Well, this is still a cute version.

I never heard the first words ("R U horny?") on the version previously available to us. Nice.

this has always been one of the most overrated outtakes - it's fine but the album version kills it. just my opinion, he made the right choice.

I think he's saying "are we recording?".

not 100% sure yet, but i might like it better than the album version.
i like it how lonely he sounds here, and on the album version you can see/feel/hear the whole band. I guess that's the reason he chose that version - more suitable for his new bands album. (yes, ofc, it could be demo/work in progress version)

Farfunknugin said:

lustmealways said:

lustmealways said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:

I'm really familiar with it and already had a great sounding version of it. Therefore this offical release doesn't excite me. I remember it being the highlight for me from when the beginnings set leaked. A great song and a great version. [Edited 8/24/23 23:03pm]

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Imagine discovering the 33 studio outtakes from the D&P SDE in 2023, never having heard them on bootlegs before.

Yay! New music is always appreciated in this quarter

I like it. Yeah, I miss that scream...but still very good.

siim said:

not 100% sure yet, but i might like it better than the album version.
i like it how lonely he sounds here, and on the album version you can see/feel/hear the whole band. I guess that's the reason he chose that version - more suitable for his new bands album. (yes, ofc, it could be demo/work in progress version)

I have long loved this version better...always tend to like when he uses the basics...piano, bass, guitar drums....there is piano on here that was not in the released version.

I have always loved his doodling on piano on this song...

btw, this sounded really good on YouTube...the estate continues to take seriously the sound quality. It tells me they are putting quality first. No one talks about sound quality...

We know this one was about Kim Bassinger, right?

olb99 said:

MIRvmn1 said:

This early mix is far better than the album version

Agree, except for that scream he added to the album vers.

lustmealways said:

JoeyCococo said:

btw, this sounded really good on YouTube...the estate continues to take seriously the sound quality. It tells me they are putting quality first. No one talks about sound quality...

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Actually, we can start talking about sound quality – in fact I already started, but of course it's far too easy to just disregard anything I say as "there are folks who are never happy, here they are again, already complaining"...
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I'm sorry but I happen to know a little bit on the subject I'm talking about – and while I'm thrilled and happy to see the tracklist with all those vault songs of the new SDE, I'm genuinely worried about what we can expect sound quality wise.

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Is this really "The Real Good Sound" Sharon promised us?...
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After the fiasco of 'All A Share Together Now' being released in mono (and even more annoyingly, fading out the guitar solo!), now we got 'Insatiable' that certainly does sound like it was sourced from a freakin' mp3 (I've literally no idea how something like that can even happen, as it's not a cassette copy, so they must have the half inch master for it!), and 'Alice Through The Looking Glass' is a downright horrible and amateur mix that I will have to reprocess for my own use just so I can listen to it...
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Things do not look very promising, my friends.

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[Edited 8/26/23 0:56am]

I never loved the album version, I love this one a lot.

JoeyCococo said:

btw, this sounded really good on YouTube...the estate continues to take seriously the sound quality. It tells me they are putting quality first. No one talks about sound quality...

It's ok, to bad they didn't use a lossless source tho. The bootleg version has a higher bitrate i think.

Kares said:

JoeyCococo said:

btw, this sounded really good on YouTube...the estate continues to take seriously the sound quality. It tells me they are putting quality first. No one talks about sound quality...

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Actually, we can start talking about sound quality – in fact I already started, but of course it's far too easy to just disregard anything I say as "there are folks who are never happy, here they are again, already complaining"...
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I'm sorry but I happen to know a little bit on the subject I'm talking about – and while I'm thrilled and happy to see the tracklist with all those vault songs of the new SDE, I'm genuinely worried about what we can expect sound quality wise.

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Is this really "The Real Good Sound" Sharon promised us?...
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After the fiasco of 'All A Share Together Now' being released in mono (and even more annoyingly, fading out the guitar solo!), now we got 'Insatiable' that certainly does sound like it was sourced from a freakin' mp3 (I've literally no idea how something like that can even happen, as it's not a cassette copy, so they must have the half inch master for it!), and 'Alice Through The Looking Glass' is a downright horrible and amateur mix that I will have to reprocess for my own use just so I can listen to it...
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Things do not look very promising, my friends.

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[Edited 8/26/23 0:56am]

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Kares: I've asked the question on Discord, but I'll ask it again here. Could the 16 kHz cutoff be explained by the use of a DAT in 32 kHz mode (since DAT can be used with sampling rates of 32/44.1/48 kHz)? We know from Scottie and others that Prince used DAT a lot (unfortunately).

JorisE73 said:

JoeyCococo said:

btw, this sounded really good on YouTube...the estate continues to take seriously the sound quality. It tells me they are putting quality first. No one talks about sound quality...

It's ok, to bad they didn't use a lossless source tho. The bootleg version has a higher bitrate i think.

... it's a transcode?

They did it again?

"Velvet Kiitty Cat" all over again, pressing literal MP3s to disc and serving 'em up to fans for $350.00 a pop?

Kares said:

JoeyCococo said:

btw, this sounded really good on YouTube...the estate continues to take seriously the sound quality. It tells me they are putting quality first. No one talks about sound quality...

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Actually, we can start talking about sound quality – in fact I already started, but of course it's far too easy to just disregard anything I say as "there are folks who are never happy, here they are again, already complaining"...
.
I'm sorry but I happen to know a little bit on the subject I'm talking about – and while I'm thrilled and happy to see the tracklist with all those vault songs of the new SDE, I'm genuinely worried about what we can expect sound quality wise.

.

Is this really "The Real Good Sound" Sharon promised us?...
.
After the fiasco of 'All A Share Together Now' being released in mono (and even more annoyingly, fading out the guitar solo!), now we got 'Insatiable' that certainly does sound like it was sourced from a freakin' mp3 (I've literally no idea how something like that can even happen, as it's not a cassette copy, so they must have the half inch master for it!), and 'Alice Through The Looking Glass' is a downright horrible and amateur mix that I will have to reprocess for my own use just so I can listen to it...
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Things do not look very promising, my friends.

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[Edited 8/26/23 0:56am]

Preach.

The famz keep getting The Golden Shower Experience from the Estate and treating it gold bullion time after time.

Same people complimenting their "pristine" MP3 transcodes are the same ones pining desperately for "sorely needed remasters".

Allz I have to say is: Y should I do that.... when eye can do this?

olb99 said:

Kares said:

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Actually, we can start talking about sound quality – in fact I already started, but of course it's far too easy to just disregard anything I say as "there are folks who are never happy, here they are again, already complaining"...
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I'm sorry but I happen to know a little bit on the subject I'm talking about – and while I'm thrilled and happy to see the tracklist with all those vault songs of the new SDE, I'm genuinely worried about what we can expect sound quality wise.

.

Is this really "The Real Good Sound" Sharon promised us?...
.
After the fiasco of 'All A Share Together Now' being released in mono (and even more annoyingly, fading out the guitar solo!), now we got 'Insatiable' that certainly does sound like it was sourced from a freakin' mp3 (I've literally no idea how something like that can even happen, as it's not a cassette copy, so they must have the half inch master for it!), and 'Alice Through The Looking Glass' is a downright horrible and amateur mix that I will have to reprocess for my own use just so I can listen to it...
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Things do not look very promising, my friends.

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[Edited 8/26/23 0:56am]

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Kares: I've asked the question on Discord, but I'll ask it again here. Could the 16 kHz cutoff be explained by the use of a DAT in 32 kHz mode (since DAT can be used with sampling rates of 32/44.1/48 kHz)? We know from Scottie and others that Prince used DAT a lot (unfortunately).

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DAT's popularity in the '90s is really a pain in the butt as the format has so many issues, indeed! It wasn't even designed as a professional format (S-DAT was) but it was cheap and convenient so a lot of studios jumped on it, unfortunately.
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Anyway, recording in 32kHz mode can indeed result in a restricted frequency response. But according to an old list I have with Paisley's equipment, P had Sony PCM-7030 and Panasonic SV-3700 DATs – neither of them capable of 32kHz mode.
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But why on earth would he do a MIXDOWN to a 32kHz DAT? (unless accidentally). The price of DAT cassettes really couldn't have been an issue to him – they were already far cheaper than half inch analog tapes.

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I'm really baffled at this Insatiable master. It's not only limited at 16K (as mp3s are), it also sounds like it really is an mp3. I just don't know what to say...

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[Edited 8/26/23 6:48am]