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Thread started 07/24/22 10:18am

funkbabyandthe
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WB should have made prince do a SOTT in 1995

i.e he was working on several projects like he was in the mid-late 80s, and needed to compile a best of, out of those projects, not release them individually.

i know there was the unofficial The Dawn set, but that basically like a modern crystal ball, cool for completists, but maybe too much in one sitting.

a double (or one single CD in 90s terms) would have provided a more succinct summary of prince at that point.

something like -

disc1

Interactive

Endorphinmachine

Shhh

Shy

Zannalee

Pheromone

Papa

Dark

Count the Days

Dolphin

The Same December

Gold

disc 2

Dig U Better Dead

Dinner with Delores

I Like It There

319

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

Solo

Letitgo

Orgasm

Into the Light

I Will

Had U

[Edited 7/24/22 12:29pm]

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Reply #1 posted 07/24/22 11:39am

nayroo2002

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i'm pretty sure all fans have a playlist from that era.

Mainly because WB wouldn't let Prince release multi disc albums anymore.

That's why he went rogue.

"WB should have made Prince do...."

is already not a reality!

Sorry, funkybaby!!! lol

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #2 posted 07/24/22 12:30pm

funkbabyandthe
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its a fantasy lol.

i know at that time it was a no-no.

but it would have been better for all, and for posterity, if he had been allowed one more double album wink

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Reply #3 posted 07/24/22 4:48pm

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

i.e he was working on several projects like he was in the mid-late 80s, and needed to compile a best of, out of those projects, not release them individually.

i know there was the unofficial The Dawn set, but that basically like a modern crystal ball, cool for completists, but maybe too much in one sitting.

a double (or one single CD in 90s terms) would have provided a more succinct summary of prince at that point.

something like -

disc1

Interactive

Endorphinmachine

Shhh

Shy

Zannalee

Pheromone

Papa

Dark

Count the Days

Dolphin

The Same December

Gold

disc 2

Dig U Better Dead

Dinner with Delores

I Like It There

319

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

Solo

Letitgo

Orgasm

Into the Light

I Will

Had U

[Edited 7/24/22 12:29pm]



WB shoud have made him? Prince likely would have loved to that. WB wasn't interested.


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Reply #4 posted 07/24/22 5:01pm

RJOrion

WB "should have made him do..."??


Its that kind of thought process that made the man draw 'sLaVE' on his face.

WB wasnt gonna "make him do" anything
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Reply #5 posted 07/24/22 6:09pm

homesquid

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While I totally vibe with your enthusiasm for that era and the great cache of songs he cut I have to say WB and their quality control and savvy business sense to not saturate the market was what Prince needed. For when Prince turned his contractual obligation albums to when was "free" he totally watered down his catalog and lost his specialness. I remember that before "Emancipation" EVERY Prince song I could find was like manna from heaven to me. Just so thrilling. Then? The floodgates opened and he unleashed too much music with too much mediocrity in a short period of time. It was never the same. "Emancipation" was a mistake. Wait. Wait. I actually really dig it now but think about this...36 songs was really 3-4 Prince albums all at once...and then Crystal Ball, NPS, etc. It's like in the space of 1994-1999 years Prince released as many songs as he did in all the years 1978-1993!!

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Reply #6 posted 07/24/22 11:27pm

funkbabyandthe
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RJOrion said:

WB "should have made him do..."??


Its that kind of thought process that made the man draw 'sLaVE' on his face.

WB wasnt gonna "make him do" anything


point being, they did make him reduce crystal ball from a triple to SOTT.

this could have been a good moment to do something similar.
[Edited 7/25/22 9:10am]
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Reply #7 posted 07/25/22 11:06am

GustavoRibas

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lurker316 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

i.e he was working on several projects like he was in the mid-late 80s, and needed to compile a best of, out of those projects, not release them individually.

i know there was the unofficial The Dawn set, but that basically like a modern crystal ball, cool for completists, but maybe too much in one sitting.

a double (or one single CD in 90s terms) would have provided a more succinct summary of prince at that point.

something like -

disc1

Interactive

Endorphinmachine

Shhh

Shy

Zannalee

Pheromone

Papa

Dark

Count the Days

Dolphin

The Same December

Gold

disc 2

Dig U Better Dead

Dinner with Delores

I Like It There

319

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

Solo

Letitgo

Orgasm

Into the Light

I Will

Had U

[Edited 7/24/22 12:29pm]



WB shoud have made him? Prince likely would have loved to that. WB wasn't interested.

- Yes! And there were so many cool songs from those years...

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Reply #8 posted 07/25/22 1:04pm

rockford

RJOrion said:

WB "should have made him do..."?? Its that kind of thought process that made the man draw 'sLaVE' on his face. WB wasnt gonna "make him do" anything

Him failing to read through his contract or have a competent lawyer do it is the reason he had to write slave on his face. If you sign a piece of paper stating that you're going to do X in exhange for Y then you are no slave. He wasn't forced to sign anything.

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Reply #9 posted 07/26/22 11:08am

TrivialPursuit

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Shoulda coulda woulda.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #10 posted 07/27/22 12:26am

RODSERLING

Just another pointless trolling post.
And by the way, he already released all these tracks on fantastic albums.
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Reply #11 posted 07/27/22 12:31am

funkbabyandthe
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Trolling? Thats rich coming from you.

As for the other point, really? You mean these songs are in circulation already? There were on albums already available? Please tell me more good sir! What other revelations do you have in store?! *mind blown*
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Reply #12 posted 07/27/22 12:09pm

Genesia

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Prince and WB were already at war in 1995. (He announced his intention to separate from them in December of that year.) They weren't going to "make him" do anything.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #13 posted 07/27/22 1:48pm

Se7en

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Come, Gold and Exodus are all basically offshoots of the same project(s) he had going on at that time. Several of the songs appeared on different albums than the ones they ended up on.

He was on fire during this era, but one of WB's main complaints was over-saturation.

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Reply #14 posted 07/27/22 4:36pm

TrivialPursuit

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Se7en said:

Come, Gold and Exodus are all basically offshoots of the same project(s) he had going on at that time. Several of the songs appeared on different albums than the ones they ended up on.

He was on fire during this era, but one of WB's main complaints was over-saturation.


Totally agree. Come, The Gold Experience, Exodus, Chaos and Disorder are all fantastic records. I've always maintained that as big as his mid-80s moments were (and literally all of the 80s were great for him), that the mid-90s was the same kind of firing-on-all-burners situation.

It seems that once his started NPG Records, and started owning his property he saw the end. And it energizes him. One could argue that the biggest dip in his WB-era career was all things just before, during, and after Graffiti Bridge. But D&P and prince saw him rise with a new fire in his gut. He shot off The Hits/The B-Sides and promptly moved on.

But yeah, even though he owned the music post '93, his deal still had WB calling the shots of distribution/when, etc.

And to the OP, as much as he was purposely distancing himself from all things Prince, there was zero way he was going to revisit SOTT to do anything with it. And nope - WB wasn't going to make him do anything. Good fucking luck with that.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #15 posted 07/27/22 11:03pm

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

You guys need to learn that artists dont always make all their decisions, and their decisions are also often inspired and led by those around them, and that this isnt always a bad thing. Eg when the 1999 album was more or less done, princes management said they they felt it still didnt have a real big single to unify the album or to make a statenent. Thats what led prince to make the song 1999. Similarly prince didnt have the song purple rain in mind as the titleof the album or film until adter performing it for the first time, magnoli suggested that PR was the song to build everything around in that period
So while i was being a bit facetious in writing WB should have 'made' him compile a double rather than issue three single sets, yes, sometimes accepting others input was def a good thing for princes career. SOTT is arguably a better album than CB would have been
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