independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Celebration Vault Tracks
« Previous topic  Next topic »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 08/28/23 6:24am

ShellyMcG

Celebration Vault Tracks

Does anyone know what's happening with these songs that were played at the Prince Celebration thing a few months back? They released the alternate version of 7 and that All A Share Together Now but what are they doing with the rest? There was some really interesting looking stuff amongst those that I don't see getting included on any Super Deluxe Edition.

I know that with the Diamonds & Pearls set coming in October they're unlikely to release any more vault tracks between now and then. So that begs the question, what's going on with those other songs they played? Is there anyone we could ask who might actually answer?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 08/28/23 6:49am

LILpoundCAKE

I'm curious about this, too nod

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 08/28/23 6:53am

fredmagnus

I would say those Vault tracks will be part of the first Vault Series along with 7 Remix & All A Share Together Now.

My guess is that this Vault Series Vol.1 will be the next box set probably scheduled for release in the spring of 2024.

Let's if i'm right biggrin

[Edited 8/28/23 6:54am]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 08/28/23 7:19am

JorisE73

fredmagnus said:

I would say those Vault tracks will be part of the first Vault Series along with 7 Remix & All A Share Together Now.

My guess is that this Vault Series Vol.1 will be the next box set probably scheduled for release in the spring of 2024.

Let's if i'm right biggrin

[Edited 8/28/23 6:54am]



I'm really not loving the idee for thrown together vault tracks in some 'Vault series' I'd rather have them presented chronological in a vault series.
I think in 2024 they'll market and push Purple Rain 40 as much as possible so I don't think they'll release anything in 2024 besides that. Maybe a Purple Rain single or era release for RSD to but that's about it.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 08/28/23 12:23pm

ShellyMcG

fredmagnus said:

I would say those Vault tracks will be part of the first Vault Series along with 7 Remix & All A Share Together Now.



My guess is that this Vault Series Vol.1 will be the next box set probably scheduled for release in the spring of 2024.



Let's if i'm right biggrin

[Edited 8/28/23 6:54am]



I hope you are right
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 08/28/23 12:33pm

ShellyMcG

JorisE73 said:



fredmagnus said:


I would say those Vault tracks will be part of the first Vault Series along with 7 Remix & All A Share Together Now.



My guess is that this Vault Series Vol.1 will be the next box set probably scheduled for release in the spring of 2024.



Let's if i'm right biggrin


[Edited 8/28/23 6:54am]





I'm really not loving the idee for thrown together vault tracks in some 'Vault series' I'd rather have them presented chronological in a vault series.
I think in 2024 they'll market and push Purple Rain 40 as much as possible so I don't think they'll release anything in 2024 besides that. Maybe a Purple Rain single or era release for RSD to but that's about it.



I can see where you and others would have a problem with this. However, I actually think it's a good idea for a potential Vault Series to pull from different eras. And I'll tell you why;

Not all Prince albums will get the Super Deluxe treatment. So outtakes from those albums should account for the bulk of the Vault Series. But seeing as most of those outtakes would likely be from newer albums, with the older albums more likely to get Super Deluxe Editions, then that would limit the potential sales/interest of the Series by alienating a lot of casual and old school fans who are only interested in his 80s stuff. By peppering a few 80s outtakes that don't make the cut in the deluxe editions (like Lust U Always or Xtraloveable) amongst the more modern tracks, it ensures that each Volume would have something that would appeal to everyone.

Is it the ideal way of selling a Vault Series? No. Your chronological order idea makes more sense to someone who plans on buying it all. But a scattergun approach like mixing eras and genres might make more business sense because pretty much every Prince fan will have at least a couple of songs on each Volume that they really want.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 08/28/23 12:53pm

lustmealways

avatar

in theory i'm not opposed to this as long as #1 all songs are provided with context and well written liner notes and #2 at some point in the future, they are included in an actual set for whatever era they came from.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 08/28/23 1:22pm

LOSTPASSWORDMA
N

I just want to hear as much of the vault as possible before I die (hopefully not for a few decades yet!), so as much as I understand that Prince's music should be curated and released in a coherent way - I also just wanna hear da funk asap!

[Edited 8/28/23 13:23pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 08/28/23 1:33pm

happyshopper

I’d assume there’s no real plan for those tracks. They were just showing off some nice tracks they’d found.
Hopefully they’ll turn up on SDEs, or other releases in the future.
I’d also assume Warner and Sony would also be involved.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 08/28/23 4:08pm

lurker316

avatar

lustmealways said:

in theory i'm not opposed to this as long as #1 all songs are provided with context and well written liner notes and #2 at some point in the future, they are included in an actual set for whatever era they came from.


Co-sign.


  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 08/28/23 6:04pm

WhisperingDand
elions

avatar

ShellyMcG said:

I can see where you and others would have a problem with this. However, I actually think it's a good idea for a potential Vault Series to pull from different eras. And I'll tell you why; Not all Prince albums will get the Super Deluxe treatment. So outtakes from those albums should account for the bulk of the Vault Series. But seeing as most of those outtakes would likely be from newer albums, with the older albums more likely to get Super Deluxe Editions, then that would limit the potential sales/interest of the Series by alienating a lot of casual and old school fans who are only interested in his 80s stuff. By peppering a few 80s outtakes that don't make the cut in the deluxe editions (like Lust U Always or Xtraloveable) amongst the more modern tracks, it ensures that each Volume would have something that would appeal to everyone. Is it the ideal way of selling a Vault Series? No. Your chronological order idea makes more sense to someone who plans on buying it all. But a scattergun approach like mixing eras and genres might make more business sense because pretty much every Prince fan will have at least a couple of songs on each Volume that they really want.

This is honestly the best-case scenario what you wrote here.

I mean, look, as much as the hardcore super academic fans would prefer proper chronological sequence and boxes, they've already shown they dgaf about that and are only going to release SDE's for the "big sellers" based on the most accurate sales data from 1991 for our pop star hero... the Prince of pop, if you will.

And that's why yours is the best-case, but I srsly doubt they'd ever even do your hypothetical, much less SDE's for the mid-to-late-90s/00s/10s.


I kind of like, don't want to burst everyone's fantasy bubble here... but this "Vault Series Vol. 1". You got it already. It was the two tracks. And just because it was released with "Vol. 1" in the title doesn't mean anything, it's like when bands release compilations or albums with "Vol. 1" in the title and never follow-up. It's just a title. There's no planned box, there's no planned Vol. 2, there's no expansion of Vol. 1. That was "Vault Series". Enjoy.

[Edited 8/28/23 18:04pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 08/28/23 6:08pm

lustmealways

avatar

WhisperingDandelions said:

I kind of like, don't want to burst everyone's fantasy bubble here... but this "Vault Series Vol. 1". You got it already. It was the two tracks. And just because it was released with "Vol. 1" in the title doesn't mean anything, it's like when bands release compilations or albums with "Vol. 1" in the title and never follow-up. It's just a title. There's no planned box, there's no planned Vol. 2, there's no expansion of Vol. 1. That was "Vault Series". Enjoy.

[Edited 8/28/23 18:04pm]

LOL. you always give us the straight dope in a funny way and i appreciate it. you're probably right.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 08/28/23 11:20pm

Vannormal

Why is "All A Share Together Now" not written in Prince style like "2gether"...

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 08/28/23 11:26pm

themanfromnept
une

Vannormal said:

Why is "All A Share Together Now" not written in Prince style like "2gether"...

.

I hope they take the titles from the namefile or what is written on tape

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 08/29/23 12:56am

Vannormal

themanfromneptune said:

Vannormal said:

Why is "All A Share Together Now" not written in Prince style like "2gether"...

.

I hope they take the titles from the namefile or what is written on tape

That could be written by anyone, meaning; engineers...

What did Prince wrote on the lyric sheet, i think that is far more accurate, no?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Celebration Vault Tracks