Ndorphinmachina said:

I can't tell if the guy is being serious when he mentions the competition to win a waterbed that coincided with the release of "Soft & Wet"? It sounds like a joke but, it was the 80s.

It wasn't. Soft and Wet was released in 1978

I love this dude's videos, glad to see him finally tackle Prince's discography

Tons of errors.

bizzie said:

Tons of errors.

I think he did a damn impressive job for someone who ran through Prince's entire discography and career for the first time for the sake of making a video. He might have messed up or misrepresented some small details, but jesus, be happy the guy is helping turn a bunch of younger music nerds onto Prince's music.

bozojones said:

bizzie said:

Tons of errors.

I think he did a damn impressive job for someone who ran through Prince's entire discography and career for the first time for the sake of making a video. He might have messed up or misrepresented some small details, but jesus, be happy the guy is helping turn a bunch of younger music nerds onto Prince's music.

I mean he just essentially went down the Wikipedia and hit the exact same bullet points regarding all the major releases that any review site like AMG has had for decades of internet. His original content is somewhere in the 10%-15% range at best.

And is he really helping "turn" young people onto Prince music by constantly making "jokes" about how he wishes the discography were shorter? Or going on and on and on about "Purple Rain" the song yet again, the one song young people got down he's like "damn I wish I could play the whole track just so you'd UNDERSTAND." I get people dig that track but when they go on and on about an overplayed hit like that it makes it seem like the rest of the catalogue must be underwhelming in comparison. Like you checked out "Purple Rain", you're fine skipping the rest because it gets no better, you have experienced the summit at Mt. Everest, that is his career climax of career climaxes.

I stopped the vid after he gave Come like half a sentence and then made it seem like he's barely going to bother with the rest of the vid because "it's good, but it's just more Prince, if you like Prince you'll probably like the rest." like wtf kind of review is that, you could apply that copypaste shit to literally any artist. He could have started the video with that and wrapped it up at the :30 second mark.


I almost stopped the vid after he mentioned The Family and was like this album has one unquestionable stand-out.... the track that nobody but Sinead saw something in come on. Someone give this lady credit for once for seeing something in a misfit toy deep cut, pulling it out of obscurity, and making something out it. I don't get down with this retconning of history like it was always Top 5 Prince tracks, gimme a break.

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Sometimes it feels like any Prince album review, anywhere, be it print or YouTube, is undermined by the reviewers insistence on making it like an E! True Hollywood Story set-the-scene backstory of Prince's public life in the context of his work. Maybe because that ancillary B.S. has already been articulated many many times over, whereas talking about the material itself requires completely original analysis and interpretation and society is morphing into this copypasta madlibs echo-chamber where it's just easier to recycle and agree with what's already been covered.

Plus it's like the complete opposite of what Prince would want his legacy to be, which is the actual content of the records, which usually gets hammered out in about two sentences after said review has spent the last 7 paragraphs on record contracts, outfits, public appearances, and concert anecdotes.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

bozojones said:

I think he did a damn impressive job for someone who ran through Prince's entire discography and career for the first time for the sake of making a video. He might have messed up or misrepresented some small details, but jesus, be happy the guy is helping turn a bunch of younger music nerds onto Prince's music.

I mean he just essentially went down the Wikipedia and hit the exact same bullet points regarding all the major releases that any review site like AMG has had for decades of internet. His original content is somewhere in the 10%-15% range at best.

And is he really helping "turn" young people onto Prince music by constantly making "jokes" about how he wishes the discography were shorter? Or going on and on and on about "Purple Rain" the song yet again, the one song young people got down he's like "damn I wish I could play the whole track just so you'd UNDERSTAND." I get people dig that track but when they go on and on about an overplayed hit like that it makes it seem like the rest of the catalogue must be underwhelming in comparison. Like you checked out "Purple Rain", you're fine skipping the rest because it gets no better, you have experienced the summit at Mt. Everest, that is his career climax of career climaxes.

I stopped the vid after he gave Come like half a sentence and then made it seem like he's barely going to bother with the rest of the vid because "it's good, but it's just more Prince, if you like Prince you'll probably like the rest." like wtf kind of review is that, you could apply that copypaste shit to literally any artist. He could have started the video with that and wrapped it up at the :30 second mark.


I almost stopped the vid after he mentioned The Family and was like this album has one unquestionable stand-out.... the track that nobody but Sinead saw something in come on. Someone give this lady credit for once for seeing something in a misfit toy deep cut, pulling it out of obscurity, and making something out it. I don't get down with this retconning of history like it was always Top 5 Prince tracks, gimme a break.

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At least he didn't say that all the albums after 89 were bad.

Well I do think a couple in here making paragraphs ranting about the issues they have with this video are taking it a tad too seriously in my opinion lol

This guy has fun videos, they are just him reviewing his listening of the albums and using the general history of the artist/band as a framework for explaining the musical directions each one took. This isn't meant to be like a Duane Tudhal-esque dissection of Prince

strawberryletter23 said:

What budget? Who wants Tudhal deep dissections?

I want less background and more of him just talking about what's on the albums

It's like them big ass paragraphs you're whining about, a big grandiose pile of blather then he gives a sentence of actual discussing the tracks. blahblahblah 37 instruments blahblahblah record labels blahblahblahblah colorful sleeve blahblahblah oh and "i'm yours" has neat guitar "my love is forever" neat ballad "soft & wet" says it all, oookay onto the next album's wikipedia opening.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Sometimes it feels like any Prince album review, anywhere, be it print or YouTube, is undermined by the reviewers insistence on making it like an E! True Hollywood Story set-the-scene backstory of Prince's public life in the context of his work. Maybe because that ancillary B.S. has already been articulated many many times over, whereas talking about the material itself requires completely original analysis and interpretation and society is morphing into this copypasta madlibs echo-chamber where it's just easier to recycle and agree with what's already been covered.

Plus it's like the complete opposite of what Prince would want his legacy to be, which is the actual content of the records, which usually gets hammered out in about two sentences after said review has spent the last 7 paragraphs on record contracts, outfits, public appearances, and concert anecdotes.

Co-sign.

strawberryletter23 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

bozojones said:

strawberryletter23 said:

Well I do think a couple in here making paragraphs ranting about the issues they have with this video are taking it a tad too seriously in my opinion lol

This guy has fun videos, they are just him reviewing his listening of the albums and using the general history of the artist/band as a framework for explaining the musical directions each one took. This isn't meant to be like a Duane Tudhal-esque dissection of Prince

Exactly. I have to wonder how many potential Prince fans have been turned away from his music altogether by the gatekeeper superfans who take everything too damn seriously.

If you let the gatekeepers prevent you from getting into Prince, then you weren't meant to be a Prince fan.

If Prince let the critics have their way, he wouldn't have become Prince.

Back to the video, I'm a bit annoyed that "Revelation" didn't get a mention but to each his own and we have to respect that.

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bozojones said:

strawberryletter23 said:

Well I do think a couple in here making paragraphs ranting about the issues they have with this video are taking it a tad too seriously in my opinion lol

This guy has fun videos, they are just him reviewing his listening of the albums and using the general history of the artist/band as a framework for explaining the musical directions each one took. This isn't meant to be like a Duane Tudhal-esque dissection of Prince

Exactly. I have to wonder how many potential Prince fans have been turned away from his music altogether by the gatekeeper superfans who take everything too damn seriously.

That's their fault for relying on being spoon-fed by others, and not taking the initiative to find their own way into an artists work. Whatever did people do before the internet I wonder?

bozojones said:

Y'all have zero awareness that you're the type of Prince fans to give Prince fans a bad name

It is part of why I mostly just lurk here off and on, too make argumentative fans complaining about everything lol.

Personally I thought it was a fun video, and this video is in line with the other videos this channel has done. I first found out about him when he did a video going over De La Soul's discog in a similar way and found it a nice introduction for people just getting into them

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Ndorphinmachina said:

Uh... You do? Because you said...

I want less background and more of him just talking about what's on the albums

It's like them big ass paragraphs you're whining about, a big grandiose pile of blather then he gives a sentence of actual discussing the tracks. blahblahblah 37 instruments blahblahblah record labels blahblahblahblah colorful sleeve blahblahblah oh and "i'm yours" has neat guitar "my love is forever" neat ballad "soft & wet" says it all, oookay onto the next album's wikipedia opening.

UhhhHHhHHhhhmmmmmmm, what? How does a direct quote of me saying "I want less background" mean I want more background?

You've now quoted it twice. You gonna make it a third?

The second paragraph is literally me mocking all the stupid ancillary background B.S. YouTube bro spends half sentences discussing what actually is occuring on the album tracks, like mentioning "I'm Yours" has a cool guitar. That's the kind of content I'm interested in. Not history, not what it was like in the studo, just... play the record. What does person think of the record?

This is why I watch Prince reaction videos. They react to the actual songs.

And I take it as vindication that the Prince reddit, the real haven of n00b Prince fans, for all you clutching pearls that we're somehow turning off the potential new fans with our blather here--news flash, potential new fans already avoid this place like you old fans avoid N.E.WS. and C-Note--Prince reddit has a thread on their main page from a newer fan saying this YouTube "Deep Discog Dive" has them realizing that "actually Prince made too many albums and made too many records, and maybe WB had a point and his career would have been vastly improved with an editor."

It's why I make a "big deal" about these videos. You old-azzes DGAF about new fans 95% of the time anyway, don't even try and front like you're the official Prince welcome wagon of the internet here.

As someone who actually watches every new fan reaction video and genuinely cares about the sociology of new fans and contemporary perceptions of media: average young person on the internet would rather paste someone else's opinion than conceive of their own. They watch a video on the internet and figure, "hm, guy has a point, I agree with this guy! Let me just parrot the same opinion all across the internet."

So yes, as I now predicted a mere 23 hours ago, new fans are going to be influenced by this dope's dopey takes (it's why they're called "influencers" now) , and their influence is: ya know it is really too much material, and just too overwhelming to properly enjoy.

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Mountains out of molehills, always the damn mountains out of molehills

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mb71 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

I would love if this guy made a video highlighting perhaps some of the most famous non-album/bootlegged/later-released Vault track releases

I agree with his views regarding non-P spotlights on P albums