Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Prince actually play the Guitar Solo in 777-9311 and then gave it to Jesse to play when perform with The Time? Or did Jesse play the original Solo?

Germanegro said:

I think that guitar was all Jesse--totally his styling. Prince gave the band their core material, but the reason why that band stood out among his protoge projects is that each of those musicians had their own hot licks that would really rival Prince's own presentation of the moment.

I read somewhere (Prince Vault, Per nElson book? here?) that Prince purposely played the solo like Jesse. Not sure what the truth is.

GaryMF said:

Germanegro said:

I think that guitar was all Jesse--totally his styling. Prince gave the band their core material, but the reason why that band stood out among his protoge projects is that each of those musicians had their own hot licks that would really rival Prince's own presentation of the moment.

I read somewhere (Prince Vault, Per nElson book? here?) that Prince purposely played the solo like Jesse. Not sure what the truth is.

I read somewhere that Prince played the solo in Jesse's style and told him "you play a mean solo on this on."

[Edited 12/16/21 23:16pm]

Dangit! Yeah--that's right, Prince could mimic other guitarists' style! Maddening. Musta drove Jesse a little crazy.

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GaryMF said:

Germanegro said:

I think that guitar was all Jesse--totally his styling. Prince gave the band their core material, but the reason why that band stood out among his protoge projects is that each of those musicians had their own hot licks that would really rival Prince's own presentation of the moment.

I read somewhere (Prince Vault, Per nElson book? here?) that Prince purposely played the solo like Jesse. Not sure what the truth is.

thebanishedone said:

First of Prince didn't mimick Jesse but he did use Jesses guitar and pedals . second think i still can't believe that in this era of interenet there are people still question who plays it.it screams Prince. We all know how Jesse plays fast pentatonic noodling with no strong melodic content.

I was with you until "We all know how Jesse plays fast pentatonic noodling with no strong melodic content." . Whilst I will always prefer Prince (perhaps bias, I'm too involved to be objective), I'd defend Jesse's playing as deserving quite a bit more than just "noodling" and there is certainly plenty of melody and irrestible groove. My personal evidence for this: -

- Love Struck - c'mon, that major 3rd, flat 7th moving into 4th, root octace up little repeat is sick. In fact I'm reminded of it somehow whenever Prince plays that gorgeous little lick towards the end of the sacrific of victor version of The Ride (at round 5:12). BTW, that;s one of my all time fav solos.

- I'm just wanting you - beautfiullly melodic and soulful solo. Articulate playing.

- She I can't resist - Funk face stuff, great tone.

- Merciful - Gorgeous solo, hypnotic, shades of Pali Gap Jimi. Probably my fav of his.

Just saying, I know you're a guitar head as I am too. Interested to hear your opinion on the above tracks.

I saw in some good sites about Prince that he played all instruments on this one (and it´s prrobably true, since he played the bass and used the Linn preset). He was surely pretending it was another player. And I believe only a guy like Prince would have so much freedom to do all those noises in the end.

machinegun said:

GustavoRibas said:

I always believed the solo was played by P (probably on Jesse's G&L guitar or a Fender Stratocaster with a whammy bar). The guitar licks (and tone) are similar to what P played on "Lady Cab Driver".

Prince played all the instruments according to various sources...

https://princesongs.org/2.../777-9311/

This is his REAL COUSIN... HIPnoTiK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guitars and drums on the ONE!

Prince...as you should know, I'm the one, along with the Head of the Protectorate, releasing Prince music to the African people of this country...per my BROTHER/COUSIN'S wishes...!

His Vault music is STILL coming! Just not for everybody. I decide who. A good majority of Africans here, in this United States, will get it. The other people may not get his music, depending on them being good people or not.

ANYWAY...TO LET YOU KNOW...PRINCE PLAYED EVERYTHING ON 777-9311! He played it from the Console Control side of the Studio...you know, the side where producers usually produce from. He was eating a sandwich, playing some of the solo with one hand!

My COUSIN WAS NO JOKE! One of the greatest, along with our OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS, like the originator of ROCK & ROLL...My Great Uncle, Chuck Berry! My other COUSIN BROTHER ON GUITAR...the soulful, incendiary, ever flame of modern rock, JIMI HENDRIX! One of the BRUHS who was laying it down ON THE BLUES...THE CREATOR OF THE ELECTRIC GUITAR - ONE OF MY GREAT UNCLES - ALBERT KING! One of the most sampled, hardcore like every REAL MAN ABOVE in this POST! THE Man's Man...UNBELIEVABLE DANCER, UNBELIEVABLY FUNNY, UNBELIEVABLE WRITER, INNOVATOR OF AT LEAST THREE GENRES, AND COULD PLAY MORE INSTRUMENTS THAN YOU THINK AND WAS ONE OF THE BEST DANCER'S EVER...my GREAT UNCLE - JAMES BROWN! oh yeh...HA! Let MY GREAT UNCLE STEVIE WONDER MAN/WONDERLAND/INNERANDOUTERVISION...We love HIM - Like he said...THAT'S FAIR, right! (ALL IN LOVE IS FAIR!) Don't forget, ARETHA FRANKLIN! HAHAHAHAHAHAH! Who else? It would take too long, but the greatest rappers EVER are related to ME!

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Astasheiks said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Prince actually play the Guitar Solo in 777-9311 and then gave it to Jesse to play when perform with The Time? Or did Jesse play the original Solo?

Prince PLAYED it on the Record. Jesse (and The Time) SLAYED IT LIVE!!!

Prince used Jesse Johnsons guitar.

thebanishedone said:

First of Prince didn't mimick Jesse but he did use Jesses guitar and pedals . second think i still can't believe that in this era of interenet there are people still question who plays it.it screams Prince. We all know how Jesse plays fast pentatonic noodling with no strong melodic content.

You must be a Guitarist or some other talented musician. I was speaking of lay people general terms that don't have a clue what you are talking about so they would not know if Prince or Jesse did the original Solo.

machinegun said:

thebanishedone said:

First of Prince didn't mimick Jesse but he did use Jesses guitar and pedals . second think i still can't believe that in this era of interenet there are people still question who plays it.it screams Prince. We all know how Jesse plays fast pentatonic noodling with no strong melodic content.

I was with you until "We all know how Jesse plays fast pentatonic noodling with no strong melodic content." . Whilst I will always prefer Prince (perhaps bias, I'm too involved to be objective), I'd defend Jesse's playing as deserving quite a bit more than just "noodling" and there is certainly plenty of melody and irrestible groove. My personal evidence for this: -

- Love Struck - c'mon, that major 3rd, flat 7th moving into 4th, root octace up little repeat is sick. In fact I'm reminded of it somehow whenever Prince plays that gorgeous little lick towards the end of the sacrific of victor version of The Ride (at round 5:12). BTW, that;s one of my all time fav solos.

- I'm just wanting you - beautfiullly melodic and soulful solo. Articulate playing.

- She I can't resist - Funk face stuff, great tone.

- Merciful - Gorgeous solo, hypnotic, shades of Pali Gap Jimi. Probably my fav of his.

Just saying, I know you're a guitar head as I am too. Interested to hear your opinion on the above tracks.

I'm glad I started The Thread. Now you have given me some Tunes I never heard before to go and check out!

GustavoRibas said:

I saw in some good sites about Prince that he played all instruments on this one (and it´s prrobably true, since he played the bass and used the Linn preset). He was surely pretending it was another player. And I believe only a guy like Prince would have so much freedom to do all those noises in the end.

Can remember some of these sites you speak about?

jdcxc said:

Prince played all the instruments according to various sources...

https://princesongs.org/2.../777-9311/

Very Cool Article! Thanks for posting!

Never Heard of that Prince Website.

[Edited 12/21/21 15:04pm]

typo

[Edited 12/21/21 21:27pm]

How many of you on here can Play this Solo and other Prince Guitar Solos very well?

[Edited 12/21/21 21:04pm]

Astasheiks said:

GustavoRibas said:

I saw in some good sites about Prince that he played all instruments on this one (and it´s prrobably true, since he played the bass and used the Linn preset). He was surely pretending it was another player. And I believe only a guy like Prince would have so much freedom to do all those noises in the end.

Can remember some of these sites you speak about?

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Princevault.com is usually very accurate. I remember I once saw a site with detailed info on The Time and I believe it was the first time I saw this info. But I forgot the name.

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And Prince himself said he was the only one who could play the bass in 777-9311 in Bass Player Magazine.

Astasheiks said:

Cool! You have a Band?

The bass.

You can always FEEL the bass.

Most songs are also recognised by the bassline.

Astasheiks said:

machinegun said:

I was with you until "We all know how Jesse plays fast pentatonic noodling with no strong melodic content." . Whilst I will always prefer Prince (perhaps bias, I'm too involved to be objective), I'd defend Jesse's playing as deserving quite a bit more than just "noodling" and there is certainly plenty of melody and irrestible groove. My personal evidence for this: -

- Love Struck - c'mon, that major 3rd, flat 7th moving into 4th, root octace up little repeat is sick. In fact I'm reminded of it somehow whenever Prince plays that gorgeous little lick towards the end of the sacrific of victor version of The Ride (at round 5:12). BTW, that;s one of my all time fav solos.

- I'm just wanting you - beautfiullly melodic and soulful solo. Articulate playing.

- She I can't resist - Funk face stuff, great tone.

- Merciful - Gorgeous solo, hypnotic, shades of Pali Gap Jimi. Probably my fav of his.

Just saying, I know you're a guitar head as I am too. Interested to hear your opinion on the above tracks.

I'm glad I started The Thread. Now you have given me some Tunes I never heard before to go and check out!

^^ Yeah, this.

Sydney said:

Sydney said:

Prince. He did everything but drum and sing on the first two Time albums. Jesse's solos come into play on Ice Cream Castle - I think that's him on My Drawers and I think the blues guitar on If The Kid Can't is Jesse. I've always wanted to know is the solo on Jerk Out Jesse when Morris says "cut em Jesse" but again I think it might be Prince?

THAT is Jesse!!