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Reply #30 posted 06/09/23 8:51am

TrevorAyer

yokohama could make a nice syracuse type release .. one off dvd w cds works for me especially if they are gonna do DNP and not PARADE this year

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Reply #31 posted 06/09/23 9:13am

lurker316

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MIRvmn1 said:

happyshopper said:
I’m not sure of the reasons either, it has something to do not promoting it for too long.. and dragging it out. Seems strange, as we all already know what’s coming, more or less.
I think the problem is that they're still not sure when they can release it since it's was supposed to be released in July and then it was postponed to October. [Edited 6/9/23 8:37am]



I undertand. Normally, I might not want to announce something four months before its release. But the circumstances in this specific case may justify it. We've had this incredible draught that's causing fandom to revolt. Also, the photos have already been leaked. This isn't a standard situation.


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Reply #32 posted 06/09/23 9:14am

lurker316

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lustmealways said:

lustmealways said:

If there's not an announcement by the time Celebration wraps up then honestly fuck them. They have the goods. For those doubting the amount of potential D&P stuff, NONE of these titles are familiar to me. Think about how much stuff there is that we have absolutely ZERO clue exists.

NEVERMIND it looks like a lot of these titles were on Princevault and I just wasn't observant. Still. Some weren't.



Were they always on PV, or where they just added as a result of the Celebration?


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Reply #33 posted 06/09/23 10:01am

Landonfunkmonk
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Don't Play With Love, You're Such A Tease and the ironically title All Shared Together Now are new to me.
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #34 posted 06/09/23 10:02am

lustmealways

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lurker316 said:

lustmealways said:

NEVERMIND it looks like a lot of these titles were on Princevault and I just wasn't observant. Still. Some weren't.



Were they always on PV, or where they just added as a result of the Celebration?


some were... i think all the 2000s titles were obviously not there before yesterday.

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Reply #35 posted 06/09/23 10:08am

thisisreece

lustmealways said:



lurker316 said:




lustmealways said:



NEVERMIND it looks like a lot of these titles were on Princevault and I just wasn't observant. Still. Some weren't.





Were they always on PV, or where they just added as a result of the Celebration?




some were... i think all the 2000s titles were obviously not there before yesterday.


All the Kings Horses and Della Blackheart been on prince vault for some time. Always assumed the former belonged on the fabled TRC 2.
Hundalasiliah!
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Reply #36 posted 06/09/23 10:11am

Vannormal

I've downized my expectations so low a level where i would be extremely happy to just hear 1 minute snippets of these... instead of another year of nothing...

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VIPs heard it, paid shitload, and that's it.

OK, they could see the whole Yokohama '86.

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Curious what it's going to be tomorrow...

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #37 posted 06/09/23 10:11am

TwiliteMan

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

Don't Play With Love, You're Such A Tease and the ironically title All Shared Together Now are new to me.

Yep, and those pages were just added to PV yesterday: https://princevault.com/i...l:NewPages

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Reply #38 posted 06/09/23 10:44am

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thisisreece said:

All the Kings Horses and Della Blackheart been on prince vault for some time. Always assumed the former belonged on the fabled TRC 2.

my face is red i stand corrected etc

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Reply #39 posted 06/09/23 11:58am

ExTAFKASoladeo
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Has Bloody Mouth been played yet???

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Reply #40 posted 06/09/23 12:02pm

lustmealways

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ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

Has Bloody Mouth been played yet???

I would feel it deep inside if it was. Like a bat signal only I can see.

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Reply #41 posted 06/09/23 12:12pm

lustmealways

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funky music belongs to people who... can afford to fly to paisley and spend 4 figures on celebration tickets and hotel accommodations

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Reply #42 posted 06/09/23 12:41pm

bizzie

lurker316 said:

I undertand. Normally, I might not want to announce something four months before its release.

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Every SDE was announced three to four months in advance.

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1999 Super Deluxe was announced mid-September, released at the end of November

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PR Deluxe was teased in mid-February, announced at the end of April, and released in late June.

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SOTT SDE: Config leaked at the end of May. QL leaked (part of) the tracklist in early June when he did 4 days of Prince streams around Prince's birthday. Announced at the end of June. Released end of September.

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W2A was announced about four months before release IIRC.

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Reply #43 posted 06/09/23 12:43pm

bizzie

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OK, they could see the whole Yokohama '86.

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Nope, 45 minutes. Not even the smashing of the guitars.

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Reply #44 posted 06/09/23 12:46pm

themanfromnept
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bizzie said:

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W2A was announced about four months before release IIRC.

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Originals was announced 24 april and released on Tidal 7 june

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Reply #45 posted 06/09/23 4:08pm

rap

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That is some shady shit to have all that goodness accessible only to those willing to fork out the big macaroni. I know I sound bitter but I felt genuine anger knowing they have a full pro-shot Yokohama 1986 sitting pretty at PP. I can't be the only one 😂

Is that confirmed?

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Reply #46 posted 06/09/23 4:13pm

bozojones

lustmealways said:

funky music belongs to people who... can afford to fly to paisley and spend 4 figures on celebration tickets and hotel accommodations

and the rest of us peasants get overpriced vinyl reissues lol

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Reply #47 posted 06/09/23 7:09pm

GustavoRibas

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bizzie said:

(...).

Next WHEW, tracked 4/4/2006 probably with Bland, Sonny T, and P an instrumental to fit on Lotusflow3r. "Della Black Heart". Rocky. Bland went CRAZY on the drums. Prince went CRAZY on guitar solos. Imagine it as the sibling of "I Am" from Deliverance, but with more solos.

(...)

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source https://twitter.com/darli...0388736009 and beyond

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- I NEED to listen to this one. Love this era.

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Reply #48 posted 06/10/23 12:13am

rap

There is a Studio C? Any recent photos?

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Reply #49 posted 06/10/23 12:43am

mb71

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rap said:

There is a Studio C? Any recent photos?

Educate yourself - https://princevault.com/i...rk_Studios

Formerly TheDigitalGardener etc.
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Reply #50 posted 06/10/23 1:59am

bizzie

themanfromneptune said:

bizzie said:

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W2A was announced about four months before release IIRC.

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Originals was announced 24 april and released on Tidal 7 june

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And only released physically by the end of June.

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Reply #51 posted 06/10/23 1:59am

bizzie

rap said:

boomshaka said:

That is some shady shit to have all that goodness accessible only to those willing to fork out the big macaroni. I know I sound bitter but I felt genuine anger knowing they have a full pro-shot Yokohama 1986 sitting pretty at PP. I can't be the only one 😂

Is that confirmed?

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The people who saw it say so.

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Reply #52 posted 06/10/23 2:22am

themanfromnept
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bizzie said:

themanfromneptune said:

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Originals was announced 24 april and released on Tidal 7 june

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And only released physically by the end of June.

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ok, anyway 2 months instead of 4

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Reply #53 posted 06/10/23 4:13am

bizzie

themanfromneptune said:

bizzie said:

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And only released physically by the end of June.

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ok, anyway 2 months instead of 4

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Piano & A Microphone 1983: announced early June, released late September.

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W2A: announced early April, released late July.

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So in order:

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- 2 months or 4 months (since PRDeluxe was teased before being announced)

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- 3 months

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- 2 months

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- 2.5 months

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- 3 months

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- 4 months

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Consideirng that Spicer was whining at the Celebration about the butthurt he had because fans were upset the Estate had been so incompetent and had not released anything, and that he was whining how it all isn't so simple, and that 2023 was gonna be a "big year" (ignoring that already 5+ months have passed in this "big year"), and that he posts butthurt tweets in the past couple of days, and that there is obviously not going to be an announcement during the Celebration despite him having promised that, and that we know the SDE has been delayed to October,... Yeah, I'm gonne guess there will be several months between announcement and release. At least 2, probably 3.

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Reply #54 posted 06/10/23 4:18am

9to5People

Don’t Play with Love was one of the tracks on his fathers album released in 2018. A re-recording no doubt, but I wonder if it’s the same song.

https://www.princevault.c..._With_Love
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Reply #55 posted 06/10/23 3:54pm

rap

mb71 said:

rap said:

There is a Studio C? Any recent photos?

Educate yourself - https://princevault.com/i...rk_Studios

Still no (recent) photo though.

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Reply #56 posted 06/10/23 4:12pm

Lynnie53

WhisperingDandelions said:



Landonfunkmonkey said:


ShellyMcG said:
Good for them but fuck the rest of us.

It could be a frustrating experience. You get to hear it once and then never again. They should allow them to hear stuff the is imminently going tp be released. [Edited 6/9/23 0:44am]

Yeah it feels odd from like a media fan relations standpoint.. I mean you know if the estate was handled with any logic, reason or sense of gravitas and import.

You wouldn't catch Disney or Marvel just one-off showing some archived lost footage at a comic con without some bigger-picture plan or concept for something that is for the larger audience en masse.



Exactly this. Was talking to my brother and asking if he regretted not buying tix in light of all the unreleased songs played. He couldn’t make sense of how it fits together - both amongst the songs played or any sort of broader context. We surmised the estate panicked at not being able to put anything else together for this Celebration and just vomited out a bunch of unreleased songs they thought were good. A sloppy but easy strategy that fits for this crew.
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Reply #57 posted 06/10/23 4:55pm

bozojones

So there haven't been reports of any other unreleased songs beyond the first night?

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Reply #58 posted 06/10/23 6:03pm

onlyforaminute

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So you serious think they'll never let the rest of us hear it? Have they done this before? Or is this just "Lowered Expectations"?
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #59 posted 06/10/23 7:26pm

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Lynnie53 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

Yeah it feels odd from like a media fan relations standpoint.. I mean you know if the estate was handled with any logic, reason or sense of gravitas and import.

You wouldn't catch Disney or Marvel just one-off showing some archived lost footage at a comic con without some bigger-picture plan or concept for something that is for the larger audience en masse.

Exactly this. Was talking to my brother and asking if he regretted not buying tix in light of all the unreleased songs played. He couldn’t make sense of how it fits together - both amongst the songs played or any sort of broader context. We surmised the estate panicked at not being able to put anything else together for this Celebration and just vomited out a bunch of unreleased songs they thought were good. A sloppy but easy strategy that fits for this crew.


Let's face it. The Celebration has gone from 3 headlines to 2, and those headlines are now background singers and cover acts. They need to pad it out with something and old videos seems to be the cost effective solution, particularly as they couldn't sell out a small hall.

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