LoveGalore said:

I wanna think something like Solo could work for a Bond theme. Perhaps with just a touch more pop sensibility to it? That, Strays of the World, Planet Earth, Gold, Last December, they all have the epic and cinematic quality to them I think. Could they be refashioned into a Bond theme? Maybe. I keep thinking back to TP's mention of Goldeneye because that, and The World Is Not Enough, exemplify the Bond themes to me. Something major, epic, distinctly in theme, a very specific cocktail of international spy movie magic. Very different to the garbage Madonna turned out, which if past is precedent, could allow for, idk, Wedding Feast or Jughead to be a Bond theme.

Hmmm, you know. "Solo" set to some new music could be interesting. I'd like to hear that in general. Something moody, lots of strings and big cinematic elements.

"PLanet Earth" I can see, without the mid-section.

Dare I say, a little bit of new production and "Damn U" has the bones for it. Take out some of the more comforting moments and make 'em moody.

TrivialPursuit said:

PJMcGee said:

Power Fantastic, if you did more of a cool, indie version of Bond. Or maybe changed the name to Pussy Fantastic? There's a Bond villainess name for you. Of course, we already have Pussy Control, a Bond girl name if I ever heard one.

I can't with you.

PJMcGee said:

Milty2 said:

Bond songs are normally written specifically for the film after the synopsis/narrative of the film is shared with the songwriter so that the newly written piece actually fits the film.

And they have to have a certain musical element or motif in them that's used in most Bond themes.
I don;t think that kind of boudaries would work well with Prince.

Prince also did a 'new' theme for The Simpsons when they wanted him on it, but that was discarded along with his whole episode plan.

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JorisE73 said:

Milty2 said:

Bond songs are normally written specifically for the film after the synopsis/narrative of the film is shared with the songwriter so that the newly written piece actually fits the film.

And they have to have a certain musical element or motif in them that's used in most Bond themes.
I don;t think that kind of boudaries would work well with Prince.

Prince also did a 'new' theme for The Simpsons when they wanted him on it, but that was discarded along with his whole episode plan.

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I don't know. Maybe the younger Prince would have balked at those restrictions but I think the older, more mature Prince would have played along with it.

JorisE73 said:

Milty2 said:

Bond songs are normally written specifically for the film after the synopsis/narrative of the film is shared with the songwriter so that the newly written piece actually fits the film.

And they have to have a certain musical element or motif in them that's used in most Bond themes.
I don;t think that kind of boudaries would work well with Prince.

Prince also did a 'new' theme for The Simpsons when they wanted him on it, but that was discarded along with his whole episode plan.

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That's twice Prince was overlooked then in favor of Danny Elfman. Prince must've really hated elves.

Kirk - "I bring word from Elrond of Rivendell". Prince *freaks out*, thinking Agent Smith is coming to town. (There was that issue over labels with barcodes attached to his clothing?!)

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fortuneandserendipity said:

LoveGalore said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

That's twice Prince was overlooked then in favor of Danny Elfman. Prince must've really hated elves.

Kurt - "I bring word from Elrond of Rivendell". Prince *freaks out*, thinking Agent Smith is coming to town. (There was that issue over labels with barcodes attached to his clothing?!)

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You need to be seen. ASAP.

It's called humor. Maybe you don't get the references or juist don't find it funny. Prince loved the Matrix, fired Kirk a few times for not doing his every bidding. And 'Elfman' is a play on words, and somebody following me on here is a HUGE Elfman fan. LOTR is the most famous lore btw. Also about the labels.... https://www.gq.com/story/prince-stories

I'll chime in with as many cultural references as I like. Not my fault if other people overjudge because they're not knowledgable.

RJOrion said:

"Live 4 Love" (without Tony M) couldve been Bond theme music

OHHHH, yes. Maybe a few production elements removed. But can you image that with some Bond-y strings and that twangy surfin' type guitar we hear in some of the songs? Hell, that's even a good title for a Bond movie.

fortuneandserendipity said:

LoveGalore said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

It's called humor. Maybe you don't get the references or juist don't find it funny. Prince loved the Matrix, fired Kirk a few times for not doing his every bidding. And 'Elfman' is a play on words, and somebody following me on here is a HUGE Elfman fan. LOTR is the most famous lore btw. Also about the labels.... https://www.gq.com/story/prince-stories

I'll chime in with as many cultural references as I like. Not my fault if other people overjudge because they're not knowledgable.

For a comedian, you sure do get serious quickly.

(Felt even less funny when he had to explain it) he whispered to himself.

TrivialPursuit said:

Well, the thread is kinda dumb . Because if P had been asked it would have made definitive news back in the day. So he wasn't asked, thus everything is a hypothetical. But to be serious and on point...

There is no preexisting P song that would have fit the bill. Just to tackle OP's few examples. D & P, as a duet would have been too saccharine. Still great song. Chains O' Gold sounds too ostentatious, even for Bond material, maybe due to falsetto, or the overall 'wall of sound' production. Again, great song. Crystal Ball would never have worked with the helium vocals and hiccuppy rhythms.

The only songs that could've worked as Bond theme musically, are Insatiable, Damn U, Scandalous. None of them have lyrics suited at all to any Bond film. Being too sexual, instead of merely sensual.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Well, the thread is kinda dumb

Yet you proceeded to type three paragraphs.

fortuneandserendipity said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Well Winehouse was a drunk. And although Prince was addicted to drugs, he got work done.

Either way: I agree about Batman. But the better songs were written new, IMO. I don't think it's the weakest of a decade considering the mesh and old song rehash of Graffiti Bridge was a year later. And do we mean the 80s in general? Or from 88-98? Either way, I think it's a strong album; stronger than GB but on level with Diamonds and Pearls. Anyhoo...

I do think if Prince was given a purpose, he'd have lived up to it. He was versatile enough to record not only every kind of song around, but write one specifically for an artist's genre. I can see him being fully capable, based on that, of writing a Bond theme. I'm not sure it'd be as Bond-y as "Goldeneye," Live and Let Die," "Skyfall" or even "A View to a Kill" which seems to be a great mesh of Bond elements as well as Duran's aural aesthetic (and was a #1 for them).

I can see it being a PRINCE song, ya know, but he was good at borrowing, paying homage, or whatever. So if he had to put some Bond shit into a song, he could've done it.

I'm interested to know if he was ever asked, and passed on it for whatever reason. Not sure anyone would know, or they just haven't said so yet.

He did do an orchestral score for Batman soundtrack, so I recall. But Tim Burton passed on it, favoring Danny Elfman instead. That didn't stop Prince though, who resorted to rollerskating to get it out of his system.

There must be video matirial of this in the vautl somewhere. Just imagine.

Good lawd, i want to see him move on rollerskates... )))

Vannormal said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

He did do an orchestral score for Batman soundtrack, so I recall. But Tim Burton passed on it, favoring Danny Elfman instead. That didn't stop Prince though, who resorted to rollerskating to get it out of his system.

There must be video matirial of this in the vautl somewhere. Just imagine.

Good lawd, i want to see him move on rollerskates... )))

There kinda already is, with this video showing him move on rollerskates. But it's not much.

https://www.youtube.com/w...Gb7vQa4QG4

fortuneandserendipity said:

Vannormal said:

There must be video matirial of this in the vautl somewhere. Just imagine.

Good lawd, i want to see him move on rollerskates... )))

There kinda already is, with this video showing him move on rollerskates. But it's not much.

https://www.youtube.com/w...Gb7vQa4QG4

Thank you.

I don't think Prince's style was anywhere near a Bond theme.

I can see chord progressions like Stays of the World, Planet Earth or Dance With The Devil fitting in (particularly in the post Casino Royal erea), but Bond themes are very controlled and I don't think Prince would have conformed.

I think the closest an artist has got to stamping their own sound on a Bond theme was A-ha's 'Living Daylights' and even then, John Barry got a partial writing credit for the string arrangements.

SquirrelMeat said:

I don't think Prince's style was anywhere near a Bond theme.

I can see chord progressions like Stays of the World, Planet Earth or Dance With The Devil fitting in (particularly in the post Casino Royal erea), but Bond themes are very controlled and I don't think Prince would have conformed.

I think the closest an artist has got to stamping their own sound on a Bond theme was A-ha's 'Living Daylights' and even then, John Barry got a partial writing credit for the string arrangements.

I'd say "A View To A Kill" is very Duran Duran, and equally fits 007.

TrivialPursuit said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I don't think Prince's style was anywhere near a Bond theme.

I can see chord progressions like Stays of the World, Planet Earth or Dance With The Devil fitting in (particularly in the post Casino Royal erea), but Bond themes are very controlled and I don't think Prince would have conformed.

I think the closest an artist has got to stamping their own sound on a Bond theme was A-ha's 'Living Daylights' and even then, John Barry got a partial writing credit for the string arrangements.

I'd say "A View To A Kill" is very Duran Duran, and equally fits 007.

I agree, DD did very well maintaining their own sound and still make it sound like a Bond song.

TrivialPursuit said:

Milty2 said:

Sheesh....you make it sound like he addicted to drugs for just for kicks.

I don't know where you got that in what I said. My point was that Prince was a working and functioning addict. Winehouse was much less interested in her music versus her addiction.

Here we go ...

muleFunk said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I don't know where you got that in what I said. My point was that Prince was a working and functioning addict. Winehouse was much less interested in her music versus her addiction.

Here we go ...

Yeah, from 13 days ago. We're so pushing it, huh?

For me, "Glasscutter" is a bond song. Don't ask me why, because it totall isn't. And yet, it is.

Both ''The Future'' and ''Arms Of Orion'' sound (very) Bond-ish (to me).