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Printableonlyforaminute said: lurker316 said:
The motivation behind his capricious changes-of-mind isn't relevant. Regardless of whether it was a consequence of flakiness or perfectionism, the point remains that, in Prince's mind, this was not a fully realized project. The point remains, there's a high probability Prince would have shelved these songs or repurposed them for a completely different project.
It's relevant to somebody. it keeps coming up as if it's not a common thing in the entertainment industry. Projects are shelved for any number of reasons all the time, seems like a moot point to even mention especially now. I don't care how they market it, fans are aware of it's existence and want to hear whatever there is. As an individual I'm not really in the what Prince would've done camp, I have no idea, I just know the original ideas left with him. Now I believe what's available might have been hyped just like how many pages were completed for his book. So gaps need filling first. Hopefully not too much. It's relevant to the powers that be, which is why it leaves this project in questionable territory. With P&M83 we knew how complete that moment was. And that the estate released it in such a state with intention. It's statements they've made since that release that put half baked projects like BITNB into question. Again, though - can anyone give any clue as to how much Prince himself talked about this project? I'm not calling the other dudes liars, to be clear, but they sure seem to have some crystallized ideas about this project that typically prince's coworkers did not actually have. | |
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Ure right..he said this very clearly in 2014 during an interview on TV & never came back on his words after ! | |
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LoveGalore said: onlyforaminute said: It's relevant to somebody. it keeps coming up as if it's not a common thing in the entertainment industry. Projects are shelved for any number of reasons all the time, seems like a moot point to even mention especially now. I don't care how they market it, fans are aware of it's existence and want to hear whatever there is. As an individual I'm not really in the what Prince would've done camp, I have no idea, I just know the original ideas left with him. Now I believe what's available might have been hyped just like how many pages were completed for his book. So gaps need filling first. Hopefully not too much. It's relevant to the powers that be, which is why it leaves this project in questionable territory. With P&M83 we knew how complete that moment was. And that the estate released it in such a state with intention. It's statements they've made since that release that put half baked projects like BITNB into question. Again, though - can anyone give any clue as to how much Prince himself talked about this project? I'm not calling the other dudes liars, to be clear, but they sure seem to have some crystallized ideas about this project that typically prince's coworkers did not actually have. I do not see where Prince talked about it at all. I don't think anyone lied but I expect hype. The question is how much hype. As more time passes it's probably a whole lot. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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I suppose my main focus was BITNB was what was on his heart those last months. As a fan that followed from 89 till the end I liked to see the new directions he was working with. I could speculate he was frustrated that last year. What kind of music could that have produced? What kinds of things was he talking about? Buying a new Prince album was the closest 99.9999% anyone was ever gonna get to sitting in the living room & listening to what was on his mind @ that moment. Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one bird. |
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Monarch said: I suppose my main focus was BITNB was what was on his heart those last months. As a fan that followed from 89 till the end I liked to see the new directions he was working with. I could speculate he was frustrated that last year. What kind of music could that have produced? What kinds of things was he talking about? Buying a new Prince album was the closest 99.9999% anyone was ever gonna get to sitting in the living room & listening to what was on his mind @ that moment. Well, fear not. Prince often made his most poignant records by himself. There's likely more stuff kicking around the vault from his final days than just a collection of jam sessions. Take the 3121 jam for example - that led to music spread across 3 albums and Sonny and Michael were none the wiser as to what it would be used for. As far back as the Revolution, Wendy and Lisa evidently had the idea that Roadhouse Garden was the follow up to Purple Rain, and then ATWIAD, and on. Bandmates are never, ever the best source for what direction Prince was ever headed in. It sucks that they're the ONLY source for fans today since the estate doesn't feel like discussing anything. | |
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'Welcome 2 America' was also a NON album. Why would you want an outside source to "imagine" a Prince album? There were so many working album titles throughout his career that you couldn't possibly just pinpoint this one as a must-have!
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To be honest I also feel that the Hit N Run albums though released while he was alive, were not really "albums" in the sense of sit down I am doing a new album, it was just a lot of tracks especially on phase II that really had no home so he tossed out these compilations. I still feel Phase one was kind of a "what we left off" Art O ficial age |
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