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Reply #30 posted 03/20/22 8:53am

jazzz

LoveGalore said:

Art Official Age is so bad it's almost comical. If anyone needed to hear a shit album, I'd see they get ahold of that one.

Edit: and to the pedants, AOA is a WB album.

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Except for the opening track, I am actually quite moved by the melancholy of AOA. On the other hand, HNR1 is easily P's worst album ever for me, although I like "June", it fits AOA...
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Reply #31 posted 03/20/22 9:17am

RODSERLING

claudemorton said:

Wtf is going on here, there are so many great songs being listed as "bad", is there something I'm not getting?

As far as an actual bad record I can put together, here is one actually bad record.

1.) The Arms of Orion


2.) I'm Yours


3.) Love Machine


4.) Hot Summer


5.) Money Don't Matter 2 Nite


6.) 3 Chains O' Gold


7.) I Rock, Therefore I Am


8.) Right The Wrong


9.) Betcha by Golly Wow!


10.) Purple & Gold


11.) Fixurlifeup


12.) (bonus track) Baltimore



You are quoting some very good songs too.
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Reply #32 posted 03/20/22 10:13am

PJMcGee

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LoveGalore said:

Art Official Age is so bad it's almost comical. If anyone needed to hear a shit album, I'd see they get ahold of that one.

Edit: and to the pedants, AOA is a WB album.


I don't know how anyone, let alone a Prince fan, can dismiss Clouds, Breakdown, U Know, Way Back Home and Time. (I also like the weird sci-fi Affirmations.) Is the rest spotty to blah? Yes, but the former absolutely redeem the collection.

Way Back Home feels like Prince exposing his very heart.
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Reply #33 posted 03/20/22 1:09pm

rusty1

RODSERLING said:

Here s to make a very bad Prince record :

1999
Little Red Corvette
Kiss
Purple Rain
When Doves Cry
I would Die 4 you
Darling Nikki
Baby I m a star
Sign O The Times
Take Me With U
TMBGITW
Gold


haha you're kidding,right?
BOB4theFUNK
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Reply #34 posted 03/20/22 2:13pm

SoulAlive

Oh I forgot about “I Rock,Therefore I Am” lol add that song to my list.
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Reply #35 posted 03/20/22 4:43pm

TrivialPursuit

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rusty1 said:

RODSERLING said:
Here s to make a very bad Prince record : 1999 Little Red Corvette Kiss Purple Rain When Doves Cry I would Die 4 you Darling Nikki Baby I m a star Sign O The Times Take Me With U TMBGITW Gold
haha you're kidding,right?


Consider the source, man.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #36 posted 03/20/22 5:20pm

bobgeorge77

Ok, here is my take:

1) Graffiti Bridge

2) Jughead

3) Push

4) We March

5) Free

6) Ronnie Talk To Russia

7) Now

8) Money Don't Matter

9) Right The Wrong

10) Daddy Pop

11) Walk Don't Walk

12) 200 Balloons

.

Really not a graat album at all (but still more listenable then most stuff out there!!) Free is the best song on the album IMO when I look at it. Maybe I will want to take that out and replace it with something else, but I will keep it for now. Really can't say much bad about his pre-Graffiti work. Loved it all!!!

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Reply #37 posted 03/20/22 6:03pm

GustavoRibas

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TrivialPursuit said:

Make your own 10-12 song bad Prince record, using only officially released songs from the Warner recorded years, through 1996 (Chaos and Disorder being the end of the era). This includes b-sides, but not remixes. We can't delve into a Junior Vasquez, or all the takes on "Cream" and "Gett Off" or whoever mix to make a list.

Everything from Emancipation and after that is spotty as a default, so it'd be pointless to wade through that here.

I'll start, with a small caviat (one being recorded in the WB years, but released much later).

  1. Rebirth of the Flesh
  2. Life Can Be So Nice
  3. Arrogance
  4. The Cross
  5. Jughead
  6. Lemon Crush
  7. Shy
  8. Push
  9. Money Don't Matter 2 Nite
  10. Superfunkycalifragisexy
  11. It
  12. Girl



There are others, but these are some of the worst offenders, to me. Let's see yours. 1979-1996 only.

I agree with part of the list, and I will do mine soon, but Money Dont matter is a very good song. In fact, it has an interesting melody / harmony and one of the songs I can show easily to a non-fan (different from many others)

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Reply #38 posted 03/20/22 10:17pm

LoveGalore

PJMcGee said:

LoveGalore said:

Art Official Age is so bad it's almost comical. If anyone needed to hear a shit album, I'd see they get ahold of that one.

Edit: and to the pedants, AOA is a WB album.


I don't know how anyone, let alone a Prince fan, can dismiss Clouds, Breakdown, U Know, Way Back Home and Time. (I also like the weird sci-fi Affirmations.) Is the rest spotty to blah? Yes, but the former absolutely redeem the collection.

Way Back Home feels like Prince exposing his very heart.


I do like Time. But it's like Prince fast food music. Same with Way Back Home which could've been a great song but actually just feels like 2/3 of the way there for me. Clouds, U Know, and whatever else is on that record could easily have never been released and I'd be no worse off for it.

AOA and PlectrumElectrum followed the awful 20TEN and the three of them plus HNR1 sound like Prince's creativity collapsing in on itself.
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Reply #39 posted 03/20/22 11:38pm

RODSERLING

rusty1 said:

RODSERLING said:

Here s to make a very bad Prince record :

1999
Little Red Corvette
Kiss
Purple Rain
When Doves Cry
I would Die 4 you
Darling Nikki
Baby I m a star
Sign O The Times
Take Me With U
TMBGITW
Gold


You were all kidding there apparently, quoting masterpieces in your lists, so why couldn't I do the same?

haha you're kidding,right?
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Reply #40 posted 03/21/22 3:24am

leecaldon

claudemorton said:

Wtf is going on here, there are so many great songs being listed as "bad", is there something I'm not getting?

As far as an actual bad record I can put together, here is one actually bad record.

1.) The Arms of Orion

2.) I'm Yours

3.) Love Machine

4.) Hot Summer

5.) Money Don't Matter 2 Nite

6.) 3 Chains O' Gold

7.) I Rock, Therefore I Am

8.) Right The Wrong

9.) Betcha by Golly Wow!

10.) Purple & Gold

11.) Fixurlifeup

12.) (bonus track) Baltimore

I absolutely LOVE five of those songs, and very much like another two.

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Reply #41 posted 03/21/22 3:33am

RODSERLING

GustavoRibas said:



TrivialPursuit said:


Make your own 10-12 song bad Prince record, using only officially released songs from the Warner recorded years, through 1996 (Chaos and Disorder being the end of the era). This includes b-sides, but not remixes. We can't delve into a Junior Vasquez, or all the takes on "Cream" and "Gett Off" or whoever mix to make a list.

Everything from Emancipation and after that is spotty as a default, so it'd be pointless to wade through that here.

I'll start, with a small caviat (one being recorded in the WB years, but released much later).



  1. Rebirth of the Flesh

  2. Life Can Be So Nice

  3. Arrogance

  4. The Cross

  5. Jughead

  6. Lemon Crush

  7. Shy

  8. Push

  9. Money Don't Matter 2 Nite

  10. Superfunkycalifragisexy

  11. It

  12. Girl




There are others, but these are some of the worst offenders, to me. Let's see yours. 1979-1996 only.





I agree with part of the list, and I will do mine soon, but Money Dont matter is a very good song. In fact, it has an interesting melody / harmony and one of the songs I can show easily to a non-fan (different from many others)



Right, I have a friend of mine who has that song on its favourite playlist. That one with Kiss, that's about all he likes from Prince.
It's a timeless song.
As a kid I thought it was a 70's number from Lionel Richie or somebody like that.
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Reply #42 posted 03/21/22 3:37am

leecaldon

jazzz said:

LoveGalore said:
Art Official Age is so bad it's almost comical. If anyone needed to hear a shit album, I'd see they get ahold of that one. Edit: and to the pedants, AOA is a WB album.
. Except for the opening track, I am actually quite moved by the melancholy of AOA. On the other hand, HNR1 is easily P's worst album ever for me, although I like "June", it fits AOA... .

i agree, after the opening track it's rather fantastic album. His late period gem.

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Reply #43 posted 03/21/22 4:45am

RJOrion

Soft And Wet
With You
Ronnie Talk 2 Russia
Jack U Off
Delirious
Darling Nikki
Paisley Park
The Cross
Cream
3 Chains O Gold
Orgasm
I Like It There
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Reply #44 posted 03/21/22 5:11am

littlemissG

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bozojones said:


  1. Delirious

  2. Forever In My Life

  3. I Love U In Me

  4. Scarlet Pussy

  5. The Ladder

  6. Hot Thing

  7. International Lover

  8. Anotherloverholenyohead

  9. The Arms Of Orion

  10. God

  11. Free



Just to make it slightly more challenging, I kept it confined to the 80's. Very ballad heavy, but a lot of my least favorite golden era Prince songs are ballads. I'd probably buy this album just to smash it with a hammer, honestly lol


Disagree totally with numbers 6, 7, 8. They are songs that help turn my blood purple.
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Reply #45 posted 03/21/22 5:20am

littlemissG

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RODSERLING said:

GustavoRibas said:



TrivialPursuit said:


Make your own 10-12 song bad Prince record, using only officially released songs from the Warner recorded years, through 1996 (Chaos and Disorder being the end of the era). This includes b-sides, but not remixes. We can't delve into a Junior Vasquez, or all the takes on "Cream" and "Gett Off" or whoever mix to make a list.

Everything from Emancipation and after that is spotty as a default, so it'd be pointless to wade through that here.

I'll start, with a small caviat (one being recorded in the WB years, but released much later).



  1. Rebirth of the Flesh

  2. Life Can Be So Nice

  3. Arrogance

  4. The Cross

  5. Jughead

  6. Lemon Crush

  7. Shy

  8. Push

  9. Money Don't Matter 2 Nite

  10. Superfunkycalifragisexy

  11. It

  12. Girl




There are others, but these are some of the worst offenders, to me. Let's see yours. 1979-1996 only.





I agree with part of the list, and I will do mine soon, but Money Dont matter is a very good song. In fact, it has an interesting melody / harmony and one of the songs I can show easily to a non-fan (different from many others)



Right, I have a friend of mine who has that song on its favourite playlist. That one with Kiss, that's about all he likes from Prince.
It's a timeless song.
As a kid I thought it was a 70's number from Lionel Richie or somebody like that.


I agree with RODSERLING on Matter Don’t Matter Tonight. It’s lyrically strong and has a video that looks like something Spike Lee would produce.
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Reply #46 posted 03/21/22 5:40am

TheEclecticEle
ctric

Fascinating how different people view things. Just as for every terrible song there's someone who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, for every great song there's someone who thinks it's pants. Generally I'm sat in the corner with a "it takes a world of all sorts" shrug, but seriously, "Anotherloverholenyohead" on a "worst of" list? eek

I didn't want to put a lot of energy into this, but I'd say most of The Truth, about half of The Vault, Free off 1999 and quite a few off Graffiti Bridge.

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Reply #47 posted 03/21/22 6:57am

erik319

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1. Graffiti Bridge

2. Batdance

3. God

4. Arrogance

5. The flow

6. Sweet Baby

7. Orgasm

8. I rock therefore I am

9. 200 balloons

10. Love & Sex (original song)

11. Lemon Crush

Horrible.

blah blah blah
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Reply #48 posted 03/21/22 11:43am

SoulAlive

you guys..."Free" is a great song!! smile I'm surprised that is so disliked by many fans

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Reply #49 posted 03/21/22 12:40pm

bozojones

TheEclecticElectric said:

Fascinating how different people view things. Just as for every terrible song there's someone who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, for every great song there's someone who thinks it's pants. Generally I'm sat in the corner with a "it takes a world of all sorts" shrug, but seriously, "Anotherloverholenyohead" on a "worst of" list? eek

I didn't want to put a lot of energy into this, but I'd say most of The Truth, about half of The Vault, Free off 1999 and quite a few off Graffiti Bridge.

I just never understood the appeal of "Anotherlover...", it doesn't click with me at all. On paper it should be a song that I love but something about the execution just feels lacking. The verses are weirdly obtuse in a way that feels like Prince was trying to push outside of the box, yet they feel stilted and don't flow well; the chorus feels uninspired and generic. Altogether, it just makes for one of the least interesting songs in Prince's golden years for me personally.

Even segues like "Venus de Milo" serve their purpose on that album, "Anotherlover..." just feels like a failed attempt at a hit pop song.

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Reply #50 posted 03/21/22 3:00pm

eyewishuheaven

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bozojones said:

TheEclecticElectric said:

Fascinating how different people view things. Just as for every terrible song there's someone who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, for every great song there's someone who thinks it's pants. Generally I'm sat in the corner with a "it takes a world of all sorts" shrug, but seriously, "Anotherloverholenyohead" on a "worst of" list? eek

I didn't want to put a lot of energy into this, but I'd say most of The Truth, about half of The Vault, Free off 1999 and quite a few off Graffiti Bridge.

I just never understood the appeal of "Anotherlover...", it doesn't click with me at all. On paper it should be a song that I love but something about the execution just feels lacking. The verses are weirdly obtuse in a way that feels like Prince was trying to push outside of the box, yet they feel stilted and don't flow well; the chorus feels uninspired and generic. Altogether, it just makes for one of the least interesting songs in Prince's golden years for me personally.

Even segues like "Venus de Milo" serve their purpose on that album, "Anotherlover..." just feels like a failed attempt at a hit pop song.


As far as Parade goes, Anotherlover is probably my least favourite song on it. I don't dislike it, but I like the other songs more. But I'll tell ya, the 12" version knocks me right out!

PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman!
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Reply #51 posted 03/21/22 10:54pm

LoveGalore

bozojones said:



TheEclecticElectric said:


Fascinating how different people view things. Just as for every terrible song there's someone who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, for every great song there's someone who thinks it's pants. Generally I'm sat in the corner with a "it takes a world of all sorts" shrug, but seriously, "Anotherloverholenyohead" on a "worst of" list? eek



I didn't want to put a lot of energy into this, but I'd say most of The Truth, about half of The Vault, Free off 1999 and quite a few off Graffiti Bridge.




I just never understood the appeal of "Anotherlover...", it doesn't click with me at all. On paper it should be a song that I love but something about the execution just feels lacking. The verses are weirdly obtuse in a way that feels like Prince was trying to push outside of the box, yet they feel stilted and don't flow well; the chorus feels uninspired and generic. Altogether, it just makes for one of the least interesting songs in Prince's golden years for me personally.

Even segues like "Venus de Milo" serve their purpose on that album, "Anotherlover..." just feels like a failed attempt at a hit pop song.



It fits into the album better than Kiss does, IMO. The album comes to a screeching hault with Kiss, like a quick detour to a gimmicky radio hit territory, before going back to experimental funk.
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Reply #52 posted 03/22/22 3:51am

JorisE73

bozojones said:

Even segues like "Venus de Milo" serve their purpose on that album, "Anotherlover..." just feels like a failed attempt at a hit pop song.



I somewhat agree, i like the song but it don't think it fits on the album, and maybe it feels lik a failed attempt because the song wasn't finished and Prince finished it after the album was released.
Prince said the album wasn't finished and was rushed to release and he finished it after itwas released, i would love to hear the finished tracks so hopefully the Estte will put these on the SDE if it evr coms out.

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Reply #53 posted 03/22/22 6:55am

McGee

littlemissG said:

I agree with RODSERLING on Matter Don’t Matter Tonight. It’s lyrically strong and has a video that looks like something Spike Lee would produce.

That's probably because Spike Lee did produce it biggrin

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Reply #54 posted 03/22/22 7:33am

bozojones

LoveGalore said:

bozojones said:



TheEclecticElectric said:


Fascinating how different people view things. Just as for every terrible song there's someone who thinks it's the best thing since sliced bread, for every great song there's someone who thinks it's pants. Generally I'm sat in the corner with a "it takes a world of all sorts" shrug, but seriously, "Anotherloverholenyohead" on a "worst of" list? eek



I didn't want to put a lot of energy into this, but I'd say most of The Truth, about half of The Vault, Free off 1999 and quite a few off Graffiti Bridge.




I just never understood the appeal of "Anotherlover...", it doesn't click with me at all. On paper it should be a song that I love but something about the execution just feels lacking. The verses are weirdly obtuse in a way that feels like Prince was trying to push outside of the box, yet they feel stilted and don't flow well; the chorus feels uninspired and generic. Altogether, it just makes for one of the least interesting songs in Prince's golden years for me personally.

Even segues like "Venus de Milo" serve their purpose on that album, "Anotherlover..." just feels like a failed attempt at a hit pop song.



It fits into the album better than Kiss does, IMO. The album comes to a screeching hault with Kiss, like a quick detour to a gimmicky radio hit territory, before going back to experimental funk.

I don't disagree that Kiss sticks out like a sore thumb, but it's a waaay better song across the board.
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Reply #55 posted 03/23/22 2:36am

Vannormal

christobole said:

I searched through his massive output for hours and hours and came up with this list:

  1. Chaos And Disorder (4:18)
  2. I Like It There (3:15)
  3. Dinner With Delores (2:45)
  4. The Same December (3:23)
  5. Right The Wrong (4:38)
  6. Zannalee (2:43)
  7. I Rock, Therefore I Am (6:14)
  8. Into The Light (2:46)
  9. I Will (3:35)
  10. Dig U Better Dead (4:00)
  11. Had U (1:25)


LOL

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #56 posted 03/24/22 2:42pm

Astasheiks

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TrivialPursuit said:

Make your own 10-12 song bad Prince record, using only officially released songs from the Warner recorded years, through 1996 (Chaos and Disorder being the end of the era). This includes b-sides, but not remixes. We can't delve into a Junior Vasquez, or all the takes on "Cream" and "Gett Off" or whoever mix to make a list.

Everything from Emancipation and after that is spotty as a default, so it'd be pointless to wade through that here.

I'll start, with a small caviat (one being recorded in the WB years, but released much later).

  1. Rebirth of the Flesh
  2. Life Can Be So Nice
  3. Arrogance
  4. The Cross
  5. Jughead
  6. Lemon Crush
  7. Shy
  8. Push
  9. Money Don't Matter 2 Nite
  10. Superfunkycalifragisexy
  11. It
  12. Girl



There are others, but these are some of the worst offenders, to me. Let's see yours. 1979-1996 only.

Can't believe you put The Cross on there, hhhmmm. sad One of My Favorites. yes Oh Well, I guess each to their own likes biggrin razz

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Reply #57 posted 03/24/22 5:09pm

TrivialPursuit

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Astasheiks said:

Can't believe you put "The Cross" on there, hhhmmm. sad One of My Favorites. yes Oh Well, I guess each to their own likes biggrin razz


I always felt like it was just missing something. Some of the lyrics are a little corny. But the sound on it, especially in the beginning and first half, are so faint, and covered in analog hiss. I suppose it's just not well done. It sounds like a bad Fostex 4-track demo.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #58 posted 03/24/22 5:20pm

SquirrelMeat

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1. Graffiti Bridge

2. Ronnie Talk To Russia

3. I Rock, therefore I Am

4. The Lubricated Lady

5. My Love Is Forever

6. Life Can Be So Nice

7. Orgasm

8. Arrogance

9. Do It All Night

10. Push

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Reply #59 posted 03/27/22 5:06am

RJOrion

Im seeing "Arrogance" on some lists ... wow...thats in my top 20 of all songs ever made...by anyone.
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