The most cringe-worthy is the NPG song "2gether" from 1-800-New-Funk. The lazy delivery, the small self-important laugh at the end of every line. Ugh.

But I do love his performances on MNIP, SexyMF, Call The Law and Black MF In The House.

Se7en said:

RJOrion said:

Se7en said:

The most cringe-worthy is the NPG song "2gether" from 1-800-New-Funk. The lazy delivery, the small self-important laugh at the end of every line. Ugh.

But I do love his performances on MNIP, SexyMF, Call The Law and Black MF In The House.

Wow..."2gether"is one of Tony and NPG's best performances...its amazing how opinions can vary so much from one person to another.

i like it, too.

There is a hidden gem in the maxi single, also!

yeah, "2Gether" in GOATed in the realm of Tony M. Super smooth track, smooth Tony M. delivery. Better than "get stoopid! Get stoopid!" anyway... What sign you are? Stop sign?

nayroo2002 said:

RJOrion said:

"Love 2 The 9s" didnt need any rap at all...Prince, Tony M and Mayte ALL desecrated that beautiful masterpiece by rapping on it.. And wtf does "lemme see that booty boom" even mean??

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True. I consider Love2the9s one of his best Prince songs from the 90s on. And that rapping is completely unnecessary.

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But I dont hate Tony´s rap. He was cool on ´Gett Off´, ´Sexy MF´. In studio he was ok.

lurker316 said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

He ruined Willing And Able for me.

Willing and Able is one of the few Tony raps I don't mind. Granted, the song would be better without it. But I don't think it totally ruins the song. It has a nice, mellow, sing-songy quality that isn't totally offensive to my ears.

happyshopper said:

Only track I really liked with Tony was Call the Law, but that NPG album was all pretty good. Just wish he wasn’t on a lot of the “Prince” songs, like Willing & Able, where he adds nothing.

I will admit back in the day, when the D&P Video Collection came out, I watched the VHS endlessly. "Call The Law" was something I could deal with. I have more memories attached to the song than actual love of Tony M.

Live: Rock In Rio 91'- Something Funky In this House Comes

Songs: Call the Law, My Name Is Prince, Willing & Able

Love him or hate him, he brought the hype to a lot of P's music in the 90s. I dont get the Tony M hate. Those who get it, get it & those who don't, don't.

Prince + rap = good tries with minimum success, outside of a few instances.

In Tony's case, The Flow, Goldnigga (he was great on), and for me that would be it. Everything else is just kind of Prince forcing his was into an era he didn't belong.

claudemorton said:

prince obv didnt have a great sense of what was good or bad in hip hop terms (id still say his best 'rap' was irresistible bitch, and the best raps he ever got from anyone else came from cat and sheila e, prob as they were obviously rapped, but werent trying to sound like more regular hip hop content, lyric-wise).

i think this continued even as he got older and presumably listened to more rappers.

but i wonder if he thought the rapping he did or got from other rappers for his music was genuinely good, or if he ever thought, 'that wasnt the best decision i made'.

or maybe he still believed in tony's greatness, decades after the fact.

My fave? I loved his Yogi Bear impression on The Max.

"Yo Boo-boo, tell me where the pic-a-nic basket's at! Yo Boo-boo, I wanna shuffle the foods in that stack!"

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i forgot about the max!

def one of his underrated moments. its prob closest to gett off too, in terms of how prince and tony switch the vocals between them.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

i forgot about the max!

def one of his underrated moments. its prob closest to gett off too, in terms of how prince and tony switch the vocals between them.

It's even better without him.

Ndorphinmachina said:

Aside from anything he is not on, 2Gether I thought he did a great job on.

I think having Tony M. on a few tracks, such as Gett Off, Sexy MF and MNIP was fine.

Everyone incorporated a "guest rapper" at the time in the late 80s/early 90s. . . . MJ had guest rappers in Jam and Black & White, Janet Jackson with Alright, Paula Abdul in Opposites Attract, etc. C&C Music Factory was huge around this time too.

The difference though is that Prince hired Tony M. as a member of the NPG, and he's all over Prince/NPG releases for quite a few years. That's the part that I had a problem with.

RJOrion said:

Word...id rather listen to Tony M rap, than MANY popular mc's..including some big names like: Vanilla Ice Lil Wayne Eminem Tupac Dr. Dre Outkast (andre3000) Kendrick Lamar Drake Migos or Pretty much any rapper from the South [Edited 7/14/23 8:00am]

Easy, Tiger. It's easy to make claims like these when we never got a proper Tony M. solo record. Dr. Dre wasn't so bad in 20 second snippet hypeman form during Jimmy Z's "Funky Flute" either.

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RJOrion said:

dodger07 said: