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Thread started 03/28/23 4:09pm

MissGrace

Willing & Able

Four different 'Willing & Able' mixes have surfaced. The Extended version is very similar to the video version, with longer intro and longer ending.

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Reply #1 posted 03/28/23 5:17pm

TrivialPursuit

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MissGrace said:

Four different 'Willing & Able' mixes have surfaced. The Extended version is very similar to the video version, with longer intro and longer ending.


Oh my, really?!?!?! I must hear these.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #2 posted 03/28/23 5:37pm

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Any chance any of them are without Tony M's rapping ?

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Reply #3 posted 03/28/23 5:47pm

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surfaced?

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Reply #4 posted 03/28/23 10:00pm

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So are these in general circulation?
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #5 posted 03/29/23 7:02am

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Yes, need to know if there is a non-rap version... please baby jesus

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Reply #6 posted 03/29/23 7:17am

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DotsofU said:

Yes, need to know if there is a non-rap version... please baby jesus

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in NPG Ahdio 9 there is the album version with a different ending cutting the rap (quite raw)

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Reply #7 posted 03/29/23 7:27am

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I don't get the hate of those raps in those songs that were written that way--yeah it's not big-league Hip-Hop, but whatever. I guess haters just gonna hate.

rolleyes

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Reply #8 posted 03/29/23 7:34am

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the raps are god tier and also i need these mixes

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Reply #9 posted 03/29/23 11:12am

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MissGrace said:

Four different 'Willing & Able' mixes have surfaced. The Extended version is very similar to the video version, with longer intro and longer ending.

And what are the differences ?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #10 posted 03/29/23 12:56pm

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Just because someone doesn't want the raps doesn't make them a hater

Good grief - someone has a different point of view and they are a hater...

Maybe since we already have the rap versions, some of us want to have the option to not have them

Jesus christ already with the hater nonsense

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Reply #11 posted 03/29/23 12:56pm

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DotsofU said:

Yes, need to know if there is a non-rap version... please baby jesus

Just ask T.P.

They got a special no-rap app! lol

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #12 posted 03/29/23 2:23pm

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So has anyone else heard these yet?
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #13 posted 03/29/23 3:18pm

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4 versions... If I didn't know better, I would think that is almost 'Box Set' teaser material

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Reply #14 posted 03/29/23 4:24pm

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

So has anyone else heard these yet?


No, but I'm hankering to hear them.

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Reply #15 posted 03/29/23 5:39pm

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

So has anyone else heard these yet?


Nope

FranklyZappa said:

4 versions... If I didn't know better, I would think that is almost 'Box Set' teaser material


hmmm if so probably
Album version
Edit
Video version
Video extended version.

I have no real clue.
4 version of willing and able is overkill (on a box set)
Oh wait.. 1999 SDE had 4 versions of some tracks. Album vers, Single edit, remix and what nots.

Who knows

Hopefully it's not that above. The OP said 4 mixes. One can hope for 4 mixes we've yet to hear
[Edited 3/29/23 20:02pm]
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Reply #16 posted 03/29/23 5:42pm

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i still do not have these

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Reply #17 posted 03/29/23 7:31pm

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Not going to lie, my heart sunk the first time I heard Tony M rapping on a Prince record. But I have to say, he did a good job on Willing and Able. Possibly his best. I love the video version of this track. Some of Prince's best screams ever. The whole band is sharp and on point. Keys, organ, guitars, horns. These guys were on fire.

[Edited 3/29/23 19:33pm]

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Reply #18 posted 03/29/23 11:28pm

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Great then, if U really don't hate. The raps are a part of the song--I'd be thinking the same way if one would want to find an edit of a recording where those Prince screams aren't in there--not liking that kind of screeeching, y'know.

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People wanna edit out parts that exhibit a disliked artistic choice or unpreferred expression, and that's not hating. OK then, perhaps we can call it "a desire for an alternative" like U suggest. Maybe somebody CAN dig up an unfinished version or unmixed track that would suit your rap-less alternative desires.

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Maybe one day somebody will cut a cover of the song that doesn't include the rap and reap the benefits of the alternative viz.

DotsofU said:

Just because someone doesn't want the raps doesn't make them a hater

Good grief - someone has a different point of view and they are a hater...

Maybe since we already have the rap versions, some of us want to have the option to not have them

Jesus christ already with the hater nonsense

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Reply #19 posted 03/29/23 11:46pm

thisisreece

chrisslope9 said:

Not going to lie, my heart sunk the first time I heard Tony M rapping on a Prince record. But I have to say, he did a good job on Willing and Able. Possibly his best. I love the video version of this track. Some of Prince's best screams ever. The whole band is sharp and on point. Keys, organ, guitars, horns. These guys were on fire.

[Edited 3/29/23 19:33pm]


This. My favourite Tony M appearance - he’s a great addition to the song (the only time you’ll catch me saying that!). Everything about the video version is just perfect.
Hundalasiliah!
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Reply #20 posted 03/29/23 11:55pm

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thisisreece said:

chrisslope9 said:

Not going to lie, my heart sunk the first time I heard Tony M rapping on a Prince record. But I have to say, he did a good job on Willing and Able. Possibly his best. I love the video version of this track. Some of Prince's best screams ever. The whole band is sharp and on point. Keys, organ, guitars, horns. These guys were on fire.

[Edited 3/29/23 19:33pm]

This. My favourite Tony M appearance - he’s a great addition to the song (the only time you’ll catch me saying that!). Everything about the video version is just perfect.

Same here. This song is probably my favorite on the album. The video/live-in-the-studio version is just perfect as well. At this point, I don't think I really *need* another version of the song. lol

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Reply #21 posted 03/30/23 12:29am

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FragileUndertow said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:
So has anyone else heard these yet?
Nope FranklyZappa said:

4 versions... If I didn't know better, I would think that is almost 'Box Set' teaser material

hmmm if so probably Album version Edit Video version Video extended version. I have no real clue. 4 version of willing and able is overkill (on a box set) Oh wait.. 1999 SDE had 4 versions of some tracks. Album vers, Single edit, remix and what nots. Who knows Hopefully it's not that above. The OP said 4 mixes. One can hope for 4 mixes we've yet to hear [Edited 3/29/23 20:02pm]

There's also the version from D&P Beginnings. It had the interlude Joyful Sound before it. This is probably the 'longer intro' the OP is referring to.

Prince only vocals (no Rosie, Steeles or Tony rap)

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Reply #22 posted 03/30/23 6:07am

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chrisslope9 said:

Not going to lie, my heart sunk the first time I heard Tony M rapping on a Prince record. But I have to say, he did a good job on Willing and Able. Possibly his best. I love the video version of this track. Some of Prince's best screams ever. The whole band is sharp and on point. Keys, organ, guitars, horns. These guys were on fire.

[Edited 3/29/23 19:33pm]

I absolutely love the version of this song from the video.

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Reply #23 posted 03/30/23 8:06am

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This is one song that I think Tony's rap works. Brilliant tune.

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Reply #24 posted 03/30/23 8:11am

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It really is one of the best things he ever did. A different sound for him. (Always makes me think of South African stuff, tho I don't know if that's technically accurate.) And yes, Tony's finest moment with his mouth open. Not his usual bombastic self.

And the video version... something magical about it. It's like the opposite of his solo in studio, sterile electronic jams, excellent as they are. Almost like an old fashioned jazz record. As he said later, real music by real musicians.
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Reply #25 posted 03/30/23 8:11am

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alandail said:

chrisslope9 said:

Not going to lie, my heart sunk the first time I heard Tony M rapping on a Prince record. But I have to say, he did a good job on Willing and Able. Possibly his best. I love the video version of this track. Some of Prince's best screams ever. The whole band is sharp and on point. Keys, organ, guitars, horns. These guys were on fire.

[Edited 3/29/23 19:33pm]

I absolutely love the version of this song from the video.

Part of the forthcoming release...

"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
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Reply #26 posted 03/30/23 1:19pm

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Never heard it.

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #27 posted 03/30/23 2:22pm

kindofblue

The video is one of my all-time-favourites. The Steeles are killing it, too.

I always dreamt that this was a longer live-in-the-studio recording session with more songs (see The Undertaker) - and one day we get to see it all! cool lol

olb99 said:

The video/live-in-the-studio version is just perfect as well.

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Reply #28 posted 03/30/23 3:26pm

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kindofblue said:

The video is one of my all-time-favourites. The Steeles are killing it, too.

I always dreamt that this was a longer live-in-the-studio recording session with more songs (see The Undertaker) - and one day we get to see it all! cool lol


One of the best moments is the gal who is on the crew, working behind a camera guy, has a roll of tape on her belt loop, and she's just sorta groovin' back n' forth enjoying the moment.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #29 posted 03/30/23 9:08pm

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Clowns
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