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Thread started 08/17/23 12:47pm

Mackopolis44

Pick 3 songs you dislike

Okay, here's the rules;

1.Pick 3 Prince songs you don't like.

2.Give reasons why.

3.Try to convince others why they should actually like them!

Here's my 3;

1.Graffiti Bridge. To me it sounds like a song for an 'off Broadway/West End' production. Really cheesy and corny.

2.Paisley Park. I think he sounds bored and the writing is dull, both lyrically and musically. Prince treading water.

3.Jughead. A basic 'woo look at me, I can rap too' mess. Musically boring and lyrically nonsensical.
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Reply #1 posted 08/17/23 1:02pm

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1. "Come" (the album version... I love the Glam Slam Ulysses version). I think it's the most bland, generic R&B I've ever heard.

2. "Animal Kingdom". Too sappy and preachy.

3. "Poom Poom". I don't know where to begin...

If we could list more than three, I'd name at least 15 songs from Emancipation. Most of the songs on that album have simplisitic, lame, flat, plastic production.

Just missing this list are "High", "Acknowledge Me", and a few songs from Rave Unto the Joy Fanastic.



[Edited 8/17/23 6:05am]

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Reply #2 posted 08/17/23 1:21pm

LILpoundCAKE

Planet Earth.

I like almost everything from 2006/2009. Especially all those 3121/Lotusflower type songs.
But the "could it be magic" bridge is just too much of a rip off for me to enjoy this song.


Life Of The Party.

I really don't like the released version. It's a song I just don't care about at all. And yet,
the bit of the demo that surfaced lately makes it clear that even songs you think are shitty,
can be pretty neat in a different mix/version.



Do Me Baby.

Blasphemy, probably. I just don't like it. Never have. The demo of it that was released was
the first time in 35+ years that I was able to sit through this song more than once in a single
sitting. The demo is 'ok'.


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Reply #3 posted 08/17/23 1:39pm

Mackopolis44

lurker316 said:



1. "Come" (the album version... I love the Glam Slam Ulysses version). I think it's the most bland, generic R&B I've ever heard.

2. "Animal Kingdom". Too sappy and preachy.


3. "Poom Poom". I don't know where to begin...

If we could list more than three, I'd name at least 15 songs from Emancipation. Most of the songs on that album have simplisitic, lame, flat, plastic production.

Just missing this list are "High", "Acknowledge Me", and a few songs from Rave Unto the Joy Fanastic.



[Edited 8/17/23 6:05am]


Wow, I like the others but I've never been a fan of Poom Poom. I've always thought that 'Come' had a great horn section and it is a relaxed cool track.
Animal Kingdom, whereas it's not a standout track, I've never really minded and I think it's an important message. I am vegan though 🤣😂🤣

Great comments, cheers 🍻
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Reply #4 posted 08/17/23 1:45pm

Mackopolis44

LILpoundCAKE said:

Planet Earth.

I like almost everything from 2006/2009. Especially all those 3121/Lotusflower type songs.
But the "could it be magic" bridge is just too much of a rip off for me to enjoy this song.


Life Of The Party.

I really don't like the released version. It's a song I just don't care about at all. And yet,
the bit of the demo that surfaced lately makes it clear that even songs you think are shitty,
can be pretty neat in a different mix/version.






Do Me Baby.

Blasphemy, probably. I just don't like it. Never have. The demo of it that was released was
the first time in 35+ years that I was able to sit through this song more than once in a single
sitting. The demo is 'ok'.



Life o the Party is one of those songs I don't mind but I've never been drawn to.

Do Me, Baby has been around so long that it's grown on me (like fungus?) However, I do remember a time when I would have agreed with you!

Planet Earth, I love it! But now I'll hear Barry Manilow 😱 I'd never compared those 2 songs but I see what you mean 😏

Great comments 👌
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Reply #5 posted 08/17/23 2:33pm

bozojones

  1. Free - As I've said elsewhere recently, this is one of Prince's most cloying and uninteresting ballads of the 80s. It sounds like a proto version of "God Bless The USA" or one of those other patriotic circlejerk tracks from that decade, and it brings the energy of the 1999 album to a screeching halt.
  2. The Ladder - I'm not a religious or spiritual person but I can absolutely respect a spiritual message so long as it's put to music that kicks ass. This is not one of those instances. Everything about this feels like a plodding Sunday School followup to "Purple Rain" but without even a fraction of the passion or electricity of that iconic ballad.
  3. Hot Thing - Coming from a different angle with this one. "Hot Thing" has plenty of spunk and energy, and in theory I should like it, but it just never connected with me. The way he drawls "Hot thaaang" irritates me, as do the shrill lead synth lines. Not the strongest of Prince's 86-87 funk jams.
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Reply #6 posted 08/17/23 3:35pm

Steelclawz

1. Shhh - its just too over the top loud .. i would love to hear a quiet version, very stripped down

2. Guiitar - so plain it bores me

3. funk n roll - i just cant sit through a listen, grates on me

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Reply #7 posted 08/17/23 3:59pm

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1. Rainbow Children

Even though I'm a former JW this track makes me wanna puke. The music is cool but the lyrics ruin it (same goes for most of TRC album)

2. Tick Tick Bang

The lyrics are wack and the song doesn't groove for me

3. Sister

Dirty Mind is a masterpiece but this song is just an attempt at shock value. It isn't clever or subtle enough so it's just cringe. I would rather have "Gotta Stop (Mession' About)" replace this track on the album.

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Reply #8 posted 08/17/23 4:42pm

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Since things like "Jughead" are a given, I won't list it. It's not even in my D&P playlist anyway. Never has been. For me, I'm also not touching anything from The Rainbow Children onward because it's only 3 slots.

Also there are songs I tolerate that aren't favorites. But I don't skip them, like "The Ladder."

Arrogance - it's loud, tactless, and wholly unnecessary. This isn't on my playlist either.

Graffiti Bridge - it goes beyond schmaltz. It's just fucking horrible.

Shy - I've never had this in my playlist. In fact, I had resegued the sounds in between "319" and "Billy Jack Bitch" so there is an effortless flow. I honestly never think about the song at all.

Dishonorbable mention:

Life Can Be So Nice - I'm sure this is blasphemy since Parade is such a favorite. Frankly, it's one of favorite albums (which is why I always hope for Parade SDE over D&P SDE next). This is only slightly less horrible than "Arrogance." It's a hodge podge of mess, crap, and shit. When ol' boy starts singing, "...scrambled eggs, so boring..." I'm out. I'm 50/50 whether I skip it or not. Frankly, "Alexa De Paris" would fit better in there.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #9 posted 08/17/23 4:42pm

TrivialPursuit

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I'm waiting on Fenwick to show up with "Free" on his list.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #10 posted 08/17/23 5:24pm

Fenwick

Ha!

Trivial and I had a similar discussion about a week ago

I am going to restrict myself to the dirty mind through lovesexy timeframe as after that, there’s just far too many…

The only two songs in the catalog from that era I absolutely detest are Free and Slow Love. (Pretty remarkable when you think about how many songs were made).

Free sounds like Alan Jackson could have written it. Or the guy who wrote god bless the USA. Not good…..

I think the Slow love 45 came readily equipped with a “hows the veal” bib.


There are no other songs I detest. But Hot Thing, The Ladder or It are very worthy of consideration.

I would probably pick The Ladder as number 3……
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Reply #11 posted 08/17/23 5:29pm

Fenwick

bozojones said:


  1. Free - As I've said elsewhere recently, this is one of Prince's most cloying and uninteresting ballads of the 80s. It sounds like a proto version of "God Bless The USA" or one of those other patriotic circlejerk tracks from that decade, and it brings the energy of the 1999 album to a screeching halt.

  2. The Ladder - I'm not a religious or spiritual person but I can absolutely respect a spiritual message so long as it's put to music that kicks ass. This is not one of those instances. Everything about this feels like a plodding Sunday School followup to "Purple Rain" but without even a fraction of the passion or electricity of that iconic ballad.

  3. Hot Thing - Coming from a different angle with this one. "Hot Thing" has plenty of spunk and energy, and in theory I should like it, but it just never connected with me. The way he drawls "Hot thaaang" irritates me, as do the shrill lead synth lines. Not the strongest of Prince's 86-87 funk jams.



Whoah! We both made the god bless the USA connection!!!!
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Reply #12 posted 08/17/23 5:36pm

TrivialPursuit

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Fenwick said:

bozojones said:
  1. Free - As I've said elsewhere recently, this is one of Prince's most cloying and uninteresting ballads of the 80s. It sounds like a proto version of "God Bless The USA" or one of those other patriotic circlejerk tracks from that decade, and it brings the energy of the 1999 album to a screeching halt.
  2. The Ladder - I'm not a religious or spiritual person but I can absolutely respect a spiritual message so long as it's put to music that kicks ass. This is not one of those instances. Everything about this feels like a plodding Sunday School followup to "Purple Rain" but without even a fraction of the passion or electricity of that iconic ballad.
  3. Hot Thing - Coming from a different angle with this one. "Hot Thing" has plenty of spunk and energy, and in theory I should like it, but it just never connected with me. The way he drawls "Hot thaaang" irritates me, as do the shrill lead synth lines. Not the strongest of Prince's 86-87 funk jams.
Whoah! We both made the god bless the USA connection!!!!


Y'all are weirdos. LOL I actually never saw "Free" as a patriotic song. It felt more gospel-inspired of course. I know there are lines about soldiers and laws, but it still never rang that way for me.

Aside from that bridge, it's rather ambiguous. Is the "lonely monster" the monster of loneliness, or is the situation a monster because the loneliness is part of it? "Dis tew much!"

For me, it's more a song like "Uptown," where no matter what's going on around you, just be you and do what you want without hurting anyone else. Despite Prince's forays into politics, he always came across as an anarchist. Little to no faith in gov't, and he always had a more self-governing attitude. "Free" is one of those, to me.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #13 posted 08/17/23 6:15pm

RJOrion

"Moonbeam Levels" - i hate the awkward chord progressions...i hate the lyrics... the song is rhythmless, soulless, joyless, and funkless..and its devoid of any catchiness or replay value...Prince was wise not to release it.

"Thunder"- when the album first came out, i liked this song...somewhere in time i began to hate this song...and im not sure why...i just cant stand it anymore.

"Orgasm" - a complete waste of time and sound...irritating guitar soloing and Vanity's contrived sounding sex noises...P shouldve buried this one under the vault
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Reply #14 posted 08/17/23 6:18pm

RJOrion

lurker316 said:



1. "Come" (the album version... I love the Glam Slam Ulysses version). I think it's the most bland, generic R&B I've ever heard.

2. "Animal Kingdom". Too sappy and preachy.


3. "Poom Poom". I don't know where to begin...

If we could list more than three, I'd name at least 15 songs from Emancipation. Most of the songs on that album have simplisitic, lame, flat, plastic production.

Just missing this list are "High", "Acknowledge Me", and a few songs from Rave Unto the Joy Fanastic.



[Edited 8/17/23 6:05am]



The last 2:10 of the album version of "Come" is one of the greatest moments in recorded music history... i get emotional when i hear that shit
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Reply #15 posted 08/17/23 6:53pm

bozojones

TrivialPursuit said:

Fenwick said:

bozojones said: Whoah! We both made the god bless the USA connection!!!!


Y'all are weirdos. LOL I actually never saw "Free" as a patriotic song. It felt more gospel-inspired of course. I know there are lines about soldiers and laws, but it still never rang that way for me.

Aside from that bridge, it's rather ambiguous. Is the "lonely monster" the monster of loneliness, or is the situation a monster because the loneliness is part of it? "Dis tew much!"

For me, it's more a song like "Uptown," where no matter what's going on around you, just be you and do what you want without hurting anyone else. Despite Prince's forays into politics, he always came across as an anarchist. Little to no faith in gov't, and he always had a more self-governing attitude. "Free" is one of those, to me.

There's nothing explicitly "rah rah America" about the song, but there are definitely undertones there with the whole "be glad that you are free" thing. Actually, you know what this song reminds me of that I couldn't quite place before? It sounds like a musical number written for elementary kids to perform onstage lol

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Reply #16 posted 08/17/23 7:02pm

SoulAlive

*"Temptation"----Never liked it.The "conversation" with God is downright creepy and ridiculous.

*"Hot Thing"----I think this song is beneath Prince.The lyrics are too 'simple' and uninteresting....."hot thing.....barely 21....hot thing....looking for big fun"......really?! It's a lazy track.

*"I Rock,Therefore I Am"-----terrible,just terrible.

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Reply #17 posted 08/17/23 7:21pm

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RJOrion said:

"Moonbeam Levels" - i hate the awkward chord progressions...i hate the lyrics... the song is rhythmless, soulless, joyless, and funkless..and its devoid of any catchiness or replay value...Prince was wise not to release it. "Thunder"- when the album first came out, i liked this song...somewhere in time i began to hate this song...and im not sure why...i just cant stand it anymore. "Orgasm" - a complete waste of time and sound...irritating guitar soloing and Vanity's contrived sounding sex noises...P shouldve buried this one under the vault


Fuck you about "Moonbeam Levels." LOL

"Thunder" is so tinny and shitty. It's that high-pitched fake organ sound he uses on that song and stuff like "Daddy Pop" for the main hooks. It sounds cheap, which always gave D&P a cheap feel to me.

I don't know if "Orgasm" is even an actual song. It's just... noise?

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #18 posted 08/17/23 7:46pm

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I'm shocked nobody has mentioned "Purple And Gold" yet.

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Reply #19 posted 08/17/23 7:58pm

BlueShakooo

Sweet Baby - pure kitsch
Man'O'War - hurts my ears
Prettyman - pseudo-funky + pseudo-funny
[Edited 8/17/23 13:02pm]
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Reply #20 posted 08/17/23 8:28pm

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Mackopolis44 said:

Okay, here's the rules;
1.Pick 3 Prince songs you don't like.
2.Give reasons why.
3.Try to convince others why they should actually like them!

OK, i'll just try with ONE SONG...

ahem...

1. "A Million Days"

2. The messy production and shitty bridge! Plus the childish "onehundredthousandmilliondays" lyric!

3. It has the classic Prince scream at the end

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #21 posted 08/17/23 8:29pm

TrivialPursuit

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olb99 said:

I'm shocked nobody has mentioned "Purple And Gold" yet.


Fight Club rules apply.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #22 posted 08/17/23 8:39pm

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Hypnoparadise - The only song I ever skipped when I was initially going through Prince's albums. I find it incredibly annoying and haven't returned to it in the years since. I could put the whole Slaughterhouse album here tbh

Animal Kingdom - Annoying vocal effects and just an overall preachy feel to it that turns me off of a message that I otherwise feel has some merit to it.

Everybody Loves Me - I never really got behind the music of 20Ten where I felt like Prince was in full "remember the 80's?" mode and this song is no exception. Obnoxious, over the top synths that not only feel completely out of place for the 2010 music scene but also not even somewhat catchy like a few other songs off 20Ten. I'm just glad Laydown was the hidden closing track instead.

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Reply #23 posted 08/17/23 8:59pm

FrankieCoco1

I’m sticking to peak 80’s, as before he was just learning and after his magic fairy dust was waning somewhat, so obviously some clunkers (albeit some classics too). Well, here’s my 3:

Baby I’m A Star - overblown, self-proclamation of greatness nonsense that sounds like something used for a sub-par talent show.

Pop Life (Fresh Dance Mix & Extended Version) - the album/single version is fine, but if ever a song didn’t need a remix this is it. I even skip them in my own extended versions album on my music player.

It’s Gonna Be A Beautiful Night - what a piss poor farewell song for The Revolution, maybe it was intentional, especially Sheila’s rap.

By the way, I think this is one of the most entertaining recent threads, given the recent famine of releases. It’s useful to appreciate that fans don’t always agree, one person’s poison is another’s champagne, and all that.
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #24 posted 08/17/23 11:20pm

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...is #3 a typo? Did you mean convince people why it sucks or...?

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Reply #25 posted 08/17/23 11:22pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

Baby I’m A Star - overblown, self-proclamation of greatness nonsense that sounds like something used for a sub-par talent show.

BINGO.

It sort of works in the framework of a cheeseball bad 80s movie like Purple Rain but when he performs it outside the context of the movie on a national stage or on the album itself with no visual or plot narrative to precede it: pure cringe.

TrivialPursuit said:

Fenwick said:

bozojones said: Whoah! We both made the god bless the USA connection!!!!


Y'all are weirdos. LOL I actually never saw "Free" as a patriotic song. It felt more gospel-inspired of course. I know there are lines about soldiers and laws, but it still never rang that way for me.

So you take it to be about free will?

The part about "there's many-a" blah blah "who's not" makes it seem like it's about patriotism.

[Edited 8/17/23 16:24pm]

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Reply #26 posted 08/17/23 11:36pm

Mackopolis44

Guys, this is amazing!

There's so much to unpick here!

A few of my favourite tracks have even been mentioned 😱

Please remember to feel free to disagree and back up your choices with your reasoning.

I, personally, love the song Free but I get the impression that not everyone feels the same. That's fine, art is always subjective.

I might wait for more replies and make a top ten (or bottom ten)🤣😂🤣
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Reply #27 posted 08/17/23 11:47pm

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Steelclawz said:

1. Shhh - its just too over the top loud .. i would love to hear a quiet version, very stripped down

2. Guiitar - so plain it bores me

3. funk n roll - i just cant sit through a listen, grates on me


Which version of Funk n Roll? I like the Plectrum version. The AOA version is cheesy but has grown on me somewhat.



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Reply #28 posted 08/17/23 11:48pm

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Mackopolis44 said:

lurker316 said:


1. "Come" (the album version... I love the Glam Slam Ulysses version). I think it's the most bland, generic R&B I've ever heard.

2. "Animal Kingdom". Too sappy and preachy.

3. "Poom Poom". I don't know where to begin...

If we could list more than three, I'd name at least 15 songs from Emancipation. Most of the songs on that album have simplisitic, lame, flat, plastic production.

Just missing this list are "High", "Acknowledge Me", and a few songs from Rave Unto the Joy Fanastic.



[Edited 8/17/23 6:05am]

Wow, I like the others but I've never been a fan of Poom Poom. I've always thought that 'Come' had a great horn section and it is a relaxed cool track. Animal Kingdom, whereas it's not a standout track, I've never really minded and I think it's an important message. I am vegan though 🤣😂🤣 Great comments, cheers 🍻


I have no problem with veganism, but he the way he expresses the message in this song is too preachy and sappy for my tastes.



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Reply #29 posted 08/17/23 11:51pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

...is #3 a typo? Did you mean convince people why it sucks or...?


I did a double take when I saw that as well, but then I realized @nayroo2002 was the only person who actually followed instructions. If you look at the original post, it says:

"3.Try to convince others why they should actually like them!"

In other words, part of the assignment was to offer a counter-argument to your own opinion. That's actually a great mental exercise. People should try to see things from both sides.


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