My U My Darling sounds incredibly nice in the podcast, I think that will be a highlight

WhisperingDandelions said:

MIRvmn1 said:

billymeade said: I'm sure that if Darkside was recorded in 1986 and part of the SOTT SDE everyone who are now complaining would love it Same with some other outtakes. I think some people are just disappointed cuz Parade SDE aren't the next release and refuse to enjoy any of these vault tracks cuz it's not their favorite era.

While there is perhaps some validity to this post, that validity is highly predicated on this being a little worse than "not their favorite era." It's literally bottom-tier Prince as far as eras go, to the extent I question what IF ANY demand there was from any significant continent of Prince fans to get this as the 3rd SDE.

Yeah, yeah, blah blah dated record sales. Look, Prince is a cult artist who put out more duds than chart sucesses. His cult has many, many, maaany favorites and D&P ain't one of them. These ain't SDE's for the Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears. It might benefit the Estate to somewhat acknowledge what the cult actually wants (or in this specific instance, doesn't want).

If Londell and Spicer ever were Prince fans I can guarantee they're the same type of small % of Prince fans that get hype for D&P SDE because "it was the last Prince album I bought!," not finishing the sentiment with questioning why exactly that is if the album is so great allegedly.

And Parade is far from my favorite era either, but it would have had more exciting Vault material, no question.

And if it's consolation I like the D&P outtakes more than the album itself, but that's really barely a compliment as well.

Nonsense, the "cult" is very satisfied.

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paisleyparkgirl said:

Nonsense, the "cult" is very satisfied.

Nah. SOTT SDE they were satisfied. People only complained about uber nerd MP3 sources, formatting, omissions and configs with that one.

With D&P SDE, before it's even come out, there's sentiment of people either being positively unenthused ("well I guess I just hoped there were more treasures buried in the Vault") to outright disdain over this set (yours truly).

The org is old-school so we wear our deep opinions on our sleeves a bit more than some of the other places trying to self-manifest some self help book new-age zen neo-positivity, or just plain gen-Z sawft.

Whatever circle of Prince fandom you observe, people are just not as hype for this as they were SOTT SDE. SOTT SDE we were salivating like a pack ravenous dogs over a single T-Bone. D&P SDE Prince web is like "yeah... it'..it's... okay............ . . . ."

You genuinely see no difference in fan reaction?

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billymeade said:

MIRvmn1 said:

billymeade said:

"We hate everything!" - org

I'm sure that if Darkside was recorded in 1986 and part of the SOTT SDE everyone who are now complaining would love it Same with some other outtakes. I think some people are just disappointed cuz Parade SDE aren't the next release and refuse to enjoy any of these vault tracks cuz it's not their favorite era.

Nah, "Darkside" sounds really cool musically but the vocal instructions detract from it. I'd be happy to hear it in instrumental form because it sounds a lot more raw than "Blood On The Sheets" (or what I remember of it)