eduJ said:

I always felt like the fashion during PR wasn't all that inspired actually. Not that different from Sgt Pepper's, Paul Revere & the Raiders, Adam Ant, and other new romantics before. Now Sheila's Romance 1600 attire and art direction was a definite nod/play on Amadeus. I think she even said as much in some interview.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. He already had some of the ruffles and lace in his clothing, but it took hold with Sheila's attire for that album. And actually, The Family had a modern Mozart approach with their look: silk, satin, luxury, wealth, etc.

eduJ said:

FrankieCoco1 said:

https://youtu.be/514dDskbh38 Marie France talks about the Purple Rain costume designs in this clip…no mention of the film Mozart, and haven’t found any link.

Psst: you won't.

LoveGalore said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn´t Prince that mentioned that part in the movie where they asked Mozart to play less notes as an example of how executives should leave artists alone to create?

ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

It was such a powerful movie (and play).

The brash, young musical genius with all the arrogance of knowing he was the best in the world.

Plus all the ruffle-ly Edwardian suits and towering powdered hairdos.

Do you think it had any impact on Prince right around he was putting together PURPLE RAIN??

Amadeus is also a work of historical fiction. Mozart's real life had little to nothing to do with that movie/play. It was entertaining, though.

LoveGalore said:

rockford said:

LoveGalore said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

. Some days I feel like the org bends over backwards to prove Prince ain't shit. But he really was.

Racism yeah i've said it.

im not trying to say prince didnt do anything important or influential.

i just dont think PR was the first music biopic!

i mean, seriously, you dont think prince saw or knew about (if he didnt actually see) lady sings the blues? or elvis which was in 1979? or funny girl? or more likely, a star is born, the 70s version, which isnt about an actual artist, but is basically a classic rise-of-a-musician story.

prince def made one of the most succesful music biopics, but was he the first? nope. was it even one of the best? idk.

either way, im sure prince knew plenty of music movies, he knew and liked the idolmaker, which his own bandmates have said.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

im not trying to say prince didnt do anything important or influential.

i just dont think PR was the first music biopic!

i mean, seriously, you dont think prince saw or knew about (if he didnt actually see) lady sings the blues? or elvis which was in 1979? or funny girl? or more likely, a star is born, the 70s version, which isnt about an actual artist, but is basically a classic rise-of-a-musician story.

prince def made one of the most succesful music biopics, but was he the first? nope. was it even one of the best? idk.

either way, im sure prince knew plenty of music movies, he knew and liked the idolmaker, which his own bandmates have said.

I think most of us understand that there were music biopics before PR.

Also that Amadeus is based on a fictional 1979 play that in turn was inspired by an 1830s play by Pushkin and an 1897 opera that were inspired by rumours of a rivalry between Mozart and Salieri that all include the almost certainly false myth that Salieri poisoned Mozart. Hence it is a biopic despite the fact that is is mostly fiction. In the same way that "300" is still a historical action film even though it is based on a Miller comic series, not the actual history of the Battle of Thermopylae.

Now most biopics and historical action films must have a degree of fictionalisation and differing levels of "artistic licence", so none are completely true. Also, many fictional stories draw on actual events and influences on the author. This does not mean they are biopics. PR, unlike Amadeus, is not a biopic. It is Prince playing a fictional character that he wrote and portrayed as a different person from himself that merely draws on his past and influences.

On the OP's question. No PR was not influenced by Amadeus because Prince cannot have seen it before he started making PR even if they started filming Amadeus before PR started filming.

youre right, i mean in many ways, PR is more like the films elvis made like blue hawaii or jailhouse rock.

onlyforaminute said:

Given how silly and frivolous that guy was in the movie I can see why Prince wasn't fully flattered. That guy died broke and was thrown into a mass grave. Yeah I don't see that being charming to a 20-something year old. [Edited 2/27/23 15:03pm]

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- I read that Amadeus had some things that were fiction, but he seemed to indeed have this silly side. It seems he wrote a piece called ´Kiss my ass´ (that´s very Prince) and made some silly jokes in letters. Anyway, it´s a fantastic movie and I saw it at a very young age and loved it even without knowing nothing about Mozart´s music.

GustavoRibas said:

onlyforaminute said:

GustavoRibas said:

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- I read that Amadeus had some things that were fiction, but he seemed to indeed have this silly side. It seems he wrote a piece called ´Kiss my ass´ (that´s very Prince) and made some silly jokes in letters. Anyway, it´s a fantastic movie and I saw it at a very young age and loved it even without knowing nothing about Mozart´s music.

Yeah I know the movie didn't reflect the real person but it's the character in that ppl point to as being similar to Prince, especially during that time. That character, while humorous, was still frivolous and silly, the combination is basically highly immature in certain basic aspects of his life that needed his father to attend to. A highly prideful 20-something yo may not be impressed with such a comparison regardless of the musical genius aspects.

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- Ahh yeah, I didnt notice you were talking about the comparisson with Prince. Sorry.

Prince indeed had lots of sense of humour, but he wasnt frivolous or silly.

onlyforaminute said:

I heard Bobby Z reference in some interview that Prince saw and liked the movie Amadeus. I'll see if I can find it and share a link...

ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

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Plus all the ruffle-ly Edwardian suits.....

Edwardian?????

langebleu said:

ExTAFKASoladeo1 said:

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Plus all the ruffle-ly Edwardian suits.....

Edwardian?????

I'd somehow overlooked that.

Edwardian refers to the early 1900s, when King Edward ruled England. I'm not sure Prince's outfits in Purple Rain were Edwardian. And even if they were, that wouldn't associate them with Mozart. Edwardian fashion was from 100 years after Mozart died.

lurker316 said:

langebleu said:

Edwardian?????

I'd somehow overlooked that.

Edwardian refers to the early 1900s, when King Edward ruled England. I'm not sure Prince's outfits in Purple Rain were Edwardian. And even if they were, that wouldn't associate them with Mozart. Edwardian fashion was from 100 years after Mozart died.

Yes.

The style of dress adopted by Prince during the Purple Rain era would not be described as Edwardian

langebleu said:

lurker316 said:

I'd somehow overlooked that.

Edwardian refers to the early 1900s, when King Edward ruled England. I'm not sure Prince's outfits in Purple Rain were Edwardian. And even if they were, that wouldn't associate them with Mozart. Edwardian fashion was from 100 years after Mozart died.

Yes.

The style of dress adopted by Prince during the Purple Rain era would not be described as Edwardian

Try Regency.

https://cdnhistorybits.wo...-to-1830s/

Prince probably saw every movie that the rest of us saw, but it ruins the mystique to think of Prince sitting around watching movies.

Se7en said: