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Thread started 12/29/22 4:53pm

Monarch

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Did “She gave her angels” have a story behind it?

After watching the Muppets performance it makes you think it had something to do with death or loosing a loved one. I believe the song was written before his son was born & I’ve read it may have been intended for a children’s album.
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Reply #1 posted 12/29/22 5:38pm

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According to Princevault

Specific recording dates are not known, but the track is believed to have been recorded in Spring 1996 at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota. The song was planned for inclusion on the 1996 children’s album Happy Tears (announced during a press release focusing on Mayte’s pregnancy), which led to its exclusion from Emancipation, compiled at around the same time. The songs occurrence on the Muppets Tonight TV show, recorded on 28 October 1996, was added on Prince’s request, after his son, born with Pfeiffer Syndrome passed away a week after his birth.

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Reply #2 posted 12/29/22 7:08pm

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If Prince Vault is correct on the date that the Muppet Show was filmed (October 28th), the show was recorded less than a week after Amiir had died.

I guess going to work was healing for him although I'm not sure it was for his wife.

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Reply #3 posted 12/29/22 7:34pm

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laytonian said:

If Prince Vault is correct on the date that the Muppet Show was filmed (October 28th), the show was recorded less than a week after Amiir had died.

I guess going to work was healing for him although I'm not sure it was for his wife.

I don't know how he did it. It's hard for me to watch the Muppet show, the Oprah interview and I wasn't even the one who experienced it.

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Reply #4 posted 12/30/22 1:36pm

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All those stories are not what I've heard. Prince mentioned them being in a church for something - his fathers funeral, their wedding, I forget - and half the seats were empty. And Mayte said, "that's for the angels" or something.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #5 posted 12/30/22 4:29pm

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All those stories are not what I've heard. Prince mentioned them being in a church for something - his fathers funeral, their wedding, I forget - and half the seats were empty. And Mayte said, "that's for the angels" or something.


Yes. I can't remember the exact wording but it seems associated with the purposely-empty pews at their wedding.
Mayte wasn't around for John L's funeral; he was married to Manuela at that time.

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Reply #6 posted 12/30/22 4:30pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

laytonian said:

If Prince Vault is correct on the date that the Muppet Show was filmed (October 28th), the show was recorded less than a week after Amiir had died.

I guess going to work was healing for him although I'm not sure it was for his wife.

I don't know how he did it. It's hard for me to watch the Muppet show, the Oprah interview and I wasn't even the one who experienced it.


He doesn't een look "right" on those shows. His eyes are puffy and he doesn't have his swagger.

But like Morris Hayes said: "If his hair was on fire, he'd just put on a hat and keep going."

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Reply #7 posted 12/31/22 1:59am

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laytonian said:

If Prince Vault is correct on the date that the Muppet Show was filmed (October 28th), the show was recorded less than a week after Amiir had died.

I guess going to work was healing for him although I'm not sure it was for his wife.

I can recommend Mayte's book about her view on things. It is a well balanced and respectful read.

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Reply #8 posted 12/31/22 12:59pm

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dualboot said:

laytonian said:

If Prince Vault is correct on the date that the Muppet Show was filmed (October 28th), the show was recorded less than a week after Amiir had died.

I guess going to work was healing for him although I'm not sure it was for his wife.

I can recommend Mayte's book about her view on things. It is a well balanced and respectful read.


Absolutely. The most respectful book by an ex, ever,

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Reply #9 posted 12/31/22 1:28pm

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dualboot said:

laytonian said:

If Prince Vault is correct on the date that the Muppet Show was filmed (October 28th), the show was recorded less than a week after Amiir had died.

I guess going to work was healing for him although I'm not sure it was for his wife.

I can recommend Mayte's book about her view on things. It is a well balanced and respectful read.

Horrible book and very onesided. It made Prince look crazy as hell.

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Reply #10 posted 12/31/22 2:42pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

dualboot said:

I can recommend Mayte's book about her view on things. It is a well balanced and respectful read.

Horrible book and very onesided. It made Prince look crazy as hell.

For me it showed his bagage and how he handled things he could not control. It made him more human and certainly not crazy.

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Reply #11 posted 12/31/22 2:42pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

dualboot said:

I can recommend Mayte's book about her view on things. It is a well balanced and respectful read.

Horrible book and very onesided. It made Prince look crazy as hell.


Some people can't handle the truth.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #12 posted 12/31/22 3:03pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

dualboot said:

I can recommend Mayte's book about her view on things. It is a well balanced and respectful read.

Horrible book and very onesided. It made Prince look crazy as hell.


Gee, imagine that. A book where the other side is dead and someone complains about one-sided.

The "crazy as hell" part begins when Larry "It's not me you're talking to" Graham steps into the picture and takes advantage of man at a vulnerable tim in his life. Using religion to get rid of a wife and isntall a new one? Yeah....that's holy work.

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Reply #13 posted 12/31/22 3:26pm

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laytonian said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

Horrible book and very onesided. It made Prince look crazy as hell.


Gee, imagine that. A book where the other side is dead and someone complains about one-sided.


A book whose author waited until the other party was dead to release it.

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Reply #14 posted 12/31/22 4:12pm

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laytonian said:

dualboot said:

I can recommend Mayte's book about her view on things. It is a well balanced and respectful read.


Absolutely. The most respectful book by an ex, ever,


Agreed.

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #15 posted 12/31/22 4:14pm

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dualboot said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

Horrible book and very onesided. It made Prince look crazy as hell.

For me it showed his bagage and how he handled things he could not control. It made him more human and certainly not crazy.


Well said, dualboot. I'm not sure how someone would walk away from the book thinking it "made Prince look crazy as hell." Unless one had a very specific image of Prince and the book didn't quite portray him that way.

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #16 posted 12/31/22 9:14pm

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laytonian said:

The "crazy as hell" part begins when Larry "It's not me you're talking to" Graham steps into the picture and takes advantage of man at a vulnerable tim in his life. Using religion to get rid of a wife and isntall a new one?


That part. Her talking about the Sinbad show incident added a new level of cringe to it all.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #17 posted 12/31/22 10:41pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

laytonian said:

The "crazy as hell" part begins when Larry "It's not me you're talking to" Graham steps into the picture and takes advantage of man at a vulnerable tim in his life. Using religion to get rid of a wife and isntall a new one?


That part. Her talking about the Sinbad show incident added a new level of cringe to it all.

I watched the Sinbad show and it wasn't as crazy as she described. She clearly had an agenda. Worst book ever.

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Reply #18 posted 12/31/22 11:04pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

TrivialPursuit said:


That part. Her talking about the Sinbad show incident added a new level of cringe to it all.

I watched the Sinbad show and it wasn't as crazy as she described. She clearly had an agenda. Worst book ever.


You're a bit biased and weird anyway with stuff like this, so I expect that response. But you can't speak to what's in someone's head. Take off those purple-tinted glasses and watch it again. It was good until they started preaching, and even Sinbad sat there, wondering where to go with it. Prince was Larry's puppet for far too long (which means anything more than a millisecond).

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #19 posted 01/01/23 8:06am

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TrivialPursuit said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I watched the Sinbad show and it wasn't as crazy as she described. She clearly had an agenda. Worst book ever.


You're a bit biased and weird anyway with stuff like this, so I expect that response. But you can't speak to what's in someone's head. Take off those purple-tinted glasses and watch it again. It was good until they started preaching, and even Sinbad sat there, wondering where to go with it. Prince was Larry's puppet for far too long (which means anything more than a millisecond).

You're the one who's biased. Prince actually needed Larry at that time and what he (larry) said during the interview was typical of religious folks, nothing too out there but the way she described it, you'd think he was talking nonsense and that everyone was shocked etc.

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Reply #20 posted 01/01/23 8:36am

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paisleyparkgirl said:

TrivialPursuit said:


You're a bit biased and weird anyway with stuff like this, so I expect that response. But you can't speak to what's in someone's head. Take off those purple-tinted glasses and watch it again. It was good until they started preaching, and even Sinbad sat there, wondering where to go with it. Prince was Larry's puppet for far too long (which means anything more than a millisecond).

You're the one who's biased. Prince actually needed Larry at that time and what he (larry) said during the interview was typical of religious folks, nothing too out there but the way she described it, you'd think he was talking nonsense and that everyone was shocked etc.

I can see that he needed someone to give him guidance. In the end he was the one to roll with whomever came to the table.

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Reply #21 posted 01/01/23 10:49am

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Well I am one of those crazy religious folk & I understand Prince was in a vulnerable position & fell for a pseudo christian cult. Yes the Sinbad interview was hard to watch & Mayte was sitting there loosing her husband right in front of her eyes. I don’t think he was crazy, I think he was in pain & was grasping @ anything that would give him hope.
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Reply #22 posted 01/01/23 4:09pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

You're the one who's biased. Prince actually needed Larry at that time


BBWWHAHAHAHA OKAY THEN!

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #23 posted 01/01/23 5:36pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

laytonian said:

The "crazy as hell" part begins when Larry "It's not me you're talking to" Graham steps into the picture and takes advantage of man at a vulnerable tim in his life. Using religion to get rid of a wife and isntall a new one?


That part. Her talking about the Sinbad show incident added a new level of cringe to it all.


After I read her book, I rewatched the Sinbad show. She was actually gentle compared to the head-snap that Pirnce did when Larry & Tina started preaching.

If anyone wants to know about Larry: notice how the estate/Paisley Park has shunned him since Prince's death. Total user for years, living for free, indoctrinating a vulnerable man THEN turned Judas to the investigators after he died.

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Reply #24 posted 01/01/23 5:39pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

You're the one who's biased. Prince actually needed Larry at that time


BBWWHAHAHAHA OKAY THEN!


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