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Thread started 05/29/23 6:55pm

laytonian

How much did his catalog sell for?

Queen's catalog is selling for $1.1 billion.
Stevie Nicks got$80 million.
Bob Dylan sold his for high nine figures.

Did Prince's "family" get bamboozled?
Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #1 posted 05/30/23 6:15am

RJOrion

laytonian said:

Queen's catalog is selling for $1.1 billion.
Stevie Nicks got$80 million.
Bob Dylan sold his for high nine figures.

Did Prince's "family" get bamboozled?


ALL the black artists on major labels get bamboozled...its the nature of the beast
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Reply #2 posted 05/30/23 6:56am

JorisE73

laytonian said:

Queen's catalog is selling for $1.1 billion. Stevie Nicks got$80 million. Bob Dylan sold his for high nine figures. Did Prince's "family" get bamboozled?



They let themselves get bamboozled, that's also why Lonny and Spicer are now in there.
If they took the time to get educated on how the business worked they could have gotten alot more.

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Reply #3 posted 05/30/23 8:50am

bizzie

laytonian said:

Queen's catalog is selling for $1.1 billion. Stevie Nicks got$80 million. Bob Dylan sold his for high nine figures. Did Prince's "family" get bamboozled?

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Oh for crying out loud, LEARN about what these deals mean instead of spouting nonsense.

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Two question: who owns Prince's publishing? Who owns the rights to his masters?

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Until you can answer that, don't post this conspiratorial nonsense.

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Reply #4 posted 05/30/23 4:00pm

TrivialPursuit

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Do some homework before posting about things you clearly don't know one gatdayum thing about.

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Reply #5 posted 05/31/23 8:09am

Vannormal

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/03/entertainment/prince-estate-settled/index.html#:~:text=According%20to%20court%20documents%2C%20Prince,entities%20owned%20by%20Primary%20Wave.

https://marketrealist.com/p/who-owns-prince-masters/#:~:text=The%20largest%20single%20interest%20holder,Stone%20reported%20in%20July%202021.

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Reply #6 posted 05/31/23 8:14am

Vannormal

By the way, Primay Wave took in 2020 a majority stake in the songwriting catalog of

Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac.

So not 100% of her catalogue.

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In Prince's case :

"The largest single interest holder of Prince’s estate is independent music publisher and talent management company Primary Wave, as RS reported in July 2021.

At the time, Primary Wave had just bought out 100 percent of the interest of Prince’s brother Omarr Baker, having previously bought 90 percent of sister Tyka Nelson’s interest and 100 percent of half-brother Alfred Jackson’s.

That deal gave the company a stake in the royalty from Prince’s masters, the magazine added."

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #7 posted 05/31/23 2:09pm

Astasheiks

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When you say, "having previously bought 90 percent of sister Tyka Nelson’s interest"

So does each year does Tyka get 10% of what ever the Estate grossed that year??? confused

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Reply #8 posted 05/31/23 4:15pm

IanRG

So Bizzie and TrivialPursuit, as our resident "experts", rather than using this thread as another opportunity to criticise Prince fans:

What do you think the various deals mean?

How do they compare to the deals done by other estates?

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Reply #9 posted 05/31/23 8:02pm

rap

bizzie said:

laytonian said:

Queen's catalog is selling for $1.1 billion. Stevie Nicks got$80 million. Bob Dylan sold his for high nine figures. Did Prince's "family" get bamboozled?

.

Oh for crying out loud, LEARN about what these deals mean instead of spouting nonsense.

.

Two question: who owns Prince's publishing? Who owns the rights to his masters?

.

Until you can answer that, don't post this conspiratorial nonsense.

Oh Bort, will you ever learn?

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Reply #10 posted 05/31/23 10:26pm

onlyforaminute

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Astasheiks said:

When you say, "having previously bought 90 percent of sister Tyka Nelson’s interest"



So does each year does Tyka get 10% of what ever the Estate grossed that year??? confused


10% of her portion. There are 6 portions.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #11 posted 06/01/23 2:53pm

IanRG

onlyforaminute said:

Astasheiks said:

When you say, "having previously bought 90 percent of sister Tyka Nelson’s interest"

So does each year does Tyka get 10% of what ever the Estate grossed that year??? confused

10% of her portion. There are 6 portions.


And not of the gross takings but only of the rights to distributions to owners by the estate after costs and taxes.

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Reply #12 posted 06/01/23 3:25pm

TrivialPursuit

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rap said:

bizzie said:

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Oh for crying out loud, LEARN about what these deals mean instead of spouting nonsense.

.

Two question: who owns Prince's publishing? Who owns the rights to his masters?

.

Until you can answer that, don't post this conspiratorial nonsense.

Oh Bort, will you ever learn?


That ain't Bert/Bart. He'd not have gone that route.

But I have a decent idea who is behind that angsty moniker.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #13 posted 06/01/23 4:28pm

rap

TrivialPursuit said:

rap said:

Oh Bort, will you ever learn?


That ain't Bert/Bart. He'd not have gone that route.

But I have a decent idea who is behind that angsty moniker.

What makes you so sure? Bort/Bizzie stoppped posting around the end of last year. Bizzie/Bort started posting around the beginning of this year. The writing style (or abusive manner) is almost an exact match!

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Reply #14 posted 06/01/23 4:34pm

RJOrion

rap said:



TrivialPursuit said:




rap said:




Oh Bort, will you ever learn?




That ain't Bert/Bart. He'd not have gone that route.

But I have a decent idea who is behind that angsty moniker.




What makes you so sure? Bort/Bizzie stoppped posting around the end of last year. Bizzie/Bort started posting around the beginning of this year. The writing style (or abusive manner) is almost an exact match!



Seems more like a match to OF4S than Bart
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Reply #15 posted 06/01/23 5:10pm

TrivialPursuit

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RJOrion said:

rap said:

What makes you so sure? Bort/Bizzie stoppped posting around the end of last year. Bizzie/Bort started posting around the beginning of this year. The writing style (or abusive manner) is almost an exact match!

Seems more like a match to OF4S than Bart


You ain't wrong. But I don't think it's either of them. Esp not Bart. I'm sure they're loving the attention, so let's move on.

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Reply #16 posted 06/01/23 6:23pm

rap

RJOrion said:

rap said:

What makes you so sure? Bort/Bizzie stoppped posting around the end of last year. Bizzie/Bort started posting around the beginning of this year. The writing style (or abusive manner) is almost an exact match!

Seems more like a match to OF4S than Bart

I never had a problem with OF4S and I've been coming here for quite a while.

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Reply #17 posted 06/03/23 4:47am

PennyPurple

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Astasheiks said:

When you say, "having previously bought 90 percent of sister Tyka Nelson’s interest"

So does each year does Tyka get 10% of what ever the Estate grossed that year??? confused

No, Tyka sold PW the rest of her 10% share.

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Reply #18 posted 06/05/23 12:27am

JorisE73

rap said:

RJOrion said:

rap said: Seems more like a match to OF4S than Bart

I never had a problem with OF4S and I've been coming here for quite a while.



I don't know, he/she pretending to be of mixed race and using that as a excuse to be racist againt anything "Black" seemed kind of bullshit, not to mention there bullshit way of moderating here. But anyway, this person got caught in his bullshit so.. shrug

[Edited 6/5/23 0:27am]

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Reply #19 posted 06/23/23 12:07pm

dave1dmarx

RJOrion said:

laytonian said:
Queen's catalog is selling for $1.1 billion. Stevie Nicks got$80 million. Bob Dylan sold his for high nine figures. Did Prince's "family" get bamboozled?
ALL the black artists on major labels get bamboozled...its the nature of the beast

I guess Jay-Z and Diddy never got that memo. wink

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Reply #20 posted 06/23/23 1:18pm

RJOrion

dave1dmarx said:



RJOrion said:


laytonian said:
Queen's catalog is selling for $1.1 billion. Stevie Nicks got$80 million. Bob Dylan sold his for high nine figures. Did Prince's "family" get bamboozled?

ALL the black artists on major labels get bamboozled...its the nature of the beast

I guess Jay-Z and Diddy never got that memo. wink




JayZ and Beyonce and Sean Combs havent sold (or tried to sell) their catalogs yet, and who even knows if they are truly happy with their current deals...ask the veteran artists that are still alive, or the estates of those who have passed on, or were mysteriously murdered if they were ripped off and bamboozled. .like Prince, Sam Cooke, ANY Motown Artist from The Temptations to Rick James, Michael Jackson, Donny Hathaway, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Chaka Khan, Aretha Franklin, James Brown, etc...those artists created miliions and millions of dollars for their labels and distributors, only to get a relatively small and disproportionate cut of the profit pie...
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