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Thread started 10/05/22 3:01pm

LoveGalore

Stare is underrated.

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And Stare saved us from a timeline where the awful Gold Standard was the last funk anthem/banger he released before he died. No, don't talk to me about anything on HNR1 - I consider HnR 1+2 to be a single album anyway.
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Reply #1 posted 10/05/22 3:45pm

nosajd

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I LOVE The Gold Standard
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Reply #2 posted 10/05/22 4:03pm

LoveGalore

nosajd said:

I LOVE The Gold Standard


Such an uninspired song. He sounds fully bored on The Gold Standard.
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Reply #3 posted 10/05/22 4:33pm

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I love Stare and agree it's much better than the Gold Standard... but I don't mind the Gold Standard. It's nothing great, but I find it inoffensive.

If you got back 2 more albums, I also love Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful. That's funky.


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Reply #4 posted 10/05/22 4:52pm

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lurker316 said:


I love Stare and agree it's much better than the Gold Standard... but I don't mind the Gold Standard. It's nothing great, but I find it inoffensive.

If you got back 2 more albums, I also love Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful. That's funky.




I like Feel Better, Feel Good a lot too!
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Reply #5 posted 10/05/22 4:54pm

LoveGalore

lurker316 said:


I love Stare and agree it's much better than the Gold Standard... but I don't mind the Gold Standard. It's nothing great, but I find it inoffensive.

If you got back 2 more albums, I also love Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful. That's funky.




Yup I love that one too. But I love that whole album, that was his last hurrah for me. The rest is good in fits and spurts but I think LF ulis perfect. It's like a modern 1999.
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Reply #6 posted 10/05/22 6:10pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #7 posted 10/05/22 11:39pm

RJOrion

I agree 100%....Stare is one of Prince's last truly great songs...Gold Standard is corny and highly overrated
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Reply #8 posted 10/06/22 1:24am

LILpoundCAKE

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LoveGalore said:

lurker316 said:


I love Stare and agree it's much better than the Gold Standard... but I don't mind the Gold Standard. It's nothing great, but I find it inoffensive.

If you got back 2 more albums, I also love Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful. That's funky.


Yup I love that one too. But I love that whole album, that was his last hurrah for me. The rest is good in fits and spurts but I think LF ulis perfect. It's like a modern 1999.


Agreed. Lotusflower is an amazing album. Personally, I do like AOA and it's a good album imo, but
Lotusflower is a lot better.

I'll have to give Stare another listen, I sort of forgot about it. Not that I didn't like it, but since the
last few albums felt so patchy I made my own playlists a lot of times from everything post 2009
and Stare somehow didn't make the cut. I'm sure there's more tracks I should revisit.


May U Live 2 See The Release of Parade SDE
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Reply #9 posted 10/06/22 1:58am

LoveGalore

RJOrion said:

I agree 100%....Stare is one of Prince's last truly great songs...Gold Standard is corny and highly overrated


Seriously! I don't get the appeal of that song at all. It's a cool title but that's about it. If you're gonna call a funk banger the gold standard then it better be an incredible song that outshines the likes of Billy Jack Bitch, Irresistible Bitch, Musicology, Controversy, etc. The Gold Standard is so damn corny, you're right.
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Reply #10 posted 10/06/22 2:00am

LoveGalore

LILpoundCAKE said:



LoveGalore said:


lurker316 said:


I love Stare and agree it's much better than the Gold Standard... but I don't mind the Gold Standard. It's nothing great, but I find it inoffensive.

If you got back 2 more albums, I also love Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful. That's funky.




Yup I love that one too. But I love that whole album, that was his last hurrah for me. The rest is good in fits and spurts but I think LF ulis perfect. It's like a modern 1999.


Agreed. Lotusflower is an amazing album. Personally, I do like AOA and it's a good album imo, but
Lotusflower is a lot better.

I'll have to give Stare another listen, I sort of forgot about it. Not that I didn't like it, but since the
last few albums felt so patchy I made my own playlists a lot of times from everything post 2009
and Stare somehow didn't make the cut. I'm sure there's more tracks I should revisit.




Trust me, I had the same kinda deal. I liked Stare when it was released but I feel like it dropped off my radar since he died and then a shit ton of new stuff came out.

Stare, Revelation, and Black Muse took a while for me to actually recognize how brilliant they are.
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Reply #11 posted 10/06/22 2:19am

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I've always liked Stare. I don't know if it's really good compared to the rest of Prince's output, but at that point I really didn't care. I like it. It's funky. The bass is killing.

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Reply #12 posted 10/06/22 2:54am

dodger07

I've always liked Stare, just wish it went on longer or he give it the extended treatment like La, La, La, He He Hee.

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I also like The Gold Standard. I remember someone said at the time if it turned out this was re-worked from an old track from 87 people would rave over it. It has got a touch of The Black Album with the Bob George like vocals and parts of it hark back to Superfunkycalifragisexy. Notably the '24 carrot hash-tag put your phone in your bag' part reminds of the 'if your body needs water keep dancing...'

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Now I'm not saying it's as good as the likes of Superfunky...but it is reminiscent to me, and maybe that was his aim to reach back and recreate a modern day version.

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Reply #13 posted 10/06/22 5:10am

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hnr phase 2 as a whole is underrated, great album.

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Reply #14 posted 10/06/22 5:11am

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LoveGalore said:

No, don't talk to me about anything on HNR1 - I consider HnR 1+2 to be a single album anyway.

I consider H&R 1+2 to be fourteen separate albums, because I like to be wrong too.

blah blah blah
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Reply #15 posted 10/06/22 6:02am

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olb99 said:

I've always liked Stare. I don't know if it's really good compared to the rest of Prince's output, but at that point I really didn't care. I like it. It's funky. The bass is killing.



Have to agree about the bass, love it. Shame for me that Stare, Free Urself and the re-done Tidal release of If Eye Could get Ur Attention weren’t on the same album together.
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Reply #16 posted 10/06/22 6:11am

LoveGalore

erik319 said:



LoveGalore said:


No, don't talk to me about anything on HNR1 - I consider HnR 1+2 to be a single album anyway.


I consider H&R 1+2 to be fourteen separate albums, because I like to be wrong too.



We're in such good company and I love that for us.
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Reply #17 posted 10/06/22 6:42am

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LoveGalore said:

erik319 said:

I consider H&R 1+2 to be fourteen separate albums, because I like to be wrong too.

We're in such good company and I love that for us.

Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Now if you'd have said that HRN1 sounds like the rejected 2nd disc of AOA, then I might've seen what you were getting at.

I'm so glad he got HRN2 out there before he died, as ending his legacy with HNR1 would have been a pretty low ending.

blah blah blah
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Reply #18 posted 10/06/22 7:21am

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dodger07 said:

I've always liked Stare, just wish it went on longer or he give it the extended treatment like La, La, La, He He Hee.


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I also like The Gold Standard. I remember someone said at the time if it turned out this was re-worked from an old track from 87 people would rave over it. It has got a touch of The Black Album with the Bob George like vocals and parts of it hark back to Superfunkycalifragisexy. Notably the '24 carrot hash-tag put your phone in your bag' part reminds of the 'if your body needs water keep dancing...'


.


Now I'm not saying it's as good as the likes of Superfunky...but it is reminiscent to me, and maybe that was his aim to reach back and recreate a modern day version.


The Gold Standard reminds me of The Black Album and that's probably why it's one of my favorite tracks on AOA. Stare is also a great song but I prefer The Gold Standard.
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Reply #19 posted 10/06/22 7:35am

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MIRvmn1 said:

dodger07 said:

I've always liked Stare, just wish it went on longer or he give it the extended treatment like La, La, La, He He Hee.


.


I also like The Gold Standard. I remember someone said at the time if it turned out this was re-worked from an old track from 87 people would rave over it. It has got a touch of The Black Album with the Bob George like vocals and parts of it hark back to Superfunkycalifragisexy. Notably the '24 carrot hash-tag put your phone in your bag' part reminds of the 'if your body needs water keep dancing...'


.


Now I'm not saying it's as good as the likes of Superfunky...but it is reminiscent to me, and maybe that was his aim to reach back and recreate a modern day version.


The Gold Standard reminds me of The Black Album and that's probably why it's one of my favorite tracks on AOA. Stare is also a great song but I prefer The Gold Standard.


I’m with y’all on this.
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Reply #20 posted 10/06/22 9:52am

LoveGalore

erik319 said:



LoveGalore said:


erik319 said:



I consider H&R 1+2 to be fourteen separate albums, because I like to be wrong too.



We're in such good company and I love that for us.


Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.



Now if you'd have said that HRN1 sounds like the rejected 2nd disc of AOA, then I might've seen what you were getting at.



I'm so glad he got HRN2 out there before he died, as ending his legacy with HNR1 would have been a pretty low ending.



Exactly my thoughts. HNR 2 was like an 11th hour blessing. And it's almost like he knew people would cry about the 1999 SDE and slapped the Extralovable remake on there to keep people sated.
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Reply #21 posted 10/06/22 9:53am

LoveGalore

MIRvmn1 said:

dodger07 said:

I've always liked Stare, just wish it went on longer or he give it the extended treatment like La, La, La, He He Hee.


.


I also like The Gold Standard. I remember someone said at the time if it turned out this was re-worked from an old track from 87 people would rave over it. It has got a touch of The Black Album with the Bob George like vocals and parts of it hark back to Superfunkycalifragisexy. Notably the '24 carrot hash-tag put your phone in your bag' part reminds of the 'if your body needs water keep dancing...'


.


Now I'm not saying it's as good as the likes of Superfunky...but it is reminiscent to me, and maybe that was his aim to reach back and recreate a modern day version.


The Gold Standard reminds me of The Black Album and that's probably why it's one of my favorite tracks on AOA. Stare is also a great song but I prefer The Gold Standard.


Really? What about it reminds you of TBA?
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Reply #22 posted 10/06/22 10:06am

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Crazy Amazin'

C'm'ere!

Naw! Allthewayhere!

VS

"CAN EYE HELP U???!"

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #23 posted 10/06/22 10:16am

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LoveGalore said:

lurker316 said:


I love Stare and agree it's much better than the Gold Standard... but I don't mind the Gold Standard. It's nothing great, but I find it inoffensive.

If you got back 2 more albums, I also love Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful. That's funky.


Yup I love that one too. But I love that whole album, that was his last hurrah for me. The rest is good in fits and spurts but I think LF ulis perfect. It's like a modern 1999.


I agree. Lotusflow3r is amazing and is easily as good as his '80s output.

To bring this back on topic, I think HNR 2 is a very good album. Not as great as Lotusflow3r, but it's still very good. As you mention above, Black Muse is great. It took me a while to warm to Big City because the lyrics are so corny, but the music is so damn funky that song evetually became a favorite as well.

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Reply #24 posted 10/06/22 10:20am

LoveGalore

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Crazy Amazin'


C'm'ere!


Naw! Allthewayhere!


VS


"CAN EYE HELP U???!"



"crazy amazing" might be the one lyric I remember from the song and it's so fucking corny it blows my mind. Like he couldn't think of a better chorus.
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Reply #25 posted 10/06/22 10:46am

RJOrion

"You don't need to be rude, you don't need to be wild
Whatever you do, no compromise and done with style

The gold standard, crazy amazing, upper echelon groove
The gold standard, crazy amazing, turn it up, let your body move"

cornball lyrics...and that uninspired, repetitive and annoying rhythm guitar riff makes me wanna drive off the road into a ditch.

The song almost sounds like someone doing a parody of Prince
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Reply #26 posted 10/06/22 11:01am

LoveGalore

RJOrion said:

"You don't need to be rude, you don't need to be wild
Whatever you do, no compromise and done with style

The gold standard, crazy amazing, upper echelon groove
The gold standard, crazy amazing, turn it up, let your body move"

cornball lyrics...and that uninspired, repetitive and annoying rhythm guitar riff makes me wanna drive off the road into a ditch.

The song almost sounds like someone doing a parody of Prince


It is definitely one of those "what I ordered (something worthy of being called The Gold Standard) vs what I got (hot ham & cheese cafeteria sandwich "funk lite")".
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Reply #27 posted 10/06/22 2:06pm

giorgio

I’ve always loved Stare, all in all a super funky statement with lots of purple attitude which I love, but to this day I find the fade-out fade-in effect choice a bit awkward, and the coda afterwards doesn’t quite hold up to the energy sadly, my 2 cents…
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Reply #28 posted 10/06/22 2:11pm

giorgio

… but beats the Gold Standard by a million light years from here wink
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Reply #29 posted 10/06/22 2:26pm

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giorgio said:

I’ve always loved Stare, all in all a super funky statement with lots of purple attitude which I love, but to this day I find the fade-out fade-in effect choice a bit awkward, and the coda afterwards doesn’t quite hold up to the energy sadly, my 2 cents…


I've spent a bit of time with this song today and that fade in/fade out is one of the things I love most
about it. It's just different. I like when Prince surprises me or does something different. Yet in this
case it doesn't sound like a gimmick or the latest sound effect, it's just something a bit different that
adds to the song instead of distracting from it.

Now that Kiss [sample/interpolation(?)], that I'm still on the fence about. One time I think it's great
fun and the next I think 'hmm, I don't know'.

But all in all, I'm glad for this thread and rediscovering this song. I love the bass on this one and the
song feels like totally new prince for me now since I kinda forgot about it.

Also loving the layered vocals throughout. They sound like he put a bit of time into them. Nice! cool

May U Live 2 See The Release of Parade SDE
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