Some interesting tidbits: https://youtu.be/TwOEXlikm3Q

Never heard that story of ''Right On'' magazine.

That's fantastic!

Thank you for this.

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Here. For the lazy ones :

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(1978-1981.) Cynthia Horner got a job right after her High School graduate at 'Right On' magazine, as an assitant. Six months later she became an editor.

The Jackson Five were huge back then and constantly on the cover of their magazines.

"Prince used to call the job all the time. He would call like two, three times a day. We would just ignore his calls. We didn't know who he was. Never heard of 'm. Then what happens was; out of desperation, he called and said, ''Can you come to SIR Recording Studios, and I will play you some instruments, and you will see that I have Talent. After that i will have to be in the magazine.''

Went down ther, he started playing all these different instruments, drums and all.

I was, like, amazed. I said you know what? You're the most talented person i ever met as a musician.

So I agree to mut him in the magazine.

I had contacted the record company. They were like laughing, because I found out he was on Warner Brothers.

They said, look, of this guy we can get rid of more posters than we can sell records.

Because he was so new, his music was different, so no one really understood what that was he was trying to do. So he had a lot of trouble.

But after getting in the magazine it became a lot easier because he was gorgeous looking.

And even Michael Jackson would say; ''Who is he?''

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I like that story.

Cocky Prince calling a magzine, self assured and full of himself. Yeah I like that.

So Prince also went back in to to the studio to re-record his part in 'Bad' by Michael jackson the way he thought it should be, and send it back to Michael?

I even haven't heard this story before either... told by Susannah Melvoin.

OOOOOOH boy I wan't to hear that!

That for me is a the holy grail!

Wonder if any of his own associated ever hear it?

Has this been mentioned before?

Also never heard that Prince talked with Tavis for hours about Michael Jackson from 2 AM till the sun came up, in Montreux, Switerserland 2009.

"Lavaux" (2010)

Vannormal said:

So Prince also went back in to to the studio to re-record his part in 'Bad' by Michael jackson the way he thought it should be, and send it back to Michael?

I even haven't heard this story before either... told by Susannah Melvoin.

OOOOOOH boy I wan't to hear that!

That for me is a the holy grail!

Wonder if any of his own associated ever hear it?

Has this been mentioned before?

yes, it's been mentioned. "Bad" is so bad and bereft of Prince-level funk/edge you know he was just.. aghast, probably had to stop the track midway to asap grab his guitar/bass/linn to clense himself.

I can't see Prince singing BAD with Michael Jackson. He had a too cool for school attitude during that time.

paisleyparkgirl said:

I can't see Prince singing BAD with Michael Jackson. He had a too cool for school attitude during that time.

This is why you know the Prince version of "Bad" had to have been something else.

The sheer audacity of wanting him to sing as MJ's session side-man over a Quincy beat coupled with the unabashed tepid-ness of the track. Like who the F.... He probably warped the guitar fret he was playing with such fire.

I had heard most of them before, but the one about being backstage at a Bad Tour concert in 1988 was new to me.

There is a story that Prince really liked the "Earth song" and the History album.

of course Prince liked History. It was the first time in like four decades worth of MJ's career he didn't put out yet another contrived cookie-cutter album for the masses, dude actually reached down deep and delivered something from his soul. Who knew Mikey had it in him? Guarantee Prince wouldn't dare play the bass in MJ's face the night he checked that album out. Probably regretted trying to run him down with his car and everything.

WhisperingDandelions said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

ShellyMcG said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

of course Prince liked History. It was the first time in like four decades worth of MJ's career he didn't put out yet another contrived cookie-cutter album for the masses, dude actually reached down deep and delivered something from his soul. Who knew Mikey had it in him? Guarantee Prince wouldn't dare play the bass in MJ's face the night he checked that album out. Probably regretted trying to run him down with his car and everything.

He tried to run Michael Jackson down with his car?!?!

It's an urban legend that he was so upset that Michael had set him up at that infamous James Brown concert, that he tried to run him down with his car afterwards.

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LoveGalore said:

OTW, Thriller, and Bad are cookie cutter...? The fuck kind of cookies were you eating?

...Is this a joke?

You can absolutely enjoy those albums top-to-bottom, but don't delude yourself into thinking because something's enjoyable it isn't contrived, cookie-cutter, or blatantly pandering to the mainstream pallet.

Maybe if your 80s record shelf consisted of only those three MJ albums, Madonna's first three albums, a couple Lionel Richie solo albums and two copies of Purple Rain... This is the same decade that birthed goth, thrash, house, hip-hop, made strides with new wave, made strives with funk and R&B. Compared to, say, Sexual Harassment's "I Need a Freak" or Anne Clark's "Sleeper in Metropolis", them kinda cookies, then uh, ya, MJ's sesame-street sing-a-longs are indeed cookie-cutter, without even bringing Prince's albums into the equation, which no matter how enjoyable/fun they may be always had moments of weirdness or left-field tapestry.

Ranking Bad highly is where MJ stans truly go off the deep end, however. Thriller I can understanding getting in your feelings a bit, but Bad, are you f'n kidding me? Bad makes New Power Soul look like Innervisions.


and we don't even need to compare MJ to others. Compare MJ to MJ. Bad vs. HIStory. You really can't tell how one is contrived and the other has a genuine sense of purpose/emotion behind it?

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ShellyMcG said:

He tried to run Michael Jackson down with his car?!?!

paisleyparkgirl said:

It's an urban legend that he was so upset that Michael had set him up at that infamous James Brown concert, that he tried to run him down with his car afterwards.

Dunno how "urban" of a legend it is unless that's some kind of off-color remark in February of all months, but Quincy Jones alleged this in an interview with GQ. This isn't something that was spread via campfire or a game of telephone or anyhing.

https://www.gq.com/story/...as-a-story

WhisperingDandelions said:

ShellyMcG said:

He tried to run Michael Jackson down with his car?!?!

paisleyparkgirl said:

It's an urban legend that he was so upset that Michael had set him up at that infamous James Brown concert, that he tried to run him down with his car afterwards.

Dunno how "urban" of a legend it is unless that's some kind of off-color remark in February of all months, but Quincy Jones alleged this in an interview with GQ. This isn't something that was spread via campfire or a game of telephone or anyhing.

https://www.gq.com/story/...as-a-story

That's why it falls under "urban legend" for me. I don't believe anything that comes out of Quincy's mouth and I believe he wanted to "be starting something".

WhisperingDandelions said:

LoveGalore said:

OTW, Thriller, and Bad are cookie cutter...? The fuck kind of cookies were you eating?

...Is this a joke?

You can absolutely enjoy those albums top-to-bottom, but don't delude yourself into thinking because something's enjoyable it isn't contrived, cookie-cutter, or blatantly pandering to the mainstream pallet.

Maybe if your 80s record shelf consisted of only those three MJ albums, Madonna's first three albums, a couple Lionel Richie solo albums and two copies of Purple Rain... This is the same decade that birthed goth, thrash, house, hip-hop, made strides with new wave, made strives with funk and R&B. Compared to, say, Sexual Harassment's "I Need a Freak" or Anne Clark's "Sleeper in Metropolis", them kinda cookies, then uh, ya, MJ's sesame-street sing-a-longs are indeed cookie-cutter, without even bringing Prince's albums into the equation, which no matter how enjoyable/fun they may be always had moments of weirdness or left-field tapestry.

Ranking Bad highly is where MJ stans truly go off the deep end, however. Thriller I can understanding getting in your feelings a bit, but Bad, are you f'n kidding me? Bad makes New Power Soul look like Innervisions.


and we don't even need to compare MJ to others. Compare MJ to MJ. Bad vs. HIStory. You really can't tell how one is contrived and the other has a genuine sense of purpose/emotion behind it?

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100 % and according to Cat, Prince actually told Michael in 1987, that Off the Wall was the last MJ album he enjoyed.

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So, like i said, "Lavaux" was an homage to Michael Jackson, in the vein of "Shake Your Body" after his untimely passing.

Quite possibly correct.

Might not be.

Sounds logical to me, though!

WhisperingDandelions said:

of course Prince liked History. It was the first time in like four decades worth of MJ's career he didn't put out yet another contrived cookie-cutter album for the masses, dude actually reached down deep and delivered something from his soul. Who knew Mikey had it in him? Guarantee Prince wouldn't dare play the bass in MJ's face the night he checked that album out. Probably regretted trying to run him down with his car and everything.

From memory, this was dismissed by Bobby Z, who was there.

rap said:

ShellyMcG said:

rap said:

From memory, this was dismissed by Bobby Z, who was there.

Yeah that sounds a bit far fetched. I've seen stories about Prince treating his bandmates and even his wife pretty terribly but I can't imagine him out there trying to murder Michael Jackson. It just doesn't make any sense at all.

Let's say this was true, it doesn't sound like he was trying to "murder" anyone but more like trying to intimidate him.

purplethunder3121 said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

MrSharon said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I know this story is fake but it sounds like it could be true. Let's not forget when prince had dinner with Quincy and MJ to discuss the recording of BAD It was said the 2 singers just sat at the table,barely talking and mostly stairing at each other Prince gave MJ a box with feathers and a tape with some weird sound effects and voices (in my mind it's the audio recording of prince saying "if u believe he will forgive u and backwards dance electric vocals)

Anna Fantastic said that he had dinner with Michael and she asked him if the chimp was there and we know Anna was around from 88-90.

LoveGalore said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

of course Prince liked History. It was the first time in like four decades worth of MJ's career he didn't put out yet another contrived cookie-cutter album for the masses, dude actually reached down deep and delivered something from his soul. Who knew Mikey had it in him? Guarantee Prince wouldn't dare play the bass in MJ's face the night he checked that album out. Probably regretted trying to run him down with his car and everything.

OTW, Thriller, and Bad are cookie cutter...? The fuck kind of cookies were you eating?

Thriller is like a Disney soundtrack and Bad is DOA or me because of the title track alone.

rockford said:

LoveGalore said:

WhisperingDandelions said: OTW, Thriller, and Bad are cookie cutter...? The fuck kind of cookies were you eating?

Thriller is like a Disney soundtrack and Bad is DOA or me because of the title track alone.

MJ's music post 1979 is for kids that's why he's so popular, that being said, Dirty Diana, Give into me, Earth song and Stranger in Moscow are amazing.

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paisleyparkgirl said:

MrSharon said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

MJ's music post 1979 is for kids that's why he's so popular, that being said, Dirty Diana, Give into me Earth song and Stranger in Moscow are amazing.

What about "Morphine"?

I don't like it.