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Reply #180 posted 03/31/22 3:15am

johnpiex

RODSERLING said:

Vannormal said:

Will not buy it.

Not even one rehearsal included (& there are damn good ones).

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The comments on the official instagram release page are quite harsch towards The Estate and this release.

Rightfully so imho.

How is on facebook ? (I don't have it)

People's comments are pretty important (to them).

Will buy it on sales. The booklet seems ludicrous, some pictures of the concert, here amd there, some blank pages with no text at all. The thing is, clearly Sony can't release anything new for now. They can only release something that has already been released in some form in the past. Hence the blu-ray of a concert that wasn't even shot on film from the start. It's clearly a B-plan solution. That surely must have something to do with the current juridical hiatus/ battle concerning the estate. It also proves that back in 2017 Sony could have also done that work of restoration, but didn't bother to do it. Still no news of the planned Live/ documentary shot on film in 1983, that was first announced to be part of the Purple Rain Deluxe in 2017. It was rumoured to go on Apple the following year, but still nothing. Maybe that's Sony who has legally the rights as of now, but WB must think that's unfair cause they were supposed to do a restoration work on it already.


I think that's the real problem here. "Hey, buy this again because we couldn't be arsed to give you a quality product the first time round." If it was part of a comprehensive Purple Rain SDE, which Howe has alluded to, fine. But as a stand-alone? Nah.

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Reply #181 posted 03/31/22 5:39am

billymeade

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i was told by the wizards here that there was a vinyl shortage

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Reply #182 posted 03/31/22 6:10am

garneren

MusicFan20Ten said:

Finally, if there is a PR SDE coming like I've seen mentioned on here, this release means there'll hopefully be a new/different video and audio show included with it. First Ave '83 maybe, or something else entirely? I don't think anyone has mentioned that prospect yet


That is actually the only positive thing I've heard about this release. Yes, this pointless release must make the prospect of "First Avenue August 3rd 1983" being included in a future Purple Rain SDE slightly more likely. Now the question is, will it see the light of day in our lifetime?

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Reply #183 posted 03/31/22 7:19am

Phase3

I will be purchasing this
$40 for 2 cds and 1 bluray sounds like a great deal.I have always wanted the audio for this concert on a official cd.Plus the dvd of this concert had very bad picture quality..maybe one day we will get a bluray of the lovesexy concert
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Reply #184 posted 03/31/22 7:51am

RODSERLING

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i was told by the wizards here that there was a vinyl shortage



That's why they didn't release an SDE last year with 15 vinyls.
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Reply #185 posted 03/31/22 9:58am

billymeade

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RODSERLING said:

billymeade said:

i was told by the wizards here that there was a vinyl shortage

That's why they didn't release an SDE last year with 15 vinyls.

ah. but there was enough vinyl for Welcome 2 America, the legacy reissues, and now a three-record concert?

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Reply #186 posted 03/31/22 11:56am

RODSERLING

billymeade said:



RODSERLING said:


billymeade said:

i was told by the wizards here that there was a vinyl shortage



That's why they didn't release an SDE last year with 15 vinyls.


ah. but there was enough vinyl for Welcome 2 America, the legacy reissues, and now a three-record concert?



Welcome 2 America had 2 vinyls, not 13 or 15.
So that release was doable.
Even the limited vinyl single of do me baby that was due to January, has been pushed back to late April. For now.
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Reply #187 posted 03/31/22 1:15pm

TrivialPursuit

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Phase3 said:

I will be purchasing this $40 for 2 cds and 1 bluray; sounds like a great deal. I have always wanted the audio for this concert on a official cd. Plus the dvd of this concert had very bad picture quality. Maybe one day we will get a bluray of the lovesexy concert


Ditto. $40 is good for three disks in a nice package.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #188 posted 03/31/22 2:08pm

SquirrelMeat

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Strange that the CD/Blu-Ray is much cheaper here in the UK. $27 equivalent.

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Reply #189 posted 03/31/22 3:10pm

Genesia

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Well, that's underwhelming.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #190 posted 03/31/22 3:38pm

LILpoundCAKE

TrivialPursuit said:

Phase3 said:

I will be purchasing this $40 for 2 cds and 1 bluray; sounds like a great deal. I have always wanted the audio for this concert on a official cd. Plus the dvd of this concert had very bad picture quality. Maybe one day we will get a bluray of the lovesexy concert


Ditto. $40 is good for [....] a nice package.


giggle


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Reply #191 posted 03/31/22 4:35pm

TrivialPursuit

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LILpoundCAKE said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Ditto. $40 is good for [....] a nice package.


giggle


I approvate of this message.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #192 posted 04/01/22 1:44am

Vannormal

RODSERLING said:

billymeade said:

ah. but there was enough vinyl for Welcome 2 America, the legacy reissues, and now a three-record concert?

Welcome 2 America had 2 vinyls, not 13 or 15. So that release was doable. Even the limited vinyl single of do me baby that was due to January, has been pushed back to late April. For now.

Who ever said it was going to be 13 or 15 vinyl release ?!

Never heard that before...

is this an assumption (the usual...)

or did i miss out on something...

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #193 posted 04/01/22 2:03am

LILpoundCAKE

TrivialPursuit said:

LILpoundCAKE said:


giggle


I approvate of this message.


lol highfive

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Reply #194 posted 04/01/22 9:39am

onlyforaminute

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So the movie of the concert is still on May 1st?
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #195 posted 04/01/22 5:17pm

RODSERLING

Vannormal said:



RODSERLING said:


billymeade said:



ah. but there was enough vinyl for Welcome 2 America, the legacy reissues, and now a three-record concert?



Welcome 2 America had 2 vinyls, not 13 or 15. So that release was doable. Even the limited vinyl single of do me baby that was due to January, has been pushed back to late April. For now.

Who ever said it was going to be 13 or 15 vinyl release ?!


Never heard that before...


is this an assumption (the usual...)


or did i miss out on something...



Just use your logic.
SOTT SDE was made of 13 vinyls.
D&P = 2 vinyls.
The b-sides, remixes = at least 5 vinyls ( including 90 minutes of Get Off remixes).
One concert = 3 vinyls.

That's already 10 vinyls.

Then you can guess that if they make an SDE they have at least 2 or 3 Cds of unreleased material. That's what fans want above all.
That makes for 4 up to 6 more vinyls.

That's why you can't compare a 2LP release such as W2A, to an SDE.
I always said the estate/WB/ Sony should give up the " All vinyls " Concept, to include instead CDs or audio cassettes.

Keep the album + the unreleased stuff on vinyl : that makes sense. That's the core of the project.

Then the b-sides and the concert on CDs/ cassette in the same boxset.
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Reply #196 posted 04/02/22 9:15am

bobgeorge2

The remastered version of Purple Rain live from syracuse is now on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm03wqLY3Nc

[Edited 4/2/22 9:19am]

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Reply #197 posted 04/02/22 10:34am

ElGorillos

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bobgeorge2 said:

The remastered version of Purple Rain live from syracuse is now on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm03wqLY3Nc

[Edited 4/2/22 9:19am]



Look at the date first (and/or views in this case) the next time wink

"27,940,213 views May 22, 2020".

EDIT; my bad. I stand corrected, you were right. Sorry.
The video still looked so awful that I didn't check the quality settings.

[Edited 4/2/22 11:13am]

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Reply #198 posted 04/02/22 11:01am

nayroo2002

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bobgeorge2 said:

The remastered version of Purple Rain live from syracuse is now on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm03wqLY3Nc

[Edited 4/2/22 9:19am]

Nice!

They fixed the opening verse!

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #199 posted 04/03/22 2:12am

Ramzoo

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The drop-out didn't bother me. It was a mic issue, right ?
2 B honest, I'll keep the Bernie Grundman version 4 my iPod.
"Money won't buy U happiness but it'll pay 4 the search."
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Reply #200 posted 04/03/22 5:17am

EnglishGent2

If a vinyl shortage is all that's holding back SDE releases, they should release without vinyl and put vinyl versions out when they can. The fans of vinyl will buy them whenever they are released.

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Reply #201 posted 04/04/22 3:36am

Vannormal

RODSERLING said:

Vannormal said:

Who ever said it was going to be 13 or 15 vinyl release ?!

Never heard that before...

is this an assumption (the usual...)

or did i miss out on something...

Just use your logic. SOTT SDE was made of 13 vinyls. D&P = 2 vinyls. The b-sides, remixes = at least 5 vinyls ( including 90 minutes of Get Off remixes). One concert = 3 vinyls. That's already 10 vinyls. Then you can guess that if they make an SDE they have at least 2 or 3 Cds of unreleased material. That's what fans want above all. That makes for 4 up to 6 more vinyls. That's why you can't compare a 2LP release such as W2A, to an SDE. I always said the estate/WB/ Sony should give up the " All vinyls " Concept, to include instead CDs or audio cassettes. Keep the album + the unreleased stuff on vinyl : that makes sense. That's the core of the project. Then the b-sides and the concert on CDs/ cassette in the same boxset.

Not my logic at all.

There never was a true discription ofa not even announced release of D&P SDE.

So, there goes your theory.

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Glad they don't listen to you.

I only want vinyls. I don't care for again horrible executed new CD versions.

But every one his own.

I do respect those who want CD's and I would love you to respect those who love vinyls too.

Something for everyone.

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BTW, It's always possible to create a mix of audio cariers in a SDE; vinyl CD, DVD, BlueRay, Cassettes, 45 RPMs... etc.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #202 posted 04/06/22 3:16am

shamonka

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CD version price is now £34.99 on Amazon UK sad
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Reply #203 posted 04/06/22 4:39am

Poplife88

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EnglishGent2 said:

If a vinyl shortage is all that's holding back SDE releases, they should release without vinyl and put vinyl versions out when they can. The fans of vinyl will buy them whenever they are released.

yeahthat

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Reply #204 posted 04/06/22 8:10am

bozojones

Poplife88 said:



EnglishGent2 said:


If a vinyl shortage is all that's holding back SDE releases, they should release without vinyl and put vinyl versions out when they can. The fans of vinyl will buy them whenever they are released.




yeahthat



Yep. I know vinyl is their cash cow, but it's kind of insane that they're delaying all of these potential releases over a single niche format. The kind of people interested in vinyl sets are going to buy it whether it comes out tomorrow or several months down the road, so you might as well appease the other fans who just want to hear some new shit.
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Reply #205 posted 04/06/22 11:54am

johnpiex

bozojones said:

Poplife88 said:



EnglishGent2 said:


If a vinyl shortage is all that's holding back SDE releases, they should release without vinyl and put vinyl versions out when they can. The fans of vinyl will buy them whenever they are released.




yeahthat



Yep. I know vinyl is their cash cow, but it's kind of insane that they're delaying all of these potential releases over a single niche format. The kind of people interested in vinyl sets are going to buy it whether it comes out tomorrow or several months down the road, so you might as well appease the other fans who just want to hear some new shit.


Completely true. And they might even tempt some buyers to purchase both formats by staggering the releases.
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Reply #206 posted 04/08/22 1:24am

Vannormal

Poplife88 said:

EnglishGent2 said:

If a vinyl shortage is all that's holding back SDE releases, they should release without vinyl and put vinyl versions out when they can. The fans of vinyl will buy them whenever they are released.

yeahthat

There is no vinyl shortage anymore.

There are more plants active now singe a year and a halF, from what i heard from a friend working in a vinyl print plant.

Think, there would be no Prince & The Revolution Live! release if there was a shortage.

The reason why SDEs are hold back has more to do with legal rights than anything else, concerning releases in th US and Europe. Simple as that.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #207 posted 04/08/22 6:36am

fredmagnus

Vannormal said:

Poplife88 said:

yeahthat

There is no vinyl shortage anymore.

There are more plants active now singe a year and a halF, from what i heard from a friend working in a vinyl print plant.

Think, there would be no Prince & The Revolution Live! release if there was a shortage.

The reason why SDEs are hold back has more to do with legal rights than anything else, concerning releases in th US and Europe. Simple as that.

Indeed. Because of the vinyl shortage, last year we had to wait almost 4 months after the W2A announcement. I think that also maybe the reason for D&P SDE being finally postponed.

For Syracuse, it's only 2 months so it seems the situation is back to normal.

So now, apart from legal issues, there is no reason for the Estate to hold back the SDEs anymore.

We will know for sure this fall.

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Reply #208 posted 04/08/22 7:01am

EnglishGent2

fredmagnus said:

Vannormal said:

There is no vinyl shortage anymore.

There are more plants active now singe a year and a halF, from what i heard from a friend working in a vinyl print plant.

Think, there would be no Prince & The Revolution Live! release if there was a shortage.

The reason why SDEs are hold back has more to do with legal rights than anything else, concerning releases in th US and Europe. Simple as that.

Indeed. Because of the vinyl shortage, last year we had to wait almost 4 months after the W2A announcement. I think that also maybe the reason for D&P SDE being finally postponed.

For Syracuse, it's only 2 months so it seems the situation is back to normal.

So now, apart from legal issues, there is no reason for the Estate to hold back the SDEs anymore.

We will know for sure this fall.

What's happening in the autumn that will clear up the issue of whether or not it's a legal problem?

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Reply #209 posted 04/08/22 8:50am

Phase3

Idk if this has been posted yet but here is the unboxing video for the new box set

https://youtu.be/eifJczGjd6E
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