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Thread started 07/26/22 12:51pm

lustmealways

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private joy - pop masterpiece

i'm drunk and this is the greatest song ever. this is a pop masterpiece. why wasn't this single. who else can write a song like this. this is the most undderated p song. fuck me. this is so good. give me dear uncle george. i'm going to cry this is so good.

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Reply #1 posted 07/26/22 1:38pm

SoulAlive

It definitely should have been a single.Great song!
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Reply #2 posted 07/26/22 3:52pm

BalladofPeterP
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I love that track! Still sounds fresh and new!

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Reply #3 posted 07/26/22 4:42pm

RJOrion

One of P's most underrated songs for sure...best song on the "Controversy" lp
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Reply #4 posted 07/26/22 5:39pm

glamlife2

Agree 100%! Never understood why this wasn't a single - was my favorite song on Controversy from the moment I bought the album!

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Reply #5 posted 07/27/22 4:06am

lurker316

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It is super catchy and surely would have been a radio hit, had it been released. Great song.

Anyone know the story behind the cover version by Cheyne on the Weird Science soundtrack???



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Reply #6 posted 07/27/22 6:28am

laytonian

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It is super catchy and surely would have been a radio hit, had it been released. Great song.

Anyone know the story behind the cover version by Cheyne on the Weird Science soundtrack???




With a cover version, they only have to pay licensing fees to the songwriter.
Using the artist's original release would be waaay more expensive, especially with Prince's heights at the time of filming.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #7 posted 07/27/22 8:00am

Vannormal

Estate ??

Ya Listening ?

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Release this as if it is the latest new thing.

Promote it as if it is the latest new thing.

Be goddman creative!

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Have some damn surprising remixs done by Anderson .Paak, Questlove/Q-tip, Lizzo, Jacques Lu Cont, Lady Gaga, Dua Lippa, Bruno Mars, etc.

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It's worth it!

Such a great track.

Always been.

And always will be!

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Who knows, maybe there's a extended version some where in the vault...

wink

S U P P O R T --- U K R A I N E --- N O W --- 4 --- MORE PEACE !!!
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #8 posted 07/27/22 8:39am

RJOrion

I wonder if the reason Prince never released it as a single, is because the the keyboard hook that drives the song was lifted/borrowed/stolen from the Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons 1975 hit single "Who Loves You"
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Reply #9 posted 07/27/22 9:03am

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For me the Bijou of this album and a really weird masterpiece is Annie Christian.....pure electro punk funk ...avant Garde song ever...best song on this album!
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Reply #10 posted 07/27/22 9:23am

VaultCurator

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SoulAlive said:

It definitely should have been a single.Great song!


In my opinion, 'Private Joy' and 'Extralovable' were two sensational hits that were never to be. Imagine both of them on a greatest hits album along with 'I Wanna Be Your Lover', '1999', 'Little Red Corvette' and 'When Doves Cry'. cloud9

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Reply #11 posted 07/27/22 10:15am

LoveGalore

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SoulAlive said:


It definitely should have been a single.Great song!


In my opinion, 'Private Joy' and 'Extralovable' were two sensational hits that were never to be. Imagine both of them on a greatest hits album along with 'I Wanna Be Your Lover', '1999', 'Little Red Corvette' and 'When Doves Cry'. cloud9



A former partner of mine tolerated a lot of Prince music in our time together. Extralovable '82 was one of the only songs he ever perked up at and liked (he also liked some of the hits). What never was...!
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Reply #12 posted 07/27/22 10:17am

BalladofPeterP
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love2thenines2003 said:

For me the Bijou of this album and a really weird masterpiece is Annie Christian.....pure electro punk funk ...avant Garde song ever...best song on this album!

I love that one too!!!

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Reply #13 posted 07/27/22 10:49am

TrivialPursuit

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LaToya Jackson butchered the fuck out of it.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #14 posted 07/28/22 3:57am

Vannormal

RJOrion said:

I wonder if the reason Prince never released it as a single, is because the the keyboard hook that drives the song was lifted/borrowed/stolen from the Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons 1975 hit single "Who Loves You"

I hear (but had to listen closely) what you mean, but the chord progressions for that hook is pure coincidental, and quite logic when you play it on a keyboard.

Sure i could be that he heard this song.

But not enough to say that it's the reason why it was hold back for a single release.

S U P P O R T --- U K R A I N E --- N O W --- 4 --- MORE PEACE !!!
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #15 posted 07/28/22 3:57am

Vannormal

VaultCurator said:

SoulAlive said:

It definitely should have been a single.Great song!


In my opinion, 'Private Joy' and 'Extralovable' were two sensational hits that were never to be. Imagine both of them on a greatest hits album along with 'I Wanna Be Your Lover', '1999', 'Little Red Corvette' and 'When Doves Cry'. cloud9

Absolutely true.

S U P P O R T --- U K R A I N E --- N O W --- 4 --- MORE PEACE !!!
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #16 posted 07/28/22 3:58am

Vannormal

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LaToya Jackson butchered the fuck out of it.

kinda like that fucked up shit too wink

guilty pleasure.

S U P P O R T --- U K R A I N E --- N O W --- 4 --- MORE PEACE !!!
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #17 posted 08/01/22 3:45pm

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:


It definitely should have been a single.Great song!


In my opinion, 'Private Joy' and 'Extralovable' were two sensational hits that were never to be. Imagine both of them on a greatest hits album along with 'I Wanna Be Your Lover', '1999', 'Little Red Corvette' and 'When Doves Cry'. cloud9



Absolutely!
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Reply #18 posted 08/02/22 1:16am

SquirrelMeat76

Was never a big fan of Controversy (the album). Not nearly as good as Dirty Mind, and too much rather average material (Annie Christian, Sexuality, Ronnie Talk 2 Russia). Even the title song I never really cared for. Private Joy along with Let's Work saves the album, and Do Me Baby is decent too (although a bit overdone for me).

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Reply #19 posted 08/02/22 2:02pm

TrivialPursuit

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Many of us have called it experimental, or a segue album between a change in sounds.

But experimental or not, I don't think Controversy has a bad song on it.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #20 posted 08/02/22 5:25pm

strongoxman1

Vannormal said:



TrivialPursuit said:


LaToya Jackson butchered the fuck out of it.



kinda like that fucked up shit too wink


guilty pleasure.



The Cheyne cover is far superior.
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Reply #21 posted 08/04/22 2:39am

SoulAlive

love2thenines2003 said:

For me the Bijou of this album and a really weird masterpiece is Annie Christian.....pure electro punk funk ...avant Garde song ever...best song on this album!


“Annie Christian” is a trippy song and I love it…bold and very experimental.
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Reply #22 posted 08/04/22 4:33am

RJOrion

SoulAlive said:

love2thenines2003 said:

For me the Bijou of this album and a really weird masterpiece is Annie Christian.....pure electro punk funk ...avant Garde song ever...best song on this album!


“Annie Christian” is a trippy song and I love it…bold and very experimental.


Word...Annie Christian is a timeless masterpiece
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Reply #23 posted 08/04/22 5:42am

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SquirrelMeat76 said:

Was never a big fan of Controversy (the album). Not nearly as good as Dirty Mind, and too much rather average material (Annie Christian, Sexuality, Ronnie Talk 2 Russia). Even the title song I never really cared for. Private Joy along with Let's Work saves the album, and Do Me Baby is decent too (although a bit overdone for me).

WHAT?? Sexuality is my absolute favorite!! Tastes do differ it seems smile

"In Funk We Thrust" - Bootsy Collins
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Reply #24 posted 08/04/22 6:39am

RJOrion

BeauFunk said:



SquirrelMeat76 said:


Was never a big fan of Controversy (the album). Not nearly as good as Dirty Mind, and too much rather average material (Annie Christian, Sexuality, Ronnie Talk 2 Russia). Even the title song I never really cared for. Private Joy along with Let's Work saves the album, and Do Me Baby is decent too (although a bit overdone for me).







WHAT?? Sexuality is my absolute favorite!! Tastes do differ it seems smile



Seriously...thats got to be the first time ive ever seen anyone badmouth "Sexuality"...IMO thats one of P's top 10 or 20 greatest songs ever
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Reply #25 posted 08/05/22 5:40am

EnglishGent2

SquirrelMeat76 said:

Was never a big fan of Controversy (the album). Not nearly as good as Dirty Mind, and too much rather average material (Annie Christian, Sexuality, Ronnie Talk 2 Russia). Even the title song I never really cared for. Private Joy along with Let's Work saves the album, and Do Me Baby is decent too (although a bit overdone for me).


I much prefer Controversy to DM. But we've covered my problems before lol

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Reply #26 posted 08/05/22 8:27am

SoulAlive

I strangled Valentino (he strangled Valentino)
Been mine ever since (been his ever since)
If anybody asks you (if anybody asks you)
You belong to Prince!

headbang

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Reply #27 posted 08/05/22 11:00am

LoveGalore

EnglishGent2 said:



SquirrelMeat76 said:


Was never a big fan of Controversy (the album). Not nearly as good as Dirty Mind, and too much rather average material (Annie Christian, Sexuality, Ronnie Talk 2 Russia). Even the title song I never really cared for. Private Joy along with Let's Work saves the album, and Do Me Baby is decent too (although a bit overdone for me).






I much prefer Controversy to DM. But we've covered my problems before lol



Actually all these people who prefer Dirty Mind over Controversy terrify me too.
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Reply #28 posted 08/05/22 11:03am

LoveGalore

Like, pound for pound, Controversy is just a better album.

Controversy's guaranteed bangers:
Controversy
Sexuality
Do Me Baby
Private Joy
Let's Work
Annie Christian

Dirty Mind's guaranteed bangers:
Dirty Mind
When U Were Mine
Uptown
Head

How is this even a comparison?

Please can someone help me understand how Do It All Night, Sister, and Partyup could ever exist on an album considered better than Controversy?
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Reply #29 posted 08/05/22 11:08am

LoveGalore

Jack U Off is still a classic and it's distinctly Prince. That's Prince being the Prince we all know and love for damn near the first time.

Fine, Ronnie is a goofy song. Okay. But he just blew your brains out with Private Joy and that solo a second ago so you need some time to get your shit together anyway. Then the album continues to destroy your mind all over again.

And let's not even talk about how the melodies and the range of sounds are just better on Controversy. DM is filled with an extremely squeaky keyboard on every fucking song. And his falsetto never sounded more nasal than that record. No no no.
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