Cool track, more synth and drum machine driven than the sparse bass version? Maybe elements of the tracking are shared? I can't tell right now, will have to compare them tomorrow.

awesome song

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this not the one with the james brown sample? aww

yup, this version is pretty darn cool. so stripped down, but so incredibly interesting.

I heard elements of God Is Alive, Koo Koo, Dopamine Rush and other stuff. And yet,
it is only a drum (and bass?) track with some keyboards. Ultra sparse yet interesting.

this was one of the songs I cared nothing about being on the SDE and now it's one
of my surprise favs.
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[Edited 9/2/23 8:15am]

This version is like 10 different songs mixed into one. God Is Alive, Koo Koo, Scarlet Pussy, Glam Slam 91, La La La, etc. Sort of reminds me of that in the same way that Coco Boys somehow sounds like every 86' track mixed into one.

The "version 2" naming is ridiculous and illogical, as usual. Remember "Jealous Girl (Version 2)" as opposed to...? Why they can't be a little more detailed when naming these is beyond me, just denote it as what it is and not with some vague "Version 2" tag. It means nothing. Anyway, I wonder if this came first or if the other sparse but more bass-heavy hit me version came first. Great track, and both earlier versions absolutely whallop the overproduced mess that is the released version.

Yet another half-baked, poorly mixed and unfinished track. I thought they said they aren't going to release unfinished stuff. And again, no info whatsoever about the track, whether it's a mix they found on a mixdown tape or is it something they came up with... So unprofessional, it's sad.

Kares said:

Yet another half-baked, poorly mixed and unfinished track. I thought they said they aren't going to release unfinished stuff. And again, no info whatsoever about the track, whether it's a mix they found on a mixdown tape or is it something they came up with... So unprofessional, it's sad.

Who gives a shit if it's just a sketch or unfinished, these are archival releases. Though I would tend to agree that if they keep with the idea of SDE's (which they should ditch) then maybe stuff like this would be better suited for larger releases.

My point is, stop the SDE madness.

lustmealways said:

Kares said:

Yet another half-baked, poorly mixed and unfinished track. I thought they said they aren't going to release unfinished stuff. And again, no info whatsoever about the track, whether it's a mix they found on a mixdown tape or is it something they came up with... So unprofessional, it's sad.

Who gives a shit if it's just a sketch or unfinished, these are archival releases. Though I would tend to agree that if they keep with the idea of SDE's (which they should ditch) then maybe stuff like this would be better suited for larger releases.

My point is, stop the SDE madness.

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No, these are not "archival releases". A professionally done archival release would come with all available versions, demos, mixes – and full explanations about how they were found, if they had to be remixed or not, about all the creative decisions the producers had to make etc, etc.
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This is a commercial release that tries to look "archival" and professional, but the way it's done is questionable to say the least.

instead of version 1 or 2 or whatever, it would probably be better to just
have the original title and in brackets the recordingdate of that take/mix.

i don't mind works in progress, but it's weird that they don't give full dts
for the songs they include.

anyway, i'm loving this version.

as the kids say: this FUCKS!

Kares said:.

No, these are not "archival releases". A professionally done archival release would come with all available versions, demos, mixes – and full explanations about how they were found, if they had to be remixed or not, about all the creative decisions the producers had to make etc, etc.
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This is a commercial release that tries to look "archival" and professional, but the way it's done is questionable to say the least.

You know what. You're exactly right, I misspoke and agree with you completely. It isn't worth calling them archival releases as that would imply some level of study and comprehensiveness.

lustmealways said:

The "version 2" naming is ridiculous and illogical, as usual. Remember "Jealous Girl (Version 2)" as opposed to...? .

Maybe that's what was written on the tape in the vault? What would you prefer it to be called?

Where is everyone hearing this? Can't see it on Apple Music or the Prince YouTube page.

EnglishGent2 said:

Where is everyone hearing this? Can't see it on Apple Music or the Prince YouTube page.

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It is on singles vinyl collection. I hear it in low-fi from a voice-message of a friend while he was listening it on his stereo. I think someone could had shared a rip from vinly but I don't have it.

Kares said:

Yet another half-baked, poorly mixed and unfinished track. I thought they said they aren't going to release unfinished stuff. And again, no info whatsoever about the track, whether it's a mix they found on a mixdown tape or is it something they came up with... So unprofessional, it's sad.

Do we know the info isn't in the set this time?

how can we hear a sample of this ?

theyre all sold out

EnglishGent2 said:

Kares said:

Yet another half-baked, poorly mixed and unfinished track. I thought they said they aren't going to release unfinished stuff. And again, no info whatsoever about the track, whether it's a mix they found on a mixdown tape or is it something they came up with... So unprofessional, it's sad.

Do we know the info isn't in the set this time?

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Of course we don't know what info will be included in the upcoming SDE book. But relevant info should be released whenever a new vault track is released, and they already released the 7" box set and the online singles without any info.
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Also, getting photos of the original multitrack tape boxes and track allocation sheets is nice, but they don't contain any info regarding the sourcing / editing / mixing / remixing / remastering decisions made by the Estate. And in that regard, previous SDE editions weren't transparent either, so I'm not optimistic about the D&P box either – especially since the songs released so far are alarmingly worse mixes than the previous releases were.

Kares said:

EnglishGent2 said:

Do we know the info isn't in the set this time?

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Of course we don't know what info will be included in the upcoming SDE book. But relevant info should be released whenever a new vault track is released, and they already released the 7" box set and the online singles without any info.
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Also, getting photos of the original multitrack tape boxes and track allocation sheets is nice, but they don't contain any info regarding the sourcing / editing / mixing / remixing / remastering decisions made by the Estate. And in that regard, previous SDE editions weren't transparent either, so I'm not optimistic about the D&P box either – especially since the songs released so far are alarmingly worse mixes than the previous releases were.

Where did you get the pic as I didn't see in the official site? I suppose that it is a screenshot of the promotional video.

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Kares said:

And in that regard, previous SDE editions weren't transparent either, so I'm not optimistic about the D&P box either – especially since the songs released so far are alarmingly worse mixes than the previous releases were.

I'm fine with the mix they did on Alice & Insatiable is obviously from a mixdown (and cut at 16 Khz) so it is what it is.

Was not a fan of Niko Bolas anyway, I won't miss him.

Though, i agree that a little bit more info on the work done would be appreciated.

Ramzoo said:

Where did you get the pic as I didn't see in the official site? I suppose that it is a screenshot of the promotional video.

[Edited 9/4/23 6:05am]

Yep, I screen grabbed it from the promo.