so cool! didn't think p could pull this off live but here it is and it sounds great!

Is this taken from a full rehersal show or just the one take. It is super cool, better than the released version.

Best Prince related thing I've heard in ages.

kindofblue said:

Found these comments:

"These rehearsals were intended for the performances that would be filmed for use in the SOTT movie, as one of the side-story vignettes. A live soundstage version of Crystal Ball was filmed for potential use therein, likely to be overdubbed in the studio later, as with some of the other tracks appearing in the movie. But it was dropped early into post-production. The allusions to the subject matter, however, remain in the final film."

umm where were these comments found, and are there any more?

TheCollecter said:

At least the version I found, the tape speed runs a bit slow, it sounds much better and natural if you speed it up via a DAW (Audacity is an easy free one) until is reaches concert F, with standard tuning practice of A=440, as its key

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mb71 said:

IngridTheSpiritChild said:

mb71 said:

Best Prince related thing I've heard in ages.

The live take of ADORE last year was also remarkable. Hopefully this new set will have equal treasures.

Was Adore the version shared by Candy Dulfer? It is good indeed.

Re Crystal Ball. I've not heard that it's part of a new set or whatever, but I hope more does get shared. I think I understand why whoever it is that is sharing may be holding back though.

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Excellent that after all these years surprprises like this emerge! Can`t wait to hear it

tHANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING THIS

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strawberryletter23 said:

At least the version I found, the tape speed runs a bit slow, it sounds much better and natural if you speed it up via a DAW (Audacity is an easy free one) about 7% or so

[Edited 9/8/23 13:16pm]

I like how you just presume the tape runs slow. It's fine as is.

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Marrk said:

strawberryletter23 said:

At least the version I found, the tape speed runs a bit slow, it sounds much better and natural if you speed it up via a DAW (Audacity is an easy free one) about 7% or so

[Edited 9/8/23 13:16pm]

I like how you just presume the tape runs slow.

I mean, unless the implication is that the band, including the horns and electronic keys/synths, all just for this one performance tuned down their instruments less than a semi-tone, thus not being in tune with either E or F (its original key on the original official release) and collectiely deviating from standard practice A=440 tuning - there really isn't any other logical conclusion to be made here

Even not taking any of the standard instrument tuning practices into account, it is as clear as day hearing Prince's voice on that recording - again at least on the Youtube videos I heard and the audio link I obtained

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Marrk said:

t's fine as is.

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[Edited 9/10/23 14:14pm]

It is fine as is, if one is unbothered with the tape speed not running where it most likely should, taking into account this is a live performance and all the instruments are most likely tuned originally adhereing to A=440hz

Bootleged audio likely sourced from tape-to-digital transfers can definitely be off-speed before in the bootleg circut lol. Hell even the Utrect show in the SOTT concert was off-speed and ran a tad slow and that is an official release (they seemingly corrected it on streaming services at least)

Really with all this I just wanted to try and help others get the most natural sounding version of this cool new leak

[Edited 9/10/23 14:55pm]

redacted.

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Ramzoo said:

Wow I'm speechless! Prince was so prolific. I never could expect that "Crystal Ball" would B rehearsed (same session as "U Got The Look"?).

Why not, though? CB dates to early 1986, while UGTL dates to the end of that year. This rehearsal is sometime in 1987. There's no reason to think he wouldn't still be playing around with either in 1987.

this is v cool to hear.

i had no idea this even made it to the rehearsal stage.

its obv the sott band but i wonder why theyd rehearse this when it wasnt on any album... maybe for an aftershow? or just for the hell of it.

i wasnt sure it would work that well live but its pretty good. it sounds much more like the 86 funk stuff, like girls n boys, or love n money.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

this is v cool to hear.

i had no idea this even made it to the rehearsal stage.

its obv the sott band but i wonder why theyd rehearse this when it wasnt on any album... maybe for an aftershow? or just for the hell of it.

i wasnt sure it would work that well live but its pretty good. it sounds much more like the 86 funk stuff, like girls n boys, or love n money.

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He also rehearsed it with the Revolution in 86, as documented in "Prince and The Parade and SOTT era studio sessions" book:

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Revolution81 said:

mb71 said:

Best Prince related thing I've heard in ages.

Exactly, and I think this probably will be the best thing we will get this year, imho.

Forget the whole BIG year announcement of that ''Damn & Prunes SDE.''

I am not expecting much from that SDE.

I am already far more pleased with this!

Real musicians with a heart growing with Prince's throne in era when Prince was super exciting to know and to follow.

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There are different parts from exactly 6:00 on... where the horn parts even sound like ''For Love'' from Jill Jones.

And from 6:17 it even sounds like a carribean style song. Both these parts are not in the recorded version iirc.

From 6:38 it is soooo funky! This part alone could be used to build a whole new a song...

Prince on guitar and Levi on bass duelling.

A nice Miko solo from 7:22... and from 8:15 that fat Sheila E drum solo... I mean that would be such a cool live element if they ever performed it for an audience.

This super complex song is amazing how Prince pulled it off to have all his musicians made it happen.

Great Eric and Matt horns too. The girls singing... Gosh I missed that!

Now think about a Tony M rap, or Alice Through The Looking Glass... Say what!

Great Rehearsal, great sound quality.

Thank U to the one who finally made this public.

Can we now also have the full rehearsal?

This is Awesome to hear. I love hearing the Great Funk Master Prince and the SOTT band at work!!! Your Mathematical Gas!!!!!

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WHY NOT?

When Prince tells the band "six / eight", then you know his 28th instrument is the band!!!

Love it, one of my favorite songs played live is incredible, wish we had video to go along with it. Hopefully one day, when someone competent purchases the Prince legacy, we might get a bunch of these types of gems. There has to be hundreds of them I would expect given how many great rehersal jams we have already gotten throughout the years via bootlegs.

strawberryletter23 said:

Marrk said:

t's fine as is.

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[Edited 9/10/23 14:14pm]

It is fine as is, if one is unbothered with the tape speed not running where it most likely should, taking into account this is a live performance and all the instruments are most likely tuned originally adhereing to A=440hz

Bootleged audio likely sourced from tape-to-digital transfers can definitely be off-speed before in the bootleg circut lol. Hell even the Utrect show in the SOTT concert was off-speed and ran a tad slow and that is an official release (they seemingly corrected it on streaming services at least)

Really with all this I just wanted to try and help others get the most natural sounding version of this cool new leak

[Edited 9/10/23 14:55pm]

Ok. I'm apologizing to you. Having followed your original 7% advice and been into audacity, you're right and I was wrong.

Marrk said:

strawberryletter23 said:

It is fine as is, if one is unbothered with the tape speed not running where it most likely should, taking into account this is a live performance and all the instruments are most likely tuned originally adhereing to A=440hz

Bootleged audio likely sourced from tape-to-digital transfers can definitely be off-speed before in the bootleg circut lol. Hell even the Utrect show in the SOTT concert was off-speed and ran a tad slow and that is an official release (they seemingly corrected it on streaming services at least)

Really with all this I just wanted to try and help others get the most natural sounding version of this cool new leak

[Edited 9/10/23 14:55pm]

Ok. I'm apologizing to you. Having followed your original 7% advice and been into audacity, you're right and I was wrong.

No worries, most importantly I just wanted to make sure more people had the oppurtinity in hearing it at what I believe to be the most accurate representation of the audio! It is a really kickass recording isn't it?

Just listened to it...amazing. They nailed it. I wish this had been on the "S.O.T.T" box set. One of my favorite jams by him.

strawberryletter23 said:

Marrk said:

Ok. I'm apologizing to you. Having followed your original 7% advice and been into audacity, you're right and I was wrong.

No worries, most importantly I just wanted to make sure more people had the oppurtinity in hearing it at what I believe to be the most accurate representation of the audio! It is a really kickass recording isn't it?

Absolutely is. Might be the best thing I've heard this year!