bozojones said:

lurker316 said:

No, they're two sides of the same coin. They're two insane cults trying to force their concept of morality on people and using their power to do so.

Nah, one side is far more militant and looking to do far more harm than the other, and it's not the left. Believe what you want to believe though.

Word. But it's pointless to argue with this kind of "both-sides are crazy" moral equivication, where those arguing for civil rights, on the one hand, and literal Nazis on the other, are subject to the same kind of reactionary centrism. People feel "smart" for keeping out of the fight, staying "above the fray," etc., even as their own liberties and those of others get slowly whittled away. People literally cheer when wingnuts like Moms for Liberty quote Hitler as a positive influence on children, but lose their shit when a drag queen reads kids a book.

But more to the point, we've had literally zero evidence that Netflix is trying to "cancel" or "MeToo" Prince, but that hasn't stopped the pearl-clutchers from melting down over the (incredibly unlikely) possibility. It's all "my friend's cousin saw someone say something mean about Prince on Facebook."

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paisleyparkgirl said:

nayroo2002 said:

dustoff said:

bozojones said:

Nah, one side is far more militant and looking to do far more harm than the other, and it's not the left. Believe what you want to believe though.

Word. But it's pointless to argue with this kind of "both-sides are crazy" moral equivication, where those arguing for civil rights, on the one hand, and literal Nazis on the other, are subject to the same kind of reactionary centrism. People feel "smart" for keeping out of the fight, staying "above the fray," etc., even as their own liberties and those of others get slowly whittled away. People literally cheer when wingnuts like Moms for Liberty quote Hitler as a positive influence on children, but lose their shit when a drag queen reads kids a book.

But more to the point, we've had literally zero evidence that Netflix is trying to "cancel" or "MeToo" Prince, but that hasn't stopped the pearl-clutchers from melting down over the (incredibly unlikely) possibility. It's all "my friend's cousin saw someone say something mean about Prince on Facebook."

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Well said

dustoff said:

Chances are, the whole "cancel this cancel that" argument has to do more specifically with ONLINE CONTENT. What would be better (yes I mean more lucrative), a brick and mortar establishment ala "Princebuster" or an online streaming situation? It's not the matter of the "Netflix doc" it's probably more likely that the Estate wants to host and produce it's OWN DOCUMENTARY on its OWN SITE.

Online and offline both require tons of production in order to get off the ground (websites can only handle so much traffic) but if they took a chapter out of WWE's book to follow the model they could do it.

If there was to be a "Princebuster video" store with VHS tapes and cassettes and albums, etc. all of that requires production.

As long as people are interested, nothing will ever be canceled.

"Three letters (.com, .org., .net choose one) took him to his final resting place"

(but y'all don't hear me)

I just blabbed a whole bunch of random thoughts and at the end of the day I'm satisfied with what I just shared. And hopefully not considered too trolly ish.

We all have our levels of "fandom" or whatever it's called. Yet passing on an opportunity to dance on stage with Prince when asked is something I'm probably never going to live down.

I just missed a cue that's all. Then again maybe I didn't feel like dancing in front of a bunch of people on a stage. Maybe I would have enjoyed the dance floor better.

muleFunk said:

dustoff said:

Word. But it's pointless to argue with this kind of "both-sides are crazy" moral equivication, where those arguing for civil rights, on the one hand, and literal Nazis on the other, are subject to the same kind of reactionary centrism. People feel "smart" for keeping out of the fight, staying "above the fray," etc., even as their own liberties and those of others get slowly whittled away. People literally cheer when wingnuts like Moms for Liberty quote Hitler as a positive influence on children, but lose their shit when a drag queen reads kids a book.

But more to the point, we've had literally zero evidence that Netflix is trying to "cancel" or "MeToo" Prince, but that hasn't stopped the pearl-clutchers from melting down over the (incredibly unlikely) possibility. It's all "my friend's cousin saw someone say something mean about Prince on Facebook."

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You are incorrect about the people saying this "Cancel Prince"are just on the internet. I've had several insiders say that it's a movement out trying to drag his name in the ground with heresy evidence.

I believe it's bitter MJ stans who want Prince dragged too.

paisleyparkgirl said:

I believe it's bitter MJ stans who want Prince dragged too.

definitely that. what does that even mean though?

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muleFunk said:

dustoff said:

Word. But it's pointless to argue with this kind of "both-sides are crazy" moral equivication, where those arguing for civil rights, on the one hand, and literal Nazis on the other, are subject to the same kind of reactionary centrism. People feel "smart" for keeping out of the fight, staying "above the fray," etc., even as their own liberties and those of others get slowly whittled away. People literally cheer when wingnuts like Moms for Liberty quote Hitler as a positive influence on children, but lose their shit when a drag queen reads kids a book.

But more to the point, we've had literally zero evidence that Netflix is trying to "cancel" or "MeToo" Prince, but that hasn't stopped the pearl-clutchers from melting down over the (incredibly unlikely) possibility. It's all "my friend's cousin saw someone say something mean about Prince on Facebook."

[Edited 7/14/23 9:49am]

You are incorrect about the people saying this "Cancel Prince"are just on the internet. I've had several insiders say that it's a movement out trying to drag his name in the ground with heresy evidence.

Mhmm, I'm sure you have all the inside scoop about this wide-ranging campaign to smear Prince's name and ruin his legacy. Because that's definitely a real thing that people are organizing to do in real life and not just paranoid delusions

bozojones said:

muleFunk said:

dustoff said: You are incorrect about the people saying this "Cancel Prince"are just on the internet. I've had several insiders say that it's a movement out trying to drag his name in the ground with heresy evidence.

Mhmm, I'm sure you have all the inside scoop about this wide-ranging campaign to smear Prince's name and ruin his legacy. Because that's definitely a real thing that people are organizing to do in real life and not just paranoid delusions

In this day and age any publicity is good for business.

See how the Dahmer Netflix doc was such a success.

People love a villain.

Not saying that Prince was one but if they want to depict him as one I doubt it will hurt his legacy.

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RJOrion said:

LMAO @ the concept of cancelling a man who has already physically passed away.

happyshopper said:

Londell posting on an Instagram story today that he’s in talks with Netflix in LA. From the sound of it it’s not gone well

Without having seen the clip I believe that's old?

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I see it now, " Not on no celebrity wanna be down sh##" what does that even mean?

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happyshopper said:

Londell posting on an Instagram story today that he’s in talks with Netflix in LA.
From the sound of it it’s not gone well

https://www.instagram.com/stories/makemillions_mcmillan/3151585423058080046/

Just more cryptic nonsense

bozojones said:

Farfunknugin said:

happyshopper said:

Londell posting on an Instagram story today that he’s in talks with Netflix in LA. From the sound of it it’s not gone well

Without having seen the clip I believe that's old?

[Edited 7/21/23 10:26am]

I see it now, " Not on no celebrity wanna be down sh##" what does that even mean?

[Edited 7/21/23 10:30am]

Farfunknugin said:

Why the fuck should McMillan have a say, Primary Wave is the majority stakeholder so should be calling the shots!

happyshopper said:

RJOrion said:

Ndorphinmachina said:

RJOrion said:

LMAO @ the concept of cancelling a man who has already physically passed away.

Depicting him in a negative light likely wouldn't "cancel" him. But it could put off new fans or older fans who lost interest. It could hurt already relatively low sales. It certainly wouldn't be of benefit.

There's a wide middle ground between depicting Prince in a negative light in sensationalist fashion, and deifying him as a perfect saint like the estate seemingly wants to do. I imagine the documentary reasonably falls somewhere in that middle ground. Also, I imagine a few less sales from pearl-clutching ex-fans is better than no sales at all, as is currently happening with the estate releasing nothing.

Ndorphinmachina said:

prince doesnt really have anything as bad as MJ, kanye, or r kelly in his closet.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

prince doesnt really have anything as bad as MJ, kanye, or r kelly in his closet.

The Sinnead rumor sound pretty bad.