paisleyparkgirl said:

Se7en said:

The Prince side of the dialogue sounded just like Prince. The MJ side, didn't sound like him at all to me, sounded like an actual woman impersonating MJ.

That's what MJ (and the entire Jackson family) sound like. Very soft, feminine voices.

I was thinking, with the way technology is headed, they don't even need actors anymore. Imagine watching an AI generated Prince biopic that captures his voice, mannerisms down to the T.

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Feminine, sure, like a staccato robot? uh no.

Everyone has different standards. If you believe that AI MJ vocal track passed muster it makes sense you'd be down with AI biopics.

To me CGI still looks rancid. Can we use AI to fix that first? I constantly marvel how the CGI in Terminator 2 (speaking of predictions of our buddy Al) still looks better than 95% of movies released over 30 years later.

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paisleyparkgirl said:

RE: The actors, I'm pretty sure it was background actors, and it was per movie. The studio wouldn't own their likeness in perpetuity. Regardless it was a fucking stupid idea. But I can see a future where YOU could be an extra in [insert movie title]. Just scan your face and you're the barman pouring a whiskey for the protagonist... Or advertising the latest herpes treatment.

There is a company who've made an entire episode of South Park using AI. https://fablestudio.githu...er-agents/ scroll down and it's there. Written and produced. (Spoiler alert, it's terrible). But it's just a proof of concept. In a couple of years TV shows could become much more personalized.

Se7en said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

That's what MJ (and the entire Jackson family) sound like. Very soft, feminine voices.

I was thinking, with the way technology is headed, they don't even need actors anymore. Imagine watching an AI generated Prince biopic that captures his voice, mannerisms down to the T.

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Well, turn on the news - there is currently a writers and actors strike . . . one of their concerns is AI.

Certain movie studios want to pay the actor ONE DAY'S PAY to scan them, record their voices, and do the rest in AI with no further payments to the actor - ever.

You saw that 'Black Mirror' episode, too?

So true and industrial!

nayroo2002 said:

Se7en said:

Well, turn on the news - there is currently a writers and actors strike . . . one of their concerns is AI.

Certain movie studios want to pay the actor ONE DAY'S PAY to scan them, record their voices, and do the rest in AI with no further payments to the actor - ever.

You saw that 'Black Mirror' episode, too?

So true and industrial!

Yep - I did! That episode goes even further and uses us (the end users)!

Ndorphinmachina said:

There is a company who've made an entire episode of South Park using AI. https://fablestudio.githu...er-agents/ scroll down and it's there. Written and produced. (Spoiler alert, it's terrible). But it's just a proof of concept. In a couple of years TV shows could become much more personalized.

That's gotta be the baseline test of AI scripts. That show is pure formula since like season 4. Throw a dart at a newspaper, have the townspeople overreact like one extreme side of the debate, have the kids as the "voice of reason" for the other extreme side of the debate, then the big climax where Kyle lectures the audience on how both sides are incorrect. Literally every episode of South Park since the movie ever. If Al can't accurately produce one of those: back to the drawing board.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Well, South Park is satire sure. Helped by the fact they can turn round an episode in a couple of weeks. Without AI. With AI they could have that down to a couple of days.

This time last year it was unthinkable that AI software could write and produce an entire episode of anything. Now it can. What it made wasn't very good, but incremental improvements are happening on a monthly, if not weekly basis.

The point I was making, is that, AI in entertainment is pointing towards much more personalized content. At some point in the next few years, you could potentially have an episode of South Park about anything YOU want. Your episode could be different to my episode.

I think the same will happen with music. Especially posthumously. Services could license artists voices. You could have any artist singing any song. It's probably further off than an animated show due to technical and legal issues. But for the estates of artists who don't have a vault of unreleased material it could be a big earner.

Ndorphinmachina said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

That's gotta be the baseline test of AI scripts. That show is pure formula since like season 4. Throw a dart at a newspaper, have the townspeople overreact like one extreme side of the debate, have the kids as the "voice of reason" for the other extreme side of the debate, then the big climax where Kyle lectures the audience on how both sides are incorrect. Literally every episode of South Park since the movie ever. If Al can't accurately produce one of those: back to the drawing board.

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Well, South Park is satire sure. Helped by the fact they can turn round an episode in a couple of weeks. Without AI. With AI they could have that down to a couple of days. This time last year it was unthinkable that AI software could write and produce an entire episode of anything. Now it can. What it made wasn't very good, but incremental improvements are happening on a monthly, if not weekly basis. The point I was making, is that, AI in entertainment is pointing towards much more personalized content. At some point in the next few years, you could potentially have an episode of South Park about anything YOU want. Your episode could be different to my episode. I think the same will happen with music. Especially posthumously. Services could license artists voices. You could have any artist singing any song. It's probably further off than an animated show due to technical and legal issues. But for the estates of artists who don't have a vault of unreleased material it could be a big earner.

South Park already has it down to a mere 6 days production per episode for many, many years now. They made a documentary about it years ago: 6 Days to Air. It doesn't take weeks.

Anyway, I'm not arguing your point about thereoticals. All you Al stans only focus on the sunshine and lollipops.

What about James Cameron's point from 30 years ago? If Al's that advanced where it's pumping out quality scripts wouldn't advancement persist in all facets of Al?

https://people.com/james-...ou-7563101

James Cameron on Dangers of Al 40 Years After 'Terminator': 'I Warned You Guys...and You Didn't Listen'

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WhisperingDandelions said:

Ok. So then my point stands but with an even shorter timescale.



I wasn't aware we were arguing? But ok. Let's not talk about hypotheticals... Well, until this next bit where you do a 180 and decide you want to talk about hypothetical advances in AI...



There are different types of AI. Facial recognition has been around for ages. It didn't immediately lead to Large Language Models like GPT.

We are nowhere near artificial general intelligence. Even if we were it seems unlikely humanity would cede control of governments to it. As for his point about wars. Is he saying he'd prefer people were sent off to die rather than machines?

Is your point here that AI = Bad because Terminator?
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