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Thread started 03/29/22 6:26am

ElectricKGod

Prince's Guitar Necks & His Chord Approach

Alright I had 2 come to the ORG to ask this one... I have been watching luve videos of Prince playing both acoustic and electric guitar. And he is a very thumb heavy guitar player... yet, given the size of a guitar neck, especially an acoustic... up against his overall stature...one would imagine Prince getting his while hand around a standard guitar neck to fret chords like that would B quite challenging... so my question is... did he have special necks made 2 facilitate this?... were guitar necks smaller back in the day...? He does it just a little 2 easily ( like everything else)... but especially when I watched him playing " Cream" Acoustic... I really had 2 wonder, because I KNOW my hands are bigger than his and I struggle to get that grip on my guitars.. what's the deal? Thanx
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Reply #1 posted 03/29/22 6:29am

JorisE73

According to Dave Rusan and his guitar techs his clouds had custom slimmer necks, so I guess all his customized guitar had also slimmer necks.

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Reply #2 posted 03/29/22 9:11am

ElectricKGod

JorisE73 said:

According to Dave Rusan and his guitar techs his clouds had custom slimmer necks, so I guess all his customized guitar had also slimmer necks.



I suspected something like that was the case.. thanx Joris
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Reply #3 posted 03/29/22 8:28pm

lavendardrumma
chine

I wonder when that started? It's unlikely he had a custom guitar to learn from, but by all accounts he impressed people before the fame. He also borrowed that classic guitar from The Roots guy for a performance.

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Reply #4 posted 03/30/22 12:31am

JorisE73

lavendardrummachine said:

I wonder when that started? It's unlikely he had a custom guitar to learn from, but by all accounts he impressed people before the fame. He also borrowed that classic guitar from The Roots guy for a performance.


Rusan told the story of the cloud guitar, he said that after he built the first one with the standard Gobson specs for the movie Prince loved it and ordered two more for the tour but needed slimmer necks to get more action out of it.

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Reply #5 posted 03/30/22 11:50am

lavendardrumma
chine

JorisE73 said:

lavendardrummachine said:

I wonder when that started? It's unlikely he had a custom guitar to learn from, but by all accounts he impressed people before the fame. He also borrowed that classic guitar from The Roots guy for a performance.


Rusan told the story of the cloud guitar, he said that after he built the first one with the standard Gobson specs for the movie Prince loved it and ordered two more for the tour but needed slimmer necks to get more action out of it.


Right, not disputing that, but I am pointing out he was able to play adult sized guitars, and it couldn't have been that drastic or else he woudn't have been able to swap guitars with people the times it happened.

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Reply #6 posted 03/30/22 12:00pm

LoveGalore

lavendardrummachine said:



JorisE73 said:




lavendardrummachine said:


I wonder when that started? It's unlikely he had a custom guitar to learn from, but by all accounts he impressed people before the fame. He also borrowed that classic guitar from The Roots guy for a performance.




Rusan told the story of the cloud guitar, he said that after he built the first one with the standard Gobson specs for the movie Prince loved it and ordered two more for the tour but needed slimmer necks to get more action out of it.




Right, not disputing that, but I am pointing out he was able to play adult sized guitars, and it couldn't have been that drastic or else he woudn't have been able to swap guitars with people the times it happened.



He isn't saying Prince wasn't using adult sized guitars, lol. A slimmer neck doesn't mean a shorter neck.
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Reply #7 posted 03/30/22 4:22pm

lavendardrumma
chine

LoveGalore said:

lavendardrummachine said:


Right, not disputing that, but I am pointing out he was able to play adult sized guitars, and it couldn't have been that drastic or else he woudn't have been able to swap guitars with people the times it happened.

He isn't saying Prince wasn't using adult sized guitars, lol. A slimmer neck doesn't mean a shorter neck.


Well aware. I was making a joke.

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Reply #8 posted 03/30/22 11:44pm

JorisE73

lavendardrummachine said:

LoveGalore said:

lavendardrummachine said: He isn't saying Prince wasn't using adult sized guitars, lol. A slimmer neck doesn't mean a shorter neck.


Well aware. I was making a joke.


For info:
Gibson standard is a full 'adult' sized guitar like the cloud just not to Fender Specs.
Gibson standard is 3/4 and Fender standard is 4/4. Almost everyone who plays a Gibson plays a 3/4 unless it's a custom 4/4 build according to Fender specs.

thumbs up!

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Reply #9 posted 03/31/22 7:26am

jazzz

JorisE73 said:



lavendardrummachine said:




LoveGalore said:


lavendardrummachine said: He isn't saying Prince wasn't using adult sized guitars, lol. A slimmer neck doesn't mean a shorter neck.


Well aware. I was making a joke.




For info:
Gibson standard is a full 'adult' sized guitar like the cloud just not to Fender Specs.
Gibson standard is 3/4 and Fender standard is 4/4. Almost everyone who plays a Gibson plays a 3/4 unless it's a custom 4/4 build according to Fender specs.

thumbs up!


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Standard Gibson scale length is 24,75 inch, while Fender scale length is 25,5 inch. This difference of 0,75 inch is not enough to speak of 3/4 vs. 4/4. Both Gibson and Fender standard sizes are full-size ("4/4") measurements, but Gibson only a bit smaller. Scale length is not unambiguously related to neck width, as meant in the OP.
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Reply #10 posted 03/31/22 7:32am

jazzz

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Furthermore, it is clear that Prince was perfectly capable of playing factory-made (non-custom) guitars, also when using the thumb-over-neck technique in the left hand. After all, in the beginning of his career, he played several standard models, such as the Hohner Madcat, Gibson models and Fender Telecasters and Stratocasters.
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Reply #11 posted 03/31/22 10:24am

lavendardrumma
chine

jazzz said:

. Furthermore, it is clear that Prince was perfectly capable of playing factory-made (non-custom) guitars, also when using the thumb-over-neck technique in the left hand. After all, in the beginning of his career, he played several standard models, such as the Hohner Madcat, Gibson models and Fender Telecasters and Stratocasters. .


Thank you. This is what I keep trying to say.

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Reply #12 posted 04/04/22 8:59am

ian

Also a common complaint from new guitarists is "oh my hands are too small" or whatever. That's not really a thing, any able-bodied person can play a regular guitar, you don't need big hands. Bear in mind that thumb-over-top players are typically doing it more for muting benefit or maybe fretting on the low E string, it's not hard once you get used to that position (rock position rather than classical).

The comment about the acoustic set, "Cream" etc - I've played that purple Taylor guitar actually and it is a small body, a parlour guitar essentially. It was custom made for him so the neck was kinda comfortable / slim in terms of the carve, but I'd argue that's a Taylor thing anyway, they specialize in guitars for touring musicians who aren't exclusively acoustic players etc so often their necks are less chunky than a Martin equivalent. It's more the nut width than the neck shape I think, that makes it feel comfortable (for an acoustic).

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Reply #13 posted 04/04/22 9:45am

jazzz

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Also, note that adults as well as children from around 14 years of age can play full-sized Classical guitars, which have much wider necks compared to electric guitars or steel-strings. Further, when playing an electric or steel-string higher up the neck, the neck gets wider. Again, no problem for most people, including those with smaller hands.
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