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Reply #30 posted 10/06/22 2:31pm

RJOrion
I dig the fade in/fade out effect too...and the Kiss sample
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Reply #31 posted 10/06/22 4:20pm

LoveGalore
The fade in/out, like Poundcake mentioned, is cool just cuz it's a different thing. He's done it before but it's different and sort of signifies where the narrative of the song ends (with the siren noise that doesn't fade back in).

The bass line is worth the price of admission, let's be honest. If that isn't the fiercest way to open the song.... You can hear his fingers popping against those strings.

On top of the Kiss sample, I looooove that he incorporated the breaths from Sexy Dancer. I also dig when he referenced Sexuality in Rainbow Children so I just like his callbacks anyway.
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Reply #32 posted 10/06/22 8:18pm

RJOrion

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On top of the Kiss sample, I looooove that he incorporated the breaths from Sexy Dancer. I also dig when he referenced Sexuality in Rainbow Children so I just like his callbacks anyway.


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Reply #33 posted 10/07/22 9:00am

FrankieCoco1

LoveGalore said:

The fade in/out, like Poundcake mentioned, is cool just cuz it's a different thing. He's done it before but it's different and sort of signifies where the narrative of the song ends (with the siren noise that doesn't fade back in).

The bass line is worth the price of admission, let's be honest. If that isn't the fiercest way to open the song.... You can hear his fingers popping against those strings.

On top of the Kiss sample, I looooove that he incorporated the breaths from Sexy Dancer. I also dig when he referenced Sexuality in Rainbow Children so I just like his callbacks anyway.


On the leaked version of “Coco Boys” (the one with the scatting and without the crowd noise), there’s a really good fade out/fade in around the 4:50 mark - actually it’s more a false ending, re-start - I made that my ring tone (the fade/play back in).
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Reply #34 posted 10/07/22 9:46pm

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Glad to see it getting some love. I will confess it's never been a song that's come into my mind to say "wow, I really need to listen to that." But whenever I end up finding it, it's better than I remember. I agree that HNRP2 is underrated even if it never really goes far enough to add up to something bigger.

There's a very good album to be made from the songs in 2010s, but it would take some serious work.

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Reply #35 posted 10/08/22 12:05pm

GustavoRibas

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LoveGalore said:

nosajd said:
I LOVE The Gold Standard
Such an uninspired song. He sounds fully bored on The Gold Standard.

Agree

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Reply #36 posted 10/08/22 12:06pm

GustavoRibas

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lustmealways said:

hnr phase 2 as a whole is underrated, great album.

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- Yes, it´s one of my faves. Love listening to it with earphones, doing nothing else. Those arrangements and organic production are amazing. And some real good songs there too.

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Reply #37 posted 10/08/22 9:10pm

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The Gold Standard if fuuunky....

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Reply #38 posted 10/08/22 9:23pm

LoveGalore

SPOOKYGAS said:

The Gold Standard if fuuunky....



Get goin now.
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Reply #39 posted 10/11/22 6:55am

dodger07

LoveGalore said:

MIRvmn1 said:
The Gold Standard reminds me of The Black Album and that's probably why it's one of my favorite tracks on AOA. Stare is also a great song but I prefer The Gold Standard.
Really? What about it reminds you of TBA?

The Bob George-ish voice is the obvious one. It's like a younger distant cousin to Superfunkycalifragisexy to me. Not saying it's as good as it but I get that vibe from it..and Le Grind to a lesser extent.

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Reply #40 posted 10/11/22 1:34pm

ludwig

Stare sounds very similar to We Gets Up, but is better produced. It's a good song, but not very original.

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Reply #41 posted 10/12/22 2:10am

ian

Stare is fantastic, really sparse and funky. One of my faves on the album.

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Reply #42 posted 10/12/22 4:47am

johnpiex

Stare is a fat slice of nasty, nasty funk. And I definitely don't get the hate for The Gold Standard. Funky in a different way, with synth sounds that remind me of Vicki Waiting, and I agree about the previously mentioned Black Album vibes. Both AOA and HNR2 are fantastic listens. I think the last 10 years of his career are criminally underrated.

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Reply #43 posted 10/12/22 6:37am

Genesia

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ludwig said:

Stare sounds very similar to We Gets Up, but is better produced. It's a good song, but not very original.


Thank you! I was going nuts trying to figure out where I'd heard Stare before. I never liked We Gets Up, either. lol

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Reply #44 posted 10/12/22 8:02am

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johnpiex said:

Stare is a fat slice of nasty, nasty funk. And I definitely don't get the hate for The Gold Standard. Funky in a different way, with synth sounds that remind me of Vicki Waiting, and I agree about the previously mentioned Black Album vibes. Both AOA and HNR2 are fantastic listens. I think the last 10 years of his career are criminally underrated.


Totally agree 💯
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Reply #45 posted 10/12/22 8:13am

LoveGalore

johnpiex said:

Stare is a fat slice of nasty, nasty funk. And I definitely don't get the hate for The Gold Standard. Funky in a different way, with synth sounds that remind me of Vicki Waiting, and I agree about the previously mentioned Black Album vibes. Both AOA and HNR2 are fantastic listens. I think the last 10 years of his career are criminally underrated.



The last ten years:
2006 - 3121
2007 - Planet Earth
2009 - LotusFlower, MPLSound
2010 - 20TEN
(2011 - Welcome 2 America)
2014 - Art Official Age, PlectrumElectrum
2015 - Hit N Run 1, Hit N Run 2

Bolded titles had major releases and/or promo events complete with television appearances, brand deals, and a major tour.

Italicized had a brand deal but was only released in Europe.

I don't think any of those albums are short on good reviews. Yes, the hardcore nerds here will have their bones to pick but such is the case with art.

The last four, however, are a very different story. Perhaps it is not the last ten years that are criminally underrated and it is just those last couple years (a decade worth of music almost tbh). And of those last four, you typically get awful opinions of PE and HnR1 with good to great opinions on AOA and HNR2.

Are they truly underrated? What makes them so?
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Reply #46 posted 10/13/22 6:46pm

johnpiex

LoveGalore said:

Are they truly underrated? What makes them so?


They're not discussed with the same reverence as his earlier work, and I think they deserve to be.

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Reply #47 posted 10/13/22 9:00pm

LoveGalore

johnpiex said:



LoveGalore said:


Are they truly underrated? What makes them so?


They're not discussed with the same reverence as his earlier work, and I think they deserve to be.



Start the conversation!
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Reply #48 posted 10/14/22 12:20am

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Theyre only underrated as they have more or better gems than the other albums from this period but as albums you can play back to back? Aoa is the only one that works, and even then it has quite a bit of so so hum drum songs, its just that you can tell he was trying to make it good, whereas with most albums in the 00s/10s, he was just recording them quick and slinging them out there. With aoa he seemed to realise something had to change.
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Reply #49 posted 10/14/22 7:34am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Theyre only underrated as they have more or better gems than the other albums from this period but as albums you can play back to back? Aoa is the only one that works, and even then it has quite a bit of so so hum drum songs, its just that you can tell he was trying to make it good, whereas with most albums in the 00s/10s, he was just recording them quick and slinging them out there. With aoa he seemed to realise something had to change.


Apparently you've not listened to LotusFlow3r.


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Reply #50 posted 10/14/22 7:36am

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johnpiex said:

Stare is a fat slice of nasty, nasty funk. And I definitely don't get the hate for The Gold Standard. Funky in a different way, with synth sounds that remind me of Vicki Waiting, and I agree about the previously mentioned Black Album vibes. Both AOA and HNR2 are fantastic listens. I think the last 10 years of his career are criminally underrated.


Agreed. I'm not a fan of Planet Earth or 20Ten, but otherwise I really love the output over his last 10 years. I'd much rather listen to those albums than anything from the '90s.





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Reply #51 posted 10/14/22 9:40am

EnglishGent2

LoveGalore said:

johnpiex said:


They're not discussed with the same reverence as his earlier work, and I think they deserve to be.

Start the conversation!


Didn't he do that already? And I agree, some fantastic stuff in that bunch.

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Reply #52 posted 10/14/22 12:12pm

LoveGalore

EnglishGent2 said:



LoveGalore said:


johnpiex said:



They're not discussed with the same reverence as his earlier work, and I think they deserve to be.



Start the conversation!


Didn't he do that already? And I agree, some fantastic stuff in that bunch.



Where?
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Reply #53 posted 10/14/22 12:46pm

LILpoundCAKE

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lurker316 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Theyre only underrated as they have more or better gems than the other albums from this period but as albums you can play back to back? Aoa is the only one that works, and even then it has quite a bit of so so hum drum songs, its just that you can tell he was trying to make it good, whereas with most albums in the 00s/10s, he was just recording them quick and slinging them out there. With aoa he seemed to realise something had to change.


Apparently you've not listened to LotusFlow3r.



Yeah I think Lotusflower was percolating the longest of all his albums since TRC.

Things like 3121 and Planet Earth kind of came out of those sessions and he put
them out there since he was feeling some of those tracks but he kept working at
the Lotusflower album all the while.

It feels like an album with a real intent behind it, a passion and a lot of attention.

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Reply #54 posted 10/17/22 7:25pm

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ludwig said:

Stare sounds very similar to We Gets Up, but is better produced. It's a good song, but not very original.

- Yes. It´s a ´cousin´ of We Gets Up. Not a great song, but the production is amazing (like HnR Phase Two album)

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