Phase3 said:

Truly a gorgeous package. Makes me want to order a 2nd CE so I don't mess up one.

fredmagnus said:

Of course, everything goes back to normal : that's why the 7' of Do Me Baby announced back in October hasn't still be shipped, amd prices still very high.

RODSERLING said:

fredmagnus said:

Indeed. Because of the vinyl shortage, last year we had to wait almost 4 months after the W2A announcement. I think that also maybe the reason for D&P SDE being finally postponed.

For Syracuse, it's only 2 months so it seems the situation is back to normal.

So now, apart from legal issues, there is no reason for the Estate to hold back the SDEs anymore.

We will know for sure this fall.

Of course, everything goes back to normal : that's why the 7' of Do Me Baby announced back in October hasn't still be shipped, amd prices still very high.

Everything will go back to normal.

Believe it or not.

In fact, prices were always high if you really want to know.

Then again, they're only as high as those who bitch about it.

Prices will never go down. Live with it.

In 1987 I payd for a new CD something comparable as the price today; around 20 EU or $.

And the quality of a CD was either AAD or ADD.

Only classical music was abvailable on DDD formatn and that was far more expensive. Just sayin'.

Vinyls back then were somehow less expensive, around between 12 up to 16 EU or $ for a new one, but never were 180gr. Rather 120gr. And artwork quality was thin.

Price tags are still on the side of my old shit. That's how I know it.

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SDE is a complete other thing.

Though I remember well paying a shitload (75 EU or $) just for a new 4 CD package of James Brown's 'Star Time' back in 1991. And those boxes were not to compare with any SDE today, although it was considdered one.

Vannormal said:

Are you kidding prices went up for like 30% in a few months.
The Musicology vinyl was priced 25€ when released, it jumped to 31 € last year, now it cost 36€ in the same store.
About 20€ for a vinyl was the norm, now it's more 30€.
The huge increasing in prices for the vinyl format in the last few months is not even debatable.

WB could well do a Parade SDE : they own 100% of that album, and even the movie ( unlike SOTT or D&P).
They absolutely don't need Sony to release that.

Still, they don't do it. Why, if not for a vinyl shortage?

Vannormal said:

Well if there's no vinyl shortage and it's legal rights that prevents D&P SDE then they should release another album like W2A instead of milking this concert. We really need an online store for the vault material.

MIRvmn1 said:

Vannormal said:

There is no vinyl shortage anymore.

There are more plants active now singe a year and a halF, from what i heard from a friend working in a vinyl print plant.

Think, there would be no Prince & The Revolution Live! release if there was a shortage.

The reason why SDEs are hold back has more to do with legal rights than anything else, concerning releases in th US and Europe. Simple as that.

Well if there's no vinyl shortage and it's legal rights that prevents D&P SDE then they should release another album like W2A instead of milking this concert. We really need an online store for the vault material.

if there are legal rights issues they should work out the kinks and move forward. it would seem to be in the best interest of all parties involved to sort out any 'problems' so they can all just have a clear picture of what they want to do in the future and what they can do, without being dependent on one or more other companies approval for everything.

but hey, in the meantime I'll take another "W2A" type studio album

JoeyCococo said:

Milty2 said:

Yes I hear parts I never heard before too. It almost sounds like it was also remixed. I think this LGC is also an edit. I seem to remember it having the same arrangement as the 12' remix.

OK, i hear that bit at 5:34 which tells me the release is worth a little of my time...at least, purchase of a digital download. It makes me wonder why this showed up for purchase a year ago on hdtracks.com...i bought it and it sucked.

ok, changing my mind...buying this release. The blu Ray prob won't be much better but I do think it'll be improved. The real draw for me is the cd which I think is going to sound great...his guitar on Let's Go (clip on YT) sounds meaty and I have to hear what they have done with the amazing playing on Purple Rain...very awesome.

iveivan said:

Remastering is the music industry's emperors new clothes. Someone remasters some songs and we rave about it even though it's not much different and it could be the same person mastered previous versions that we are now saying are no good.

I should get into this remastering business.

[Edited 3/30/22 0:51am]

[Edited 3/30/22 0:51am]

If you don't hear the massive improvement on the SOTT remaster, I think you need a hearing check.

JoeyCococo said:

Just throwing it out there but it has indeed been remixed. That's part of the marketing language as well. Not just remastered.

LoveGalore said:

JoeyCococo said:

ok, changing my mind...buying this release. The blu Ray prob won't be much better but I do think it'll be improved. The real draw for me is the cd which I think is going to sound great...his guitar on Let's Go (clip on YT) sounds meaty and I have to hear what they have done with the amazing playing on Purple Rain...very awesome.

Just throwing it out there but it has indeed been remixed. That's part of the marketing language as well. Not just remastered.

Oh it's definitely been remixed, it's night and day different. Some instruments are now way louder and the guitar riff sounds too buried in the mix.

RODSERLING said:

Vannormal said:

Everything will go back to normal.

Believe it or not.

In fact, prices were always high if you really want to know.

Then again, they're only as high as those who bitch about it.

Prices will never go down. Live with it.

In 1987 I payd for a new CD something comparable as the price today; around 20 EU or $.

And the quality of a CD was either AAD or ADD.

Only classical music was abvailable on DDD formatn and that was far more expensive. Just sayin'.

Vinyls back then were somehow less expensive, around between 12 up to 16 EU or $ for a new one, but never were 180gr. Rather 120gr. And artwork quality was thin.

Price tags are still on the side of my old shit. That's how I know it.

-

SDE is a complete other thing.

Though I remember well paying a shitload (75 EU or $) just for a new 4 CD package of James Brown's 'Star Time' back in 1991. And those boxes were not to compare with any SDE today, although it was considdered one.

Are you kidding prices went up for like 30% in a few months. The Musicology vinyl was priced 25€ when released, it jumped to 31 € last year, now it cost 36€ in the same store. About 20€ for a vinyl was the norm, now it's more 30€. The huge increasing in prices for the vinyl format in the last few months is not even debatable. WB could well do a Parade SDE : they own 100% of that album, and even the movie ( unlike SOTT or D&P). They absolutely don't need Sony to release that. Still, they don't do it. Why, if not for a vinyl shortage?

Again.

There. Is. No. Vinyl. Shortage.

If it's not debatable, you must be french. Nah, I'm joking.

Anyways.

If the prices in your local retail (or online) went up,

it's due to costs of the use of energy to produce or deliver.

The production of a vinyl record or CD remained the same though.

Check it.

-

By the way, you can shop around to find a less expensive deal.

There's always a difference in every country.

Bart often rightfully leaves us a list of multiple choices/prices.

You can also buy more than just one piece (online), and your send costs will be low(er too for instance).

Or be patient, and buy it when it's to be found in a bargain crate.

I work like that, and it helps.

[Edited 4/14/22 5:12am]

LoveGalore said:

JoeyCococo said:

ok, changing my mind...buying this release. The blu Ray prob won't be much better but I do think it'll be improved. The real draw for me is the cd which I think is going to sound great...his guitar on Let's Go (clip on YT) sounds meaty and I have to hear what they have done with the amazing playing on Purple Rain...very awesome.

Just throwing it out there but it has indeed been remixed. That's part of the marketing language as well. Not just remastered.

i agree...his guitar sounds way up in the mix...exactly what I'd want from a live album.