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Ok, so I said not to listen to vault stuff yet but...
I never got on with the released version of Something in the Water - there is another version on Deluxe edition. But there is an even better version that has to be found by other means.
Also, International Lover I always liked but never loved - the early version on the Deluxe edition was a revelation for me.
What you won't find on the Deluxe edition, unfortunately, are two songs that were not included because of highly questionable lyrics (note that Prince chose never to release them) but are among the best of the era - Extraloveable (re-recorded with new lyrics in 2011) and Lust U Always.
And you're probably now ready to hear the opening two vault tracks from the Deluxe - Feel U Up and Irresistible Bitch. A sound that could have propelled entire careers of lesser mortals, but which Prince ditched before anyone even heard it. |
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IanRG said:
. I am also from Australia (still here). Controversy was played enough to chart, then 1999 and Purple Rain exploded here - to the point that the Syracuse concert was played on national TV - to the chagrin of my step father. I first started following Prince prior to Controversy through 2JJ (now Triple J) - The local regional ABC radio station would go to bed and we would get 2JJ over night. Also there were some late night music video shows that played him before Molly Meldrum pushed him on Countdown. Hey, whereabouts in Australia are you from? I was born in Ireland but we moved to Australia when I was 3. My parents still live in Sydney but I moved back to Ireland about 8 years ago now. I haven't been back home since but I'm hoping to go back next year to visit my folks. | |
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You're pretty awesome pulling out all the stops with the catalogue deep-dive like this.
This is a pretty awesome thread, like an org reaction case study in chronological order. Glad I relented trying to put you off the course with this undertaking, post #2 jazzz had it right all along. Though technically the Vanity 6/second Time records came out before 1999, so that may skew the quality-perspective because him going full-electro most of that album was like a big reveal, but you're probably right his solo albums generally have the most compelling/dynamic material anyway.
[Edited 10/12/22 1:40am] Hey, thanks for that. I'll add The Glamorous Life to the list. Busy day today  . I may just do two today and two tomorrow so I can give them enough breathing room. Plus, I keep going back to songs from previous albums. I haven't been able to get DMSR out of my head since yesterday . | |
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Blazing through all the albums and not sitting with them and figuring out what really moves a person is just the worst way to go about it and you guys are ruining this poor child. Nobody here blazed thru a guided tour. They absorbed the albums for years. They explored up and down the discography when and where it moved them. Not because it was assigned by a stranger who has tons of exposure to prince's music and an intimate relationship with why the music impacted them the way it did. Art is organic. Not a science. | |
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LoveGalore said: Blazing through all the albums and not sitting with them and figuring out what really moves a person is just the worst way to go about it and you guys are ruining this poor child. Nobody here blazed thru a guided tour. They absorbed the albums for years. They explored up and down the discography when and where it moved them. Not because it was assigned by a stranger who has tons of exposure to prince's music and an intimate relationship with why the music impacted them the way it did. Art is organic. Not a science. I understand where you're coming from and thank you for your advice. But rest assured, I'm not just blazing through the albums. I'm may only be posting my initial impressions here but I am revisiting each album in between. I listened to Dirty Mind again on the bus into work this morning, for example. I'll have plenty of time to fully absorb each album in the years ahead but right now I just want to hear everything I can. Once I've done that then I'll go back through the discography and explore things a bit more leisurely. I know my way of enveloping myself into tv shows, movie series', musical artists etc isn't everyone's cup of tea but it works for me. I like to experience everything before going back to digest it at my own pace. | |
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Back when Prince was still making new albums, i would listen to each album in order from 'For You' up until the new release's date. Took about a month or more "Whatever skin we're in
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Ok, so I've split the Purple Rain Quadrillogy into two parts. I listened to the boys today and I'll listen to the girls tomorrow. First up today was Purple Rain, the album, and continuing the trend of each album bettering the predecessor, this absolutely delivered. Every single song is a 10 out of 10 for me. Not one exception. I can't even pick out any highlights because they're all highlights. So instead, I'll just mention two songs that I wasn't so familiar with before but definitely left an impression on me. Darling Nikki and The Beautiful Ones. Wow. Just... Wow. As much as I loved the last few albums, Purple Rain is easily my favourite so far and I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that it won't be beaten. After that I checked out Ice Cream Castles by The Time. Maybe I was still on that purple high but I really love this one too. Chili Sauce is the only low point on the album for me but when you have Jungle Love (I'm seriously addicted to this song right now) and The Bird, one blip is forgiveable. If The Kid Can't Make You Come is amazing too. I never heard that one before. This is the last Time album for a while, which is a shame because I feel like they were just reaching their peak with this. It will be interesting to see how Pandemonium stands up to this. But that's for the future. Tomorrow I'll be listening to Sheila E's The Glamorous Life and Appolonia 6. I might sneak in Around The World In A Day as well. It will be Purple Rain on repeat for the rest of today though. | |
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. About 100 miles / 160 km from Sydney, although I work in Sydney a lot of the time. I have a cousin born in Australia who moved to County Clare (Lisdoonvarna) |
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LoveGalore said: Blazing through all the albums and not sitting with them and figuring out what really moves a person is just the worst way to go about it and you guys are ruining this poor child.
Nobody here blazed thru a guided tour. They absorbed the albums for years. They explored up and down the discography when and where it moved them. Not because it was assigned by a stranger who has tons of exposure to prince's music and an intimate relationship with why the music impacted them the way it did. Art is organic. Not a science. . Hence my advice to start with Sign O the Times and listen to that one at least 5 times (metaphorically speaking)... I had hoped that that suggestion would give a clue for the other albums to follow. But maybe 7 times would have been more appropriate in this case. I understand that in your world, there is always a better way to go than the things other people do/suggest/propose. But as far as I'm reading this thread, Shelly is thoroughly enjoying herself and starting to become a true lover of Prince's music. Why spoil that enthousiasm with a wagging finger?? Is criticism equal to art? [edited: Emmy >> Shelly, sorry for that  ][Edited 10/14/22 2:25am] |
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jazzz said: LoveGalore said: Blazing through all the albums and not sitting with them and figuring out what really moves a person is just the worst way to go about it and you guys are ruining this poor child. Nobody here blazed thru a guided tour. They absorbed the albums for years. They explored up and down the discography when and where it moved them. Not because it was assigned by a stranger who has tons of exposure to prince's music and an intimate relationship with why the music impacted them the way it did. Art is organic. Not a science. . Hence my advice to start with Sign O the Times and listen to that one at least 5 times (metaphorically speaking)... I had hoped that that suggestion would give a clue for the other albums to follow. But maybe 7 times would have been more appropriate in this case. I understand that in your world, there is always a better way to go than the things other people do/suggest/propose. But as far as I'm reading this thread, Emmy is thoroughly enjoying herself and starting to become a true lover of Prince's music. Why spoil that enthousiasm with a wagging finger?? Is criticism equal to art? Art is as much about the wagging finger as the brush itself. | |
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It's not the 70's anymore. It's a binge-watch culture. This thread is apropos for the date in which it was posted.
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noice, next era is a trilogy again fyi.
Around the World in a Day The Family full album by The Family. Prince's first collaborations with lifelong collaborators Eric Leeds on horns and Claire Fischer on orchestra. "The Screams of Passion" is in my top 3 or 4 Prince tracks. Sheila E. in Romance 1600 LP. details
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Ok, I'm just going to come right out and say it. That Appolonia album was bad. Sex Shooter got my hopes up but the rest of the album did absolutely nothing for me. Not one I'll be revisiting, I don't think. Sheila E's The Glamorous Life was pretty good though. But why are there only 6 songs on some of these albums? The Time albums also have just 6 songs. Yesterday's main event was Around The World In A Day. The only song I had previously heard was Raspberry Beret so almost everything here was new to me. Very strong album but very different to the previous ones. It's like everything up to and including 1999 was a progression of a certain style. Then Purple Rain was this other thing entirely. And then Around The World In A Day comes along and changes things up even more. And that's not a bad thing. Just different. Paisley Park and Pop Life were my favourite songs here. Overall, a good album but it's the first time I feel that Prince hasn't improved upon his prior work. I closed out the day with The Family. High Fashion had me hooked immediately! What a song. Mutiny was another strong song and then Screams Of Passion came along and made itself one of my favourite songs on this Prince journey so far. The rest of the album didn't really grab me the way these opening 3 tracks did though. Also, is it just me or does the girl on the front of the album look a little like Brittany Murphy in that picture? Anyway, Parade later today and I think I'll watch that Cherry Moon movie too. It's probably crap but I might as well go all in | |
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The girl on the The Family cover does really have cool "look" on that cover. She's actually was his girlfriend (at that specific time). Sometimes the org goes lite on the gossip-y tea type stuff, but it's pertinent to the story/songs in some ways. If he's writing stuff like "Screams of Passion" and another one you got coming up around the corner for her, anyway..., [Edited 10/14/22 1:54am] |
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Please keep up with these diary entries - I want to see the whole progression up to recent releases!
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WhisperingDandelions said: The girl on the The Family cover does really have cool "look" on that cover. She's actually was his girlfriend (at that specific time). Sometimes the org goes lite on the gossip-y tea type stuff, but it's pertinent to the story/songs in some ways. If he's writing stuff like "Screams of Passion" and another one you got coming up around the corner for her, anyway..., [Edited 10/14/22 1:54am] You seem to have a lot of insight for someone so new to the franchise. | |
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My sincerest apologies for not getting into Prince before the age of 14. He was very happening in the late 90s/early 00s, his pop cultural zenith if he ever had one, right.
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1987, a banner year comin' up, This is really the moment where you choose your own journey. |
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that FAMILY album is one of the best things prince ever did .. eye rate it as highly as anything in his golden zone (1999-SOTT) .. if u love that u will love Parade .. | |
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WhisperingDandelions said:
My sincerest apologies for not getting into Prince before the age of 14. He was very happening in the late 90s/early 00s, his pop cultural zenith if he ever had one, right.
I'm in to my 5th soul now so that means I discovered him when I was 320. But I meant to tag Shelly. [Edited 10/14/22 7:46am] | |
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I love the Family. Such interesting project. Too bad St Paul left the group. |
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i just read up to that part in Tudahl's book where he explains that the only actual song The Family recorded together was "For Love" which was released intentionally on the Jill Jones album. Jellybean on drums, Paul on bass, Prince on guitar, and, of course, Eric on sax. Soooo funky!!! "Whatever skin we're in
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LoveGalore said: WhisperingDandelions said:
My sincerest apologies for not getting into Prince before the age of 14. He was very happening in the late 90s/early 00s, his pop cultural zenith if he ever had one, right.
I'm in to my 5th soul now so that means I discovered him when I was 320. But I meant to tag Shelly. [Edited 10/14/22 7:46am] I'm not that "new to the franchise" though. I've heard a bunch of Prince music before from my cousin playing it from time to time. I know more than I'd like to about his personal life too. My knowledge on all things Prince doesn't come close to anyone here but I'd like to think that I know more than the average person. It's precisely because of my prior knowledge that made me want to dive in and experience everything I don't know. | |
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Ok so that's Parade down. I'll watch the movie tonight but I wanted to just listen to the actual album first without associating any particular song with a scene from the movie. Another very strong album, this. I wasn't really feeling it at first but by the time Under The Cherry Moon came on, I was in. I'm looking forward to going back and listening to this one again. Again, it's a big departure from the previous album. I feel like his first few albums were the same style, getting better with each release. Then Purple Rain, Around The World In A Day and Parade have all been something else. They each could almost have been released by different artists. Anyway, my favourite songs here we're Under The Cherry Moon, Kiss (of course), Girls & Boys, Do You Lie and Anotherloverholenyohead (that just played havoc with my autocorrect). I had already heard Kiss and Sometimes It Snows In April but everything else here was new to me. And I liked most of it. Purple Rain is still my favourite album but I still have Sign O The Times tomorrow. A few of you have mentioned that one to me already so I'm looking forward to that. I'll check out Jill Jones and Sheila E's next album too but I'm going to skip the Madhouse stuff for now. Instrumental jazz stuff is a step too far for me at the moment | |
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ShellyMcG said: Ok so that's Parade down. I'll watch the movie tonight but I wanted to just listen to the actual album first without associating any particular song with a scene from the movie. Another very strong album, this. I wasn't really feeling it at first but by the time Under The Cherry Moon came on, I was in. I'm looking forward to going back and listening to this one again. Again, it's a big departure from the previous album. I feel like his first few albums were the same style, getting better with each release. Then Purple Rain, Around The World In A Day and Parade have all been something else. They each could almost have been released by different artists. Anyway, my favourite songs here we're Under The Cherry Moon, Kiss (of course), Girls & Boys, Do You Lie and Anotherloverholenyohead (that just played havoc with my autocorrect). I had already heard Kiss and Sometimes It Snows In April but everything else here was new to me. And I liked most of it. Purple Rain is still my favourite album but I still have Sign O The Times tomorrow. A few of you have mentioned that one to me already so I'm looking forward to that. I'll check out Jill Jones and Sheila E's next album too but I'm going to skip the Madhouse stuff for now. Instrumental jazz stuff is a step too far for me at the moment . Thank you for posting your listening reports. It is really nice and interesting to read how you experience these albums that are so close to us all. It's like you have stepped in a time-machine, doing a crash course in Prince-ology right now! And your writings bring me back to the eighties when I discovered (or maybe better, "underwent") all this fantastic music that came out in a pace that was hard to keep up! Btw, Madhouse/8 is really worth trying. I wasn't into it at first when it was released, but after a few listens, it became a favourite. It's a good companion to SOTT! |
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jazzz said: ShellyMcG said: Ok so that's Parade down. I'll watch the movie tonight but I wanted to just listen to the actual album first without associating any particular song with a scene from the movie. Another very strong album, this. I wasn't really feeling it at first but by the time Under The Cherry Moon came on, I was in. I'm looking forward to going back and listening to this one again. Again, it's a big departure from the previous album. I feel like his first few albums were the same style, getting better with each release. Then Purple Rain, Around The World In A Day and Parade have all been something else. They each could almost have been released by different artists. Anyway, my favourite songs here we're Under The Cherry Moon, Kiss (of course), Girls & Boys, Do You Lie and Anotherloverholenyohead (that just played havoc with my autocorrect). I had already heard Kiss and Sometimes It Snows In April but everything else here was new to me. And I liked most of it. Purple Rain is still my favourite album but I still have Sign O The Times tomorrow. A few of you have mentioned that one to me already so I'm looking forward to that. I'll check out Jill Jones and Sheila E's next album too but I'm going to skip the Madhouse stuff for now. Instrumental jazz stuff is a step too far for me at the moment . Thank you for posting your listening reports. It is really nice and interesting to read how you experience these albums that are so close to us all. It's like you have stepped in a time-machine, doing a crash course in Prince-ology right now! And your writings bring me back to the eighties when I discovered (or maybe better, "underwent") all this fantastic music that came out in a pace that was hard to keep up! Btw, Madhouse/8 is really worth trying. I wasn't into it at first when it was released, but after a few listens, it became a favourite. It's a good companion to SOTT! Your name is literally Jazzz. Of course you're going to recommend the jazz albums . But seriously, I will go back and listen to Madhouse at some point. But for now I just want to focus on the main Prince albums and a few of the more well known side projects. But I will go back to Madhouse though. | |
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Actually, now that I think about it, when I was looking at the discography on Wikipedia I seen that The Black Album was recorded in 1987 but not released until the mid 90s. I'm almost up to 1987 now so should I listen to that now or wait until I get to that year in the 90s? Also, there are a few albums credited to the New Power Generation. I know that his band is called The New Power Generation so are these considered "Prince" albums or are they side projects like The Time, Sheila E, etc. And, last question for now, is the Sign O The Times concert film worth watching now or could I wait until I'm done with all the studio albums first? I will 100% be watching it but I guess I just want to know what would be the best time to watch it. | |
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Your next run starts with 'Sign'O' The Times', yes? (Arther Spooner voice here) Then, you see the movie and afterwards swiftly play the two Madhouse albums! If you are still awake and aware, that black album would be a great follow up, my dear! "Whatever skin we're in
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ShellyMcG said: Actually, now that I think about it, when I was looking at the discography on Wikipedia I seen that The Black Album was recorded in 1987 but not released until the mid 90s. I'm almost up to 1987 now so should I listen to that now or wait until I get to that year in the 90s? Also, there are a few albums credited to the New Power Generation. I know that his band is called The New Power Generation so are these considered "Prince" albums or are they side projects like The Time, Sheila E, etc. And, last question for now, is the Sign O The Times concert film worth watching now or could I wait until I'm done with all the studio albums first? I will 100% be watching it but I guess I just want to know what would be the best time to watch it. . The albums by the NPG are more or less Prince albums in disguise, especially the second and third ones. You can cleary hear his involvement, both in the music as well as in the vocals. It was just a way to release more music, beyond other legal commitments. They are fun albums, but maybe not the most essential listening. As for the Sign O The Times movie, it's definitely worth watching, as it features most of the album's tracks, connected by a light story line. It's nice to hear the songs in their live version, being performed by the fantastic band. The album really comes "alive" this way... |
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