FrankieCoco1 said:

Appears to be sold out now.

No, still available.

fortuneandserendipity said:

TheBigBang said:

Still too much for just the blu-ray, which is all I would want the set for. I'll still never understand why that blu-ray is exclusive to the set. They would have sold a ton of just the blu-ray.

Greed and capitalism. They went rogue with the Japan import model, which is always about coughing up extra money for additional tracks.

No one went rough and it had nothing to do with greed or capitalism. CDs at the time cost a lot more in Japan and other countries in those days. They added bonus tracks to give the CDs added value for the stupid high prices as a way to make them feel better about paying it. Those CDs weren't meant to be imported to the US as a way to extract money from US citizens, they were meant to make the crazy international prices easier to swallow for international buyers. Greed and capitalism both suck, but you're blaming the wrong sins in this case.

rockford said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Greed and capitalism. They went rogue with the Japan import model, which is always about coughing up extra money for additional tracks.

No one went rough and it had nothing to do with greed or capitalism. CDs at the time cost a lot more in Japan and other countries in those days. They added bonus tracks to give the CDs added value for the stupid high prices as a way to make them feel better about paying it. Those CDs weren't meant to be imported to the US as a way to extract money from US citizens, they were meant to make the crazy international prices easier to swallow for international buyers. Greed and capitalism both suck, but you're blaming the wrong sins in this case.

Hello IanRG. Is that indeed you, Ian? I don't think you're necessarily disagreeing with me. Clearly, there's an extra reason to buy the Japan import if you're from that part of the world, living nearby, or wherever in the world. I know for a fact as well, Japan imports end up in record stores on these shores. So clearly there's a market for them here too, even if it's just odd surplus stock, and more obsessive fans will lap them up. And the import versions definitely sell for more here than the standard version. I think you're also making a point about the exchange rate making the products more expensive for certain foreign buyers. These things are complicated. Despite having a strong yen? it appears Japan had rampant inflation over the years, which obviously leads to higher prices today.

All said and done, there's no excuse for the estate not to do a CD/Blu-ray or Blu-ray only edition for fans worldwide. That IS greed and capitalism.

fortuneandserendipity said:

rockford said:

No one went rough and it had nothing to do with greed or capitalism. CDs at the time cost a lot more in Japan and other countries in those days. They added bonus tracks to give the CDs added value for the stupid high prices as a way to make them feel better about paying it. Those CDs weren't meant to be imported to the US as a way to extract money from US citizens, they were meant to make the crazy international prices easier to swallow for international buyers. Greed and capitalism both suck, but you're blaming the wrong sins in this case.

Hello IanRG. Is that indeed you, Ian? I don't think you're necessarily disagreeing with me. Clearly, there's an extra reason to buy the Japan import if you're from that part of the world, living nearby, or wherever in the world. I know for a fact as well, Japan imports end up in record stores on these shores. So clearly there's a market for them here too, even if it's just odd surplus stock, and more obsessive fans will lap them up. And the import versions definitely sell for more here than the standard version. I think you're also making a point about the exchange rate making the products more expensive for certain foreign buyers. These things are complicated. Despite having a strong yen? it appears Japan had rampant inflation over the years, which obviously leads to higher prices today.

All said and done, there's no excuse for the estate not to do a CD/Blu-ray or Blu-ray only edition for fans worldwide. That IS greed and capitalism.

So, a somewhat lavish $100 boxset reeks of greed? How come I never hear anyone complaining about De Beers' diamond marketing campaign, which has somehow managed to eternally keep the little stones expensive, even though they are not rare, and are of very little value to anyone who isn't interested in womens' glittering cleavages? An alligator handbag by brand The Row will cost you $33.000 at Bergdorf Goodman, and a painting by living painter Gerhard Richter can easily set you back a cool $40.000.000. But not offering the product combo that YOU desire is greed? Neither musicians nor record companies are forced to create and sell music, nor is anyone forced to spend money on their products. Perhaps, in the kind of society that you idealize, you'd be forced to spend, let's say, 5% of your annual income on entertainment, regardless of whether you like the product or not. Or, perhaps no one would even be bothering selling music, because it just wouldn't be worth it. Greed is a big word and is easily thrown around when someone can't have things HIS way.

Tool started selling a signed (by all four band members) 180 gram 5 LP (five sides of music, five sides of etchings) box set of their last album at their merch table a couple nights ago, available only to their vip package holders (so they paid more for their tickets already), for $810.00 That's right, $810.00 (it's actually only $750 but the arena service charges and taxes made it $810.00).

So you were saying?


https://consequence.net/2022/02/tool-fear-inoculum-signed-vinyl/


Btw, they're already being flipped on ebay with asking prices of up to $2000.00

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christobole said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Hello IanRG. Is that indeed you, Ian? I don't think you're necessarily disagreeing with me. Clearly, there's an extra reason to buy the Japan import if you're from that part of the world, living nearby, or wherever in the world. I know for a fact as well, Japan imports end up in record stores on these shores. So clearly there's a market for them here too, even if it's just odd surplus stock, and more obsessive fans will lap them up. And the import versions definitely sell for more here than the standard version. I think you're also making a point about the exchange rate making the products more expensive for certain foreign buyers. These things are complicated. Despite having a strong yen? it appears Japan had rampant inflation over the years, which obviously leads to higher prices today.

All said and done, there's no excuse for the estate not to do a CD/Blu-ray or Blu-ray only edition for fans worldwide. That IS greed and capitalism.

So, a somewhat lavish $100 boxset reeks of greed? How come I never hear anyone complaining about De Beers' diamond marketing campaign, which has somehow managed to eternally keep the little stones expensive, even though they are not rare, and are of very little value to anyone who isn't interested in womens' glittering cleavages? An alligator handbag by brand The Row will cost you $33.000 at Bergdorf Goodman, and a painting by living painter Gerhard Richter can easily set you back a cool $40.000.000. But not offering the product combo that YOU desire is greed? Neither musicians nor record companies are forced to create and sell music, nor is anyone forced to spend money on their products. Perhaps, in the kind of society that you idealize, you'd be forced to spend, let's say, 5% of your annual income on entertainment, regardless of whether you like the product or not. Or, perhaps no one would even be bothering selling music, because it just wouldn't be worth it. Greed is a big word and is easily thrown around when someone can't have things HIS way.

It's alright. I'll just get my gifted celeb friend to get it for me. She owns mansions.

Really, I can afford it myself. I'm a bit militant about these things. If my post was more secure, I would have bit already. Time to make alternative arrangements.

The W2A Deluxe package is worth it @ ANY price. The Deluxe set is breathtakingly beautilful! Plus well worth the effort of the promotional efforts of the Estate since it was Prince's(r.i.p.) highest charted selling album since 2014. It debut @ Number 4 on the Billboard 200 with first week sells of 60,000 copies. Beating. Art Official Age which debut at number five on the Billboard 200 and sold 51,000 copies in its first week in September 2014.