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Reply #150 posted 03/30/22 7:07am

JoeyCococo

fernandomachado said:

JoeyCococo said:

was any work done on the video???

They pushed the original source as far it could go. Check for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svqYueRzAh0

OK..tx..do you think this improves upon the terrible original release and the terrible/identical 2017 dVD?

I can't tell only b/c I can't recall the old release, just that they were bad.

tx

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Reply #151 posted 03/30/22 7:14am

EnglishGent2

Ordered the CD/Blu-Ray set from Amazon UK £20.80 seems like a reasonable price.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09P5QPP1L

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Reply #152 posted 03/30/22 7:30am

fernandomachad
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JoeyCococo said:

fernandomachado said:

They pushed the original source as far it could go. Check for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svqYueRzAh0

OK..tx..do you think this improves upon the terrible original release and the terrible/identical 2017 dVD?

I can't tell only b/c I can't recall the old release, just that they were bad.

tx

even if it's coming from the same video source, the codecs for DVD do add some compression artifacts (those blocky pixels) that a Bluray Disc - with more modern codecs and a lot of disc space to play around - does not have to deal with it.

so, apparently, it's the same video (with some tinkering, recoloring and without any compression) and enhanced audio and options (new master was found and remixed for surround and atmos flavors)

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Reply #153 posted 03/30/22 7:32am

RODSERLING

I will wait for some reviews and pictures before ordering it. Not in a hurry to own this anyway.
At least, this is a reasonable price, for once.
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Reply #154 posted 03/30/22 7:47am

EnglishGent2

RODSERLING said:

I will wait for some reviews and pictures before ordering it. Not in a hurry to own this anyway. At least, this is a reasonable price, for once.

Pictures here : https://store.prince.com/...-live-1985

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Reply #155 posted 03/30/22 8:38am

Vannormal

Couldn't it simply be that they just can't get through all the Vault stuff fast enough ?

Just think about it.

There never is any news form The Vault, meaning what they find, what they do, what they did.

From what I once heard by someone here, is that Michael Howe bascially is alone... possibly with a very very small team (maybe) of two three people.

Couldn't that be the reason why there is so little news about new stuff ?

I mean, even with that small team and after 6 years.. really ?

Is Michael Howe still on the job ?

When was the last time we heard somthing from him/them personally ?

That rumour of the D&P SDE could not just be a slip of the tongue... right ?

Same for the thought/idea of the Parade SDE.

There wasn't even a rumour towards that one, just the one made up by the fans I believe, right?.

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Another thing; on October 14th 2021 they promised us the 45 rpm of 'Do Me Baby'.

That's 5 monhts and a half by now, and still nothing in my box.

They sure have my money for more then 5 1/2 months now.

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And then this remaster of something we the fans heard and seen a zillion times ...(maybe not the regular crowd though).

What is their actual plan ?

And that Chicago exhibition experience thing is pathetic is many ways..

(damn I start to hate the word experience so much)

''The Next Big Thing'' really is no news, ain't that a bitch!

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #156 posted 03/30/22 8:57am

MusicFan20Ten

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Personally I'm really excited for and happy about this release. Last year I had an itching to listen to this show, spending ages looking for an audio copy after Spotify removed it, so to have it coming on CD at last is great. I remember when the PR Deluxe came with this show, I thought "why isn't this on blu ray?", so it's one stone killing two birds for me. I love the new artwork too, and even though I can't tell the difference in audio between the original and this remaster, seeing some of the comments here makes me happy because there's so many people saying there's at least some audio improvement. Finally, if there is a PR SDE coming like I've seen mentioned on here, this release means there'll hopefully be a new/different video and audio show included with it. First Ave '83 maybe, or something else entirely? I don't think anyone has mentioned that prospect yet
eye dont think U heard me . . .
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Reply #157 posted 03/30/22 8:58am

love2thenines2
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Don't 4get and i was hope 4 this new release but finally i remembered that Sony can't release any unreleased Vault content from 78/95 always under WB control 4 ever ..except...if there is an agreement between Sony/WB/The Estate ...until now there is not...Sony can release only back official catalogue from Warner ..so until now releases with unreleased extra from the vault >Only WB/The Estate ! cool

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Reply #158 posted 03/30/22 9:05am

AZStreet

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laytonian said:



Landonfunkmonkey said:


Sounds like they are just trying to hype their show. Reminds me of Casey Rain and the Vagina incident.


Please. Don't remind.




For the uninitiated, what happened?
"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"

"Who's the foo singing will it's would"
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Reply #159 posted 03/30/22 9:12am

laytonian

TrivialPursuit said:

I will say the sound is better. Different. It's not so clangy and tinny, there is bass to it. It's interesting to hear the echo on his voice different, too. That stuck out. I mean, you can only do so much with it, but if Bernie Grundman had tracks available to him - and why wouldn't he - then it sorta shows.

I even noticed a little guitar lick from Wendy around the 5:34 point that we would've never heard before.

Most of y'all gonna shit on it, but whatever. It's a vast improvement over the original and what any fan could do with a VHS-sourced audio.


I think it's wonderful. Better than I expected so I ordered the CD-BluRay set.
They they their job: tempted me to purchase.

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Reply #160 posted 03/30/22 9:12am

nayroo2002

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Prince and The Revolution: Live -Collector’s Edition Box Set (3LP + 2CD + Blu-ray)

120 + shipping

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #161 posted 03/30/22 9:17am

laytonian

AZStreet said:

laytonian said:


Please. Don't remind.

For the uninitiated, what happened?


He promoted himself by promising to reveal "Vagina" ONLY if enough people shared and commented on a post.
That caused me to permanently block him on FB.
I was sad to see him pop up in a tribute video promoted by Paisley Park, frizzy blonde hair and all.
Is he stilla round? LOL

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Reply #162 posted 03/30/22 9:24am

bozojones

I feel like any improvement to the audio and video of this release will be marginal at best. I watched the DVD once when it came with the Purple Rain deluxe and it was a fun little novelty but hardly felt like something worth buying again on its own. If people are satisfied with this, more power to them.
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Reply #163 posted 03/30/22 9:41am

Landonfunkmonk
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AZStreet said:

laytonian said:



Landonfunkmonkey said:


Sounds like they are just trying to hype their show. Reminds me of Casey Rain and the Vagina incident.


Please. Don't remind.




For the uninitiated, what happened?


Casey Rain said he had some info but would only divulge it once he reached 777 or some figure with 7 in it on twitter.

He didn't reach his figure but in the end gave up the ifo. All it was, was the lyrics to Vagina before the release.
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #164 posted 03/30/22 11:06am

themanfromnept
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This time I pass. I invest in Prince's "new music", but this operation seems to me to be really short-term. The sound quality of Let's Go Crazy may be better than the DVD, but it remains rather mediocre.

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Reply #165 posted 03/30/22 11:07am

SoulAlive

bozojones said:

I feel like any improvement to the audio and video of this release will be marginal at best. I watched the DVD once when it came with the Purple Rain deluxe and it was a fun little novelty but hardly felt like something worth buying again on its own. If people are satisfied with this, more power to them.

I feel the same way.

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Reply #166 posted 03/30/22 11:16am

FragileUnderto
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An I excited? Not at all lol

But to have an enhanced version on bluray, 5.1 sound.
Which I'll probably watch once shrug
A new mix on audio cd?
$39 on Amazon sounds fare.
Sure I want it

But I have not yet properly watched or listen to the new video on YouTube
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #167 posted 03/30/22 11:19am

JoeyCococo

If CHris James is involved..the guy who did the ATMOS mix on the W2A Blu Ray...i am buying.

The www.superdeluxeedition.com has a article on the set...says it was also video corrected.

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Reply #168 posted 03/30/22 11:29am

MIRvmn1

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LILpoundCAKE said:

is this now going to count as a major release and an excuse for them to say 'we only have room for 1 big release each year' and so release nothing else this year?

remember, recordstore day is The Gold Experience reissue on vinyl so this and that combined is what, 2 major releases rolleyes

as if the people who are interested in the good stuff don't have enough attention span to buy and enjoy 2 SDE releases a year. come on for fcksake just put out
D&P and PARADE this year so we can at least move forward a bit.




D&P SDE and Parade SDE are probably ready but instead they choose to release stuff we already have. It's just doesn't make sense and it's the most pointless release since 4ever which at least had Moonbeam Levels.
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Reply #169 posted 03/30/22 12:03pm

onlyforaminute

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So is this going to be one release a year with every 3 years one will be a different version of Purple Rain? What a frikkin bummer.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #170 posted 03/30/22 12:16pm

RODSERLING

JoeyCococo said:

If CHris James is involved..the guy who did the ATMOS mix on the W2A Blu Ray...i am buying.



The www.superdeluxeedition.com has a article on the set...says it was also video corrected.



It says :

For the blu-ray, the picture is said to have been “newly restored” although since this wasn’t shot on film it remains to be seen how good this will actually look.

So it wasn't shot on film, so it can't be remastered, so it cannot a crystal clear picture.
Remind me of The Bad 25 and Visions thievery. From Sony too.
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Reply #171 posted 03/30/22 1:55pm

madison

I guess this thread has missed their mark

There is no bonus footage just use your old DVD …… and turn it up louder … it’ll save you some money but if you wanna waste it they’ll take it
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Reply #172 posted 03/30/22 2:11pm

Purpleminister
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How come only the CD version is showing in the Amazon US store. Are they not selling the vinyl version in the United States on Amazon?
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Reply #173 posted 03/30/22 7:01pm

TheGloved1

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That picture quality for the video looks significantly better to me. Remember it will always be a video source, but they cleaned it up nice and it's actually watchable now.

The audio sounds great too, very dynamic.

I'm gonna pre-order the CD/Blu-Ray. This is a great performance we take for granted since we've had access for years; I appreciate that they put in the effort to spruce up the presentation as much as possible. It'll be nice to turn this on for folks now, instead of avoiding it due to '80s era quality concerns.
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Reply #174 posted 03/30/22 8:19pm

muleFunk

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Purpleminister1980 said:

How come only the CD version is showing in the Amazon US store. Are they not selling the vinyl version in the United States on Amazon?


Only on the Prince site.
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Reply #175 posted 03/30/22 10:31pm

RODSERLING

madison said:

I guess this thread has missed their mark

There is no bonus footage just use your old DVD …… and turn it up louder … it’ll save you some money but if you wanna waste it they’ll take it
[Edited 3/30/22 13:56pm]
[Edited 3/30/22 13:57pm]

Yes, where sre the 15 unreleased minutes?
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Reply #176 posted 03/31/22 12:14am

Raevene

muleFunk said:

Purpleminister1980 said:
How come only the CD version is showing in the Amazon US store. Are they not selling the vinyl version in the United States on Amazon?
Only on the Prince site.

Not true. It's right here: https://www.amazon.com/Li...09P5RS352/

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Reply #177 posted 03/31/22 12:16am

fredmagnus

onlyforaminute said:

So is this going to be one release a year with every 3 years one will be a different version of Purple Rain? What a frikkin bummer.

Agree. This release is a f..... shame mad

[Edited 3/31/22 0:16am]

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Reply #178 posted 03/31/22 1:58am

Vannormal

Will not buy it.

Not even one rehearsal included (& there are damn good ones).

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The comments on the official instagram release page are quite harsch towards The Estate and this release.

Rightfully so imho.

How is on facebook ? (I don't have it)

People's comments are pretty important (to them).

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #179 posted 03/31/22 2:56am

RODSERLING

Vannormal said:

Will not buy it.


Not even one rehearsal included (& there are damn good ones).


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The comments on the official instagram release page are quite harsch towards The Estate and this release.


Rightfully so imho.


How is on facebook ? (I don't have it)


People's comments are pretty important (to them).



Will buy it on sales. The booklet seems ludicrous, some pictures of the concert, here amd there, some blank pages with no text at all.

The thing is, clearly Sony can't release anything new for now.
They can only release something that has already been released in some form in the past. Hence the blu-ray of a concert that wasn't even shot on film from the start. It's clearly a B-plan solution.
That surely must have something to do with the current juridical hiatus/ battle concerning the estate.


It also proves that back in 2017 Sony could have also done that work of restoration, but didn't bother to do it.
Still no news of the planned Live/ documentary shot on film in 1983, that was first announced to be part of the Purple Rain Deluxe in 2017.
It was rumoured to go on Apple the following year, but still nothing.

Maybe that's Sony who has legally the rights as of now, but WB must think that's unfair cause they were supposed to do a restoration work on it already.
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