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Don't Let Him Fool Ya What's really up with this song? When it first leaked, I thought it was for sure a Dirty Mind outtake. But when the pics of the reels on the 1999 SDE seemingly confirmed it being from the 1999 sessions, I figured it was case closed. But I think of it every time I hear the song again. This just doesn't sound like it's from 1982. It doesn't make sense that it would be from 1982 in any way. Don't Let Him Fool Ya has every single hallmark of the Dirty Mind era songs. Specific, wet, live drum sound, not using the Linn ✔️ Nasal falsetto ✔️ Synth sounds similar to Do It All Night ✔️ Simple lyric structure ✔️ Vocal flourishes used ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY during the DM sessions ✔️ Please go back and drop Don't Let Him Fool Ya into your Dirty Mind playlist. I like it after When U Were Mine or Gotta Broken Heart Again. It fits on this album like a hand in a glove though I'd see why it could potentially be left off. I know Don Batts has confirmed his presence during it's recording. I know it says what it says on the reels. But it just doesn't sound right at all and Prince so very rarely ever backtracked and did new songs in an old style (When The Dawn of the Morning Comes feels like one example of an outlier to this rule). Thoughts? | |
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idk if ur conspiracy is right or wrong but this song is great |
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lustmealways said: idk if ur conspiracy is right or wrong but this song is great Listen to it along with DM songs. Tell me it doesn't fit in every way? | |
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It's very possible he started it in the Dirty Mind era and then went back to it later on. He was known to do that with a great many of his songs over the years.
I would also challenge that the 1979 recording for "I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man" is also from the 1982 era. Play it back to back with "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" - the same sound, the same vibe, the same drum fills...Just because they found it labeled 1979 doesn't mean it really is. Prince was messy with his own archives. LOL “To create something from nothing is one of the greatest feelings, and I would – I don’t know, I wish it upon everybody. It’s heaven.” – Prince |
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Duane Tudahl once said in one interview (can't recall which) that some of the tapes in the vault were undated... So yes, it's hard to know for sure.
Interestingly, the mix itself sounds post-1982 to me... There is a little bit of gated reverb on the drums (non-linear reverb setting from an AMS RMX-16 unit), which was part of Prince's mid-1980s sound and features on songs like "Kiss"... not to mention, quite trendy in 1980s music.
Duane's last book mentioned a mix of "Don't Let Him Fool Ya" being done in May 1985. So it's possible the master mix used for 1999 Deluxe was that very mix. | |
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Don't let him fool ya, hey hey hey hey hey.
Good song ! |
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There are two versions of this song. The original was indeed recorded in 1982. And then put on a shelf.
In 1987 Prince took it out and revamped it and that's the version we can hear now.
Not much conspiracy there. Just WIP ;o) | |
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Chastity said: There are two versions of this song. The original was indeed recorded in 1982. And then put on a shelf.
In 1987 Prince took it out and revamped it and that's the version we can hear now.
Not much conspiracy there. Just WIP ;o) What on Earth are you talking about? Why would they include a 1987 version on 1999 Deluxe. Oh and there's no 1987 version by the way. There's apparently a 1985 version. [Edited 3/18/23 11:22am] |
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To me, the keyboards feel very much like the 1999 era. Structurally, the song is similar to Dirty Mind stuff though, so maybe it was written at that time, but recorded in 82? | |
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Chastity said: There are two versions of this song. The original was indeed recorded in 1982. And then put on a shelf.
In 1987 Prince took it out and revamped it and that's the version we can hear now.
Not much conspiracy there. Just WIP ;o) That's interesting. The version we have doesn't sound like a 1987 reworking. I will have listen again bearing that in mind. The reworking of Yah U know does have that 1986 sound to it. Would be interesting to compare the two. [Edited 3/25/23 5:50am] Something BIG Is Coming. |
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