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Reply #30 posted 10/14/23 3:51am

boomshaka

paisleyparkgirl said:



boomshaka said:


antonb said:
Unless done properly, this will be a disaster for princes legacy. In this day and age. They will say she was groomed

I love Prince dearly, but let's be honest that's exactly what happened. She already wrote the book why do we need a visual accompaniment of a 30 something year old Prince befriending a 16 year old that he stayed in touch with, claimed guardianship of (so she could work for him), and then had sex with (once she was of legal age). Even if done properly it will leave people uneasy. I read the book, and generally enjoyed the Prince/Mayte dynamic, I just don't think this a good idea at all. I can see the Estate blocking this - I hope they do.

I second that.


A movie about Prince's entire life would be better.



I can just read PrinceVault and watch the countless footage that we already have. I'd rather have genuine Prince footage instead of some schmuck in a bad wig.
[Edited 10/13/23 20:52pm]
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Reply #31 posted 10/14/23 5:55am

TrivialPursuit

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paisleyparkgirl said:

I can't believe you guys claim to be so knowledgeable about Prince yet you can't tell these clips are from a Prince Reelz Documentary from a few years ago. Tsk Tsk Tsk. sad sad sad


Maybe we never wasted time watching the Reelz documentary. I don't know that from the real thing - because why would I?

But kudos to you for all that unclaimed time. tsk Tsk TSK.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #32 posted 10/14/23 7:48am

bizzie

TrivialPursuit said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I can't believe you guys claim to be so knowledgeable about Prince yet you can't tell these clips are from a Prince Reelz Documentary from a few years ago. Tsk Tsk Tsk. sad sad sad


Maybe we never wasted time watching the Reelz documentary. I don't know that from the real thing - because why would I?

But kudos to you for all that unclaimed time. tsk Tsk TSK.

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I haven't watched that Reelz crap, but I do know that Baron has posted clips from it repeatedly since its release.

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Also, the Mayte deal was just announced. You think they already made the movie and are about to release it?

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Then again, you once claimed that Miko Weaver left before the Nude Tour. I guess you "didn't waste time" watching all those live videos from that tour.

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Reply #33 posted 10/14/23 8:32am

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boomshaka said:

antonb said:

Unless done properly, this will be a disaster for princes legacy. In this day and age. They will say she was groomed


I love Prince dearly, but let's be honest that's exactly what happened. She already wrote the book why do we need a visual accompaniment of a 30 something year old Prince befriending a 16 year old that he stayed in touch with, claimed guardianship of (so she could work for him), and then had sex with (once she was of legal age). Even if done properly it will leave people uneasy.
I read the book, and generally enjoyed the Prince/Mayte dynamic, I just don't think this a good idea at all. I can see the Estate blocking this - I hope they do.


Agreed. I actually enjoyed her book and thought it was very loving and respectful. And I thought the stories about their early encounters were kind of sweet. But he was in his 30s and she was a teen. And that note that was auctioned off, written to Mayte from Prince, about the Walk Don’t Walk video, where he says he has all of her belly dancing videos hidden in a private place and only he knows where they are - that kind of gave me the ick.
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Reply #34 posted 10/14/23 9:33am

antonb

To be honest , I kind have distanced myself from Prince the last couple of years because of some of his dubious actions with her and probably worse, Anna Fantastic, sorry don’t know her proper name. I know both have said it wasn’t a seedy relationship. And they both were totally on board. However it still doesn’t look good on Prince .If the media gets proper hold of it. It could be poisonous for Princes legacy. I myself have struggled a bit with myself being a father of 2 daughters! As I have got older I can get over the brilliance of the man music wise. I still love the performer and the music.
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Reply #35 posted 10/14/23 10:40am

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I get fans not wanting it to come out because it might tarnish Prince's legacy in the public eye--and I do believe this is a legitimate concern with cancel culture and not even that but gen-Z morality and awareness of pop culture. It's basically old-school rock star cliche to indulge in scandalous age gaps--justifiably it is looked at differently now, but those other aged rock icons also got more clout with the gens due to playlist "hits" and get an unspoken reprieve. Most of even millennial-to-gen-Z know Prince only as the "Purple Rain" guy, and then they can add this... It could very well become his legacy.

On the flip, it is what it is. Fans can't want more Prince coverage in the media and then get flippant when it actually covers real areas of his personal life, that's how these things go, and these are decisions he made and were out there publically anyway.

Personally, this is why I've always been against the Netflix doc or wanting a doc series or a movie. Not because I'm against exposing him to new people, because as this thread highlights there are very real concerns of doing so in doc/biog form. Plus, art wise, with how the Estate has gone so far, it'll be 65% '1999' and 'Purple Rain', 35% 'Diamonds and Pearls' and however they divide the rest between the other 38 albums, drugs/scandals/Mayte/Anna Fantastic/going off on bandmembers Jordan 'Last Dance' style.

'Cause worst case scenario he gets cancelled and can't get distribution for more Vault/SDEs...

That being said, I felt Mayte's book was as "tasteful" a depiction of their relationship as you're possibly gonna ever get out of this subject...

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Reply #36 posted 10/14/23 11:27am

fortuneandsere
ndipity

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That 30 second clip is offensively awful and this will be a disaster


Now why you make stuff up.




The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #37 posted 10/14/23 11:31am

fortuneandsere
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As long as this film includes the moment in '93 when Prince simulated phallus in hole action between songs at the bagley warehouse gig, I'll be happy. Bonus if me and Mike are included as highlights #nosmokingincident




The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #38 posted 10/14/23 12:50pm

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Prince fans dont need to be so over protective
I saw sofia Coppola's film Priscilla on elvis and priscilla who he met while she was in school
I doubt this mayte movie will be any different to that uh courtship
Lets hope its a good movie and well made if nothing else
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Reply #39 posted 10/14/23 1:02pm

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I mean Prince was seeing Carmen Electra when he met Mayte, and Mayte is pretty clear in the book that nothing happened. They'd have to flat out change her story to imply something did. It's possible they could for some shock value, but then I'd expect to see Mayte speak against them.

The production company is pretty small time though. It's going to be a made for TV movie. They're not going to be able to use any of his music, no actual footage, no big names attached.

I don't know what Netflix/The estate are doing with regards to the documentary, but they need to sort it out and make something happen. While I don't think Mayte's movie will be huge, it'll be enough to inspire several unofficial documentaries.To the point that the official doc just won't matter to anyone other than the hardcore fans.
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Reply #40 posted 10/14/23 1:51pm

RJOrion

DANCE GIRL, LEMME SEE THAT BOOTY BOOM !!
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Reply #41 posted 10/14/23 3:42pm

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antonb said:

To be honest , I kind have distanced myself from Prince the last couple of years because of some of his dubious actions with her and probably worse, Anna Fantastic, sorry don’t know her proper name. I know both have said it wasn’t a seedy relationship. And they both were totally on board. However it still doesn’t look good on Prince .If the media gets proper hold of it. It could be poisonous for Princes legacy. I myself have struggled a bit with myself being a father of 2 daughters! As I have got older I can get over the brilliance of the man music wise. I still love the performer and the music.

In the meantime, Prince changed and became someone else. Why hold these actions against him forever ? I don't think it's fair at all.

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Reply #42 posted 10/14/23 3:43pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I can't believe you guys claim to be so knowledgeable about Prince yet you can't tell these clips are from a Prince Reelz Documentary from a few years ago. Tsk Tsk Tsk. sad sad sad


Maybe we never wasted time watching the Reelz documentary. I don't know that from the real thing - because why would I?

But kudos to you for all that unclaimed time. tsk Tsk TSK.

Clips have been circulating since forever. I haven't watched the entire thing either but at least I am aware of where they came from, aren't you the same one who hadn't seen the Miko fight until recently ? Tsk tsk tsk.

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Reply #43 posted 10/14/23 7:24pm

TheTruth123

boomshaka said:

antonb said:
Unless done properly, this will be a disaster for princes legacy. In this day and age. They will say she was groomed
I love Prince dearly, but let's be honest that's exactly what happened. She already wrote the book why do we need a visual accompaniment of a 30 something year old Prince befriending a 16 year old that he stayed in touch with, claimed guardianship of (so she could work for him), and then had sex with (once she was of legal age). Even if done properly it will leave people uneasy. I read the book, and generally enjoyed the Prince/Mayte dynamic, I just don't think this a good idea at all. I can see the Estate blocking this - I hope they do.

They won't. Lonnie is just like Mayte and Sheila.

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Reply #44 posted 10/14/23 7:31pm

TheTruth123

If i were a schemer, and I liked money too much...

I could use negative attention if necessary to be somebody...

AND get rich...

All the while figuring, "The public has a short memory. They'll forgive it later."

If I didn't care about my Soul...

I could do those things.

This just goes to show that she really doesn't Love Prince.

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Reply #45 posted 10/14/23 7:44pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Maybe we never wasted time watching the Reelz documentary. I don't know that from the real thing - because why would I?

But kudos to you for all that unclaimed time. tsk Tsk TSK.

Clips have been circulating since forever. I haven't watched the entire thing either but at least I am aware of where they came from, aren't you the same one who hadn't seen the Miko fight until recently ? Tsk tsk tsk.

I. Don't. Watch. Reelz. You can tsk tsk all day but I don't waste my time on garbage. If that's what you put yourself, well - there ya go.

And why would I know about the Miko right? The audio of that rehearsal, which I love a lot, didn't have that in it. So - again, why would I know?

Seems like you've spent a lot of time on stuff that's just irrelevant. But keep watching Reelz, girl. I'm sure there's a Whitney marathon coming up or something. 🙄

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #46 posted 10/14/23 10:41pm

rap

bizzie said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Maybe we never wasted time watching the Reelz documentary. I don't know that from the real thing - because why would I?

But kudos to you for all that unclaimed time. tsk Tsk TSK.

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I haven't watched that Reelz crap, but I do know that Baron has posted clips from it repeatedly since its release.

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Also, the Mayte deal was just announced. You think they already made the movie and are about to release it?

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Then again, you once claimed that Miko Weaver left before the Nude Tour. I guess you "didn't waste time" watching all those live videos from that tour.

Oh, Bort, I guess you didn't waste time reading the Rules of the Discussion Forums regarding trolling and keeping posts on-topic. As someone who has multiple profiles, you should have read them multiple times!!

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Reply #47 posted 10/15/23 12:57am

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rap said:

Oh, Bort, I guess you didn't waste time reading the Rules of the Discussion Forums regarding trolling and keeping posts on-topic. As someone who has multiple profiles, you should have read them multiple times!!


She's boring, leave her. If she wants to be the expert, let her. It's a pissing contest, and my bladder is empty.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #48 posted 10/15/23 1:00am

TheTruth123

Just in case no one ever saw this VIDEO...

https://youtu.be/JjEi3ubjJKc?si=QoE22u6-xS-z86SP

#mce_temp_url#

[Edited 10/16/23 7:37am]

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Reply #49 posted 10/15/23 1:22am

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luv2tha99s said:

Rami Malik as P or I'm not watching lol.


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He would be perfect.
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First I need a picture of your mother, to verify the fact that there's not another one in the universe so supreme!!"
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Reply #50 posted 10/15/23 6:57am

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If they're gonna tell his story (moreso with the Netflix doc than Mayte's story) they should tell everything- warts and all. Spin it anyway you want but his relationships with Mayte and Anna Fantastic were "seedy" to say the least and I suspect it's just the tip of the iceberg. On the flip side of the same coin if they're gonna dish on the dirt they need to include all of the good, philanthropic things he did. I don't want to see them hero-worship Prince anymore than I want to see them demonize him. Just an honest, complete as possible portrait of the man and a celebration of his music and stage artistry.

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Reply #51 posted 10/15/23 3:57pm

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laytonian said:

luv2tha99s said:

Rami Malik as P or I'm not watching lol.


He's already done that, poorly, on SNL.
He's also too large.


Yeah Brainiac, that's what I was referencing. Some of you guys have your purple walking sticks shoved so far up your butts none of you know how to take a joke. Get off your high horses of pontification. Of course this is going to be a disaster! Learn to lighten up!
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Reply #52 posted 10/15/23 4:01pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

rap said:

Oh, Bort, I guess you didn't waste time reading the Rules of the Discussion Forums regarding trolling and keeping posts on-topic. As someone who has multiple profiles, you should have read them multiple times!!


She's boring, leave her. If she wants to be the expert, let her. It's a pissing contest, and my bladder is empty.

Just admit defeat. It's okay. biggrin

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Reply #53 posted 10/15/23 9:08pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

TrivialPursuit said:


She's boring, leave her. If she wants to be the expert, let her. It's a pissing contest, and my bladder is empty.

Just admit defeat. It's okay. biggrin


It's not a contest for me, sugar. I'm not competing with no one here. I haven't watched every minute of every video ever to come out with Prince in it. If I missed something, so be it. My life has moved forward regardless.

Again, congrats on your "win."

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #54 posted 10/16/23 6:51pm

SpookyPurple

The production company mentioned is not a serious Hollywood player. In fact, they’re based in Atlanta and primarily do trashy reality TV. If this ends up being a feature film it’ll be relegated to the figurative bargain bin. No one will see it so it doesn’t really matter what they do.
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Reply #55 posted 10/16/23 7:04pm

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SpookyPurple said:

The production company mentioned is not a serious Hollywood player. In fact, they’re based in Atlanta and primarily do trashy reality TV. If this ends up being a feature film it’ll be relegated to the figurative bargain bin. No one will see it so it doesn’t really matter what they do.

Put it where it belongs... razz lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #56 posted 10/16/23 8:53pm

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lol
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Reply #57 posted 10/16/23 8:59pm

SpookyPurple

TheTruth123 said:



boomshaka said:


antonb said:
Unless done properly, this will be a disaster for princes legacy. In this day and age. They will say she was groomed

I love Prince dearly, but let's be honest that's exactly what happened. She already wrote the book why do we need a visual accompaniment of a 30 something year old Prince befriending a 16 year old that he stayed in touch with, claimed guardianship of (so she could work for him), and then had sex with (once she was of legal age). Even if done properly it will leave people uneasy. I read the book, and generally enjoyed the Prince/Mayte dynamic, I just don't think this a good idea at all. I can see the Estate blocking this - I hope they do.

They won't. Lonnie is just like Mayte and Sheila.




The Estate couldn’t block the making of this movie even if they wanted. Prince is a public figure so he’s fair legal game. They can and would likely prevent any of his music from being used but that’s all they can do. But the reality is this will likely never actually get made anyway. Hundreds of film projects get put into development each year and only a small fraction ever get produced and many of those don’t even ever get released. If this gets made I bet it’s done so as a cable TV movie for BET if anything.
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Reply #58 posted 10/17/23 1:28pm

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TrivialPersuit said :
“I get that Mayte is trying to make a living, etc. I have no problem with that. People can bark about "she's just trying to make a buck off his death." And the estate isn't? Charlies Spicer, Londell - all those people aren't digging their finger in the pie deeper like it's a virgin piece of ass? She has a right to tell her story, make it into a movie, etc. I don't begrudge her that.“
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I fully agree this time.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #59 posted 10/17/23 4:31pm

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Last night Mayte told everybody to relax and that the movie will make everyone love Prince even more.

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