I was waiting to hear what you thought of Emancipation - it was the album that turned me and a few friends into proper fans after years of being a casual listener. I thought you might mention some of the ballads on Disc 2 like One Kiss At a Time or Soul Sanctuary. The album does get a bit of hate on here, which I think is unwarranted. There are also 10 or so very good songs that didn't make the final cut!
Btw, Chaos & Disorder was a contractual obligation album - he certainly didn't put his heart and soul into it. And going back to Come - there are better versions of songs from that album out there, including two incredible, and very different versions of title track. | |
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I was waiting to hear what you thought of Emancipation - it was the album that turned me and a few friends into proper fans after years of being a casual listener. I thought you might mention some of the ballads on Disc 2 like One Kiss At a Time or Soul Sanctuary. The album does get a bit of hate on here, which I think is unwarranted. There are also 10 or so very good songs that didn't make the final cut!
Btw, Chaos & Disorder was a contractual obligation album - he certainly didn't put his heart and soul into it. And going back to Come - there are better versions of songs from that album out there, including two incredible, and very different versions of title track. Thanks for the info, I'll look into those alternate versions of Come. As for Emancipation, there are literally too many songs to mention . I feel like I could have listed about 20-25 songs. | |
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The Undertaker Bit of a weird one, this. It could just be the version of the album I got but the sound quality is weird. It's like it's too loud even if I turn the volume down. That being said, I'm not usually a big fan of heavy guitars and all that but this is actually pretty good, all things considered. The Ride goes on a bit long for my liking but it's a really good song regardless. Honky Tonk Woman is another one I enjoyed a lot. And of course, Bambi. I still prefer the version on the Prince album but this version is nice too. A lot of Prince's music so far has been outside my comfort zone and this is no exception. In fact, I think this is the furthest I've been outside my comfort zone. But like I said, I liked it. I'm glad it was relatively short though because I'm not sure how much more I could withstand | |
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And from 1994 you have 1 800 New Funk, which is compilation album.
https://www.google.com/se...0+new+funk And in 1998 you have The War by Prince + NPG - a 26 minute live track. https://www.google.com/se...ce+the+war [Edited 10/26/22 3:05am] [Edited 10/26/22 3:06am] - I don't proof read. Dael with it. | |
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Bonnie Raitt's original version of I Can't Make You Love Me is by far the best one, imo. Prince cluelessly turned a heartbreaking song into just another song about sex. | |
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PJMcGee said: Bonnie Raitt's original version of I Can't Make You Love Me is by far the best one, imo. Prince cluelessly turned a heartbreaking song into just another song about sex. Having now heard all 3 versions, I still prefer the George Michael one. | |
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Crystal Ball The first disc is excellent. Really enjoyed it from start to finish. 2Morrow may just be my favourite song on the whole album but everything here on disc one is at least good, most of it is very good. Things go very wrong on disc 2. It starts out ok. Interactive is a nice Endorphinmachine-esque song. But then everything up until Good Love is just not for me. So whereas everything on disc one is good, everything on disc 2 is bad with the exception of 2 songs. Disc 3 is similar to disc 2 in that I don't like most of it. Last Heart and The Ride being the only two songs on there that I actually do like. Just like with Emancipation, it's not fair to expect to like everything when there's so much material on offer. But there's more than enough here that I do like to give the overall album a thumbs up. | |
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Ha, disc 2 (most of the guitar driven songs on the set) is the only disc I still listen to of CB! | |
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ShellyMcG said: PJMcGee said: Bonnie Raitt's original version of I Can't Make You Love Me is by far the best one, imo. Prince cluelessly turned a heartbreaking song into just another song about sex. Having now heard all 3 versions, I still prefer the George Michael one. I'm not too familiar with George's version. | |
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Welp! The great thing is that although not every Prince album and song may "do it for you," there are soooooooooooo many that will! Happy listening travels! I can identify with you in a way... I was a rabid Prince fan up until the Gold Experience came out in the 90s, which I listened to over and over (probably drove my little kid crazy LOL) but then I wasn't up on any new Prince music until 2009, when I got addicted to his music again...and had such fun discovering all the years of albums I hadn't heard...and plenty of bootlegs as well! I did get to take my grown son to see Prince 13 times--the last time in a small club in 2014. A lifetime dream come true! Enjoy your musical Prince journey! "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Welp! The great thing is that although not every Prince album and song may "do it for you," there are sooooo many that will! Happy listening travels! I can identify with you in a way... I was a rabid Prince fan up until the Gold Experience came out in the 90s, which I listened to over and over (probably drove my little kid crazy LOL) but then I wasn't up on any new Prince music until 2009, when I got addicted to his music again...and had such fun discovering all the years of albums I hadn't heard...and plenty of bootlegs as well! I did get to take my grown son to see Prince 13 times--the last time in a small club in 2014. A lifetime dream come true! Enjoy your musical Prince journey! Hey, thanks. Unfortunately I never got to see Prince perform live. I know a couple of people who did see him though and both of them swear that he was the best live performer they'd ever seen. I always said I'd go see him if he ever played here again. But that never happened. And it's only now that I'm getting properly invested in his music that I realise how much I missed out. | |
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Crystal Ball is actually a 5CD set. The 3 discs were for people who only bought the album in stores. It's 3 discs of outtakes from old recordings (although "2morrow" was a new song, recorded after Mayte asked him to enter "studio rehab").
The Truth album info from Jan 1998. He made The Truth right after the loss of his son and Mayte said recently specifically the song "Comeback" was written for their child. (Mayte Interview with Irish Times.) This is the proper and actual follow-up to Emancipation.
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WhisperingDandelions said: Crystal Ball is actually a 5CD set. The 3 discs were for people who only bought the album in stores. It's 3 discs of outtakes from old recordings (although "2morrow" was a new song, recorded after Mayte asked him to enter "studio rehab").
The Truth album info from Jan 1998. He made The Truth right after the loss of his son and Mayte said recently specifically the song "Comeback" was written for their child. (Mayte Interview with Irish Times.) This is the proper and actual follow-up to Emancipation.
[Edited 10/27/22 0:06am] Thanks again for your help. I didn't know that The Truth was part of the Crystal Ball. I had them listed as separate albums. And I never even heard of Kamasutra so thanks for the heads up on that. | |
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no prob. Kamasutra was the Mayte/Prince wedding ceremony music. but after The Truth, you got,
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The Truth Another strange turn. Of all Prince's 90s stuff I've heard so far I was not expecting an acoustic album to follow it all. Not that I'm complaining though. It's a nice change of pace. I really like this one. Don't Play Me and Circle Of Amour being the two songs I think I'll be revisiting more often. I also like The Truth (song) but, and this is going to make me seem like a prude or something, I find the swearing to be completely unnecessary. Not just on this song but on most songs that he swears on. It sounds weird. Like it's too forced or something. I just don't associate Prince with "bad language", I suppose. But anyway, I really like the album overall. It's got a nice feel to it. The War I didn't know where to fit this in but I was curious about it. I think the overall message of the song probably goes over my head a bit. I might need to listen to it again. Maybe a few more times. It's almost hypnotic in a weird way. For some reason I was thinking about that old Fritz Lang movie "Metropolis" throughout. And I've never even seen that movie . When I get home from work tomorrow I'm going to draw myself a hot bath and listen to this one again. | |
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Think of the microchip as your smartphone. Every ten-year-old has one now! "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" | |
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I don't think you will hear Prince swear on another song in the rest of your listening journey. | |
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New Power Soul I don't know if this is a Prince album or a New Power Generation album. It's technically listed as New Power Generation but if Prince is singing on every song, shouldn't it at least be credited as a "Prince & The New Power Generation" album? Anyway, that's besides the point. I LOVE THIS ALBUM! I think I still rate The Gold Experience ahead of it as best 90s album (so far) but this one is absolutely fantastic. Until Your In My Arms Again and Freaks On This Side are perhaps the only two songs on here I don't love but I don't dislike them either. The One is another all time great ballad. Come On and the title track are just perfect. I've used the term "not my cup of tea" quite a bit during this journey through Prince's back catalogue. Well this album is exactly "my cup of tea". One thing I've come to realise over the past few weeks is that prior to listening to Prince, I was never really that into these kinds of soul songs. Now I find myself desperately hoping that each Prince album I listen to will have them. I've made a whole playlist with nothing but songs like Insatiable, Adore, If I Was Your Girlfriend and Scandalous. | |
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Such a fascinating journey you're on.
NPS gets a lot of hate, but there are gems on it. I was looking forward to you hearing The One. It's just so gorgeous. The video is worth seeking out as well. And the video for Come On is also amusing.
The hidden track at the end (track 49 on the CD), Wasted Kisses, is also genius.
Why he chose to release this one under the NPG moniker I've never been entirely sure. Exodus was for contractual reasons (check out his TV performances and interviews from that era, where he's wrapped a scarf around his face and called himself Tora Tora because Prince isn't supposed to be playing!). I'm guessing it was a musical decision, that this kind of funk album was an NPG project. But it was promoted at the time very much as a Prince (or "The Artist") album. | |
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Such a fascinating journey you're on.
NPS gets a lot of hate, but there are gems on it. I was looking forward to you hearing The One. It's just so gorgeous. The video is worth seeking out as well. And the video for Come On is also amusing.
The hidden track at the end (track 49 on the CD), Wasted Kisses, is also genius.
Why he chose to release this one under the NPG moniker I've never been entirely sure. Exodus was for contractual reasons (check out his TV performances and interviews from that era, where he's wrapped a scarf around his face and called himself Tora Tora because Prince isn't supposed to be playing!). I'm guessing it was a musical decision, that this kind of funk album was an NPG project. But it was promoted at the time very much as a Prince (or "The Artist") album. For the purposes of my ranking system, I'm going to include New Power Soul as a Prince album. I have it slightly below Emancipation based purely on Emancipation having more songs. Why is the video for The One not on Prince's YouTube channel? Or if it is, I couldn't find it. The only one I could find was uploaded by someone else and the picture quality is less than stellar. It is a beautiful video regardless. | |
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The Vault: Old Friends For Sale Another good album. The very beginning of the first track gave me a bit of a fright though and maybe that's why I really don't like that song now . Luckily, the rest of the album is pretty good. 5 Women is definitely my favourite song on here. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic Very, very good album. Some excellent songs on here and a few nice surprises too. I never knew Prince had a song with Gwen Stefani and I'm baffled as to how this song wasn't a huge hit. Hot With U, Man o'War, Baby Knows and Prettyman are all really great songs too but my absolute favourite song here is definitely The Greatest Romance Ever Sold. Brilliant video too. This whole album deserved a lot more success than it seemingly had. So this wraps up the 90s segment of my Prince journey and I have to say, I'm still very much enjoying the ride. The 80s stuff opened my eyes (and ears) to some music genres I've never listened to before and a lot of the 90s stuff has shown me a superior version of a lot of the music genres I was already a fan of. Next up is The Rainbow Children. All I know about this one is what my cousin has told me. Which was not complimentary but then again, she hates The Love Symbol too and I quite liked it so I'll make my own mind up. And I'm looking forward to kicking off this final period of Prince's officially released back catalogue. | |
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I'm not sure how's it listed for your listening journey, but Rave In2 the Joy Fantastic is a remix album of sorts that Prince's released himself a few months after Rave Un2. You will LOVE the extended version of The Greatest Romance on there. The first minute or so of it is actually spliced from the Adam & Eve remix of the song, which is also worth checking out. And there's a Jason Nevins remix that makes it dance friendly too. . There are also some other tracks on Rave In2 worth checking out. . Prince wanted to release So Far, So Pleased as a single but No Doubt's record company wouldn't allow it. He also guested on their song, Waiting Room. . Old Friends 4 Sale was the other album Prince handed over with Chaos & Disorder in 96 to fulfill his contract with them. Several of the tracks were supposed to be in the Julia Roberts/Nick Nolte musical I Love Trouble - but it ended up not being a musical when the director realised it was not a good idea for Nolte to be singing those Prince songs. Not sure why Warner chose to release it when they did. Seek out the unreleased original version of Old Friends 4 Sale.
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You should do The Chocolate Invasion (try to get the original tracklisting) and The Slaughterhouse first. They're both collections of tracks originally released to the NPG Music Club in 2000-2001. The Rainbow Children was also originally released to the NPG Music Club, after those other tracks were put out individually, much later in November 2001. [Edited 11/1/22 9:11am] | |
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Rave in2 the Joy Fantastic "remixed" by Prince. Sometimes for the remix generation you know it's like, "oh, remixed by who, Kanye? Diplo? It was the 90s right, maybe a Prodigy remix, P. Diddy and the Family featuring Mariah and Bone Thugz?" https://www.youtube.com/w...D4VA8PgRPw
But yeah, Rave in2 is a pretty substantial "remix"/reconstruction/rewrite where it deserves to be held in the same regard as the regular album proper. She's using the list on the main Wikipedia page, which throws stuff like this and the live albums into the abyss of separate wikis, yet includes all those various Greatest Hits compilation and Outtakes compilations listed with albums proper, surely they could be separate space header like they have all the NPG/Madhouse albums?... And of course, this can't be edited because of course some possessive Prince fan put locked the page on "Protection" so you gotta put in an application to be approved to make an edit or something. [Edited 11/1/22 9:17am] | |
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I'm not sure how's it listed for your listening journey, but Rave In2 the Joy Fantastic is a remix album of sorts that Prince's released himself a few months after Rave Un2. You will LOVE the extended version of The Greatest Romance on there. The first minute or so of it is actually spliced from the Adam & Eve remix of the song, which is also worth checking out. And there's a Jason Nevins remix that makes it dance friendly too. . There are also some other tracks on Rave In2 worth checking out. . Prince wanted to release So Far, So Pleased as a single but No Doubt's record company wouldn't allow it. He also guested on their song, Waiting Room. . Old Friends 4 Sale was the other album Prince handed over with Chaos & Disorder in 96 to fulfill his contract with them. Several of the tracks were supposed to be in the Julia Roberts/Nick Nolte musical I Love Trouble - but it ended up not being a musical when the director realised it was not a good idea for Nolte to be singing those Prince songs. Not sure why Warner chose to release it when they did. Seek out the unreleased original version of Old Friends 4 Sale.
[Edited 11/1/22 6:14am] I don't know about anyone else but I'd gladly pay good money to hear Nick Nolte attempt to sing Prince songs. That would be funny AF | |
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You should do The Chocolate Invasion (try to get the original tracklisting) and The Slaughterhouse first. They're both collections of tracks originally released to the NPG Music Club in 2000-2001. The Rainbow Children was also originally released to the NPG Music Club, after those other tracks were put out individually, much later in November 2001. [Edited 11/1/22 9:11am] Thanks, I'll check out The Slaughter House and The Chocolate Invasion tomorrow at work along with Rave In2 the Joy Fantastic. I may have a crap job that pays next to nothing but at least it affords me a lot of free time. And, speaking of which, I was playing Insatiable earlier today at my desk and one of the guys who works in the building walked in and instantly looked over and said "are you listening to Prince? I like it". Then he got in the elevator and I didn't see him again . | |
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Agree with all of that. | |
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Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic Hmm, I'm not sure about this one. Other than the remix of Greatest Romance, I don't really like the remixes on here. I think I prefer the original version of the album. Still, an interesting listen if nothing else. Plus, a whole new song with Beautiful Strange, which I liked as well. But yeah, the original album will be the one I'll stick with in future. The Slaughterhouse Pretty damn good collection of songs. Some are definitely better than others though. I really like Peace and S&M Groove. The version of the album I got might be a bit dodgy though because there's two songs with different titles and run times but sound identical. There's a song listed as "Silicon" and another listed as "Welcome To The Slaughterhouse". But like I said, both songs are the same with the only difference being that "Welcome To The Slaughterhouse" is about 30 seconds longer. No song by that name shows up on the tracklist on Wikipedia though so I don't know what the deal is with that. The Chocolate Invasion Another really nice collection. I prefer this to the Slaughterhouse album. When I Lay My Hands On You, Supercute and The Dance are great. This was a collection of standalone singles originally released online, right? Such a shame. These songs definitely deserved a proper release on a full studio album. I can imagine Supercute in particular being a big hit around the early 2000s. Next up is The Rainbow Children and One Night Alone. | |
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Supercute had a CD Single in April 2001 but it was only sold at concert dates. [Edited 11/2/22 13:11pm] | |
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I'd go with Rave Un2 as well. There's an alternative (original) version of Beautiful Strange on a video release of the same name. It was for promotion around the time of Newpower Soul, and features the oddity of Mel B/Scary Spice interviewing/flirting with Prince at Paisley Park, and some cool footage of a London late show, also featureing Chaka Khan and Larry Graham. . The Chocolate Invasion singles were initially only available to buy as CDs at concerts! A friend kindly got me Supercute at one. [Edited 11/3/22 6:46am] [Edited 11/3/22 9:34am] | |
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