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If Prince had never changed after Purple Rain What if Prince decided to redo Purple Rain part 2,3,4 and if he had a album formula so he could try to top Purple Rain album and if he was wearing the same purple jacket ,same hair style and doing Purple Rain tour setlist every tour with almost no change except that with time he would go to lyp synched show what do you think it would happen? Would he still be hailed as a great amazing artist and best live acr like people used to say about Michael Jackson or do you think that critics would have tore Prince apart for those reasons? | |
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. Some people like change, even challenging change, some don't. Even here there are those who don't like how Prince challenged us and others who find this part of his appeal. . I am reminded about a story Angus Young of AC/DC said: A person criticised AC/DC on one of their latter studio albums because it sounded like the previous one. Angus told him that, no, it sounds like previous five albums! |
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We certainly wouldn't be discussing him now. FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent. | |
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he could have milked the eras a bit more with the material from the deluxe and some of the live shows from that time .. he could have done an around the world in a day tour and laid into the b sides a love bizarre and some of the family material .. stretching and filling all that out i think the public would have been more ready for parade and sott .. and all those outtakes .. if he had stretched out that whole 1999 - sott era in the span of 10 or 15 years deep diving into each albums era i think he would be far more admired .. imagine songs like crystal ball and last heart being in the live set or electric intercourse or we can fuck coming out during that time .. or power fantastic being in the set .. or love or money .. there was so much of his super genius songs just completetly burried during that time .. it gets patchy after sott and it all goes by so fast prior ... | |
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So is this thread just a thinly veiled attempt to slate MJ? | |
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MattyJam said: So is this thread just a thinly veiled attempt to slate MJ? No it's more like comparation.like if 1 guy pulled it of would the other 1 (Prince) had the same luck. You know Jackson is still hailed as 1 of the best live acts . | |
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That's a good question. I think P coud have rode the "P.R." train well until late 1985. They could have toured Europe and other countries (for the summer of 85), and came back to the states to do a few more shows in the fall. But I think even the most diehard fan would have gotten bored after awhile if he kept repeating and trying to top/outdo "P.R". | |
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The thing is if PRINCE had never changed album to album he never would have had Purple Rain. He was growing and changing on each record and that started to gain more and more of an audience, if Prince would have stayed the same 1999 never would have happened and there wouldnt have even been a Purple Rain. We have to remember that he needed to have some kind of solid success for anyone to invest the backing in a film etc... WB did have his back but had they not seen the growth and cross over appeal, they never would have bankrolled a film proejct. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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MJ was definitely better at lip syncing which he did a lot live. | |
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Prince would have been known more as a one-hit-wonder, kinda like the former T.T.D. He wouldn't have had half the opportunity to show how exceptional he was. | |
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thebanishedone said: What if Prince decided to redo Purple Rain part 2,3,4 and if he had a album formula so he could try to top Purple Rain album and if he was wearing the same purple jacket ,same hair style and doing Purple Rain tour setlist every tour with almost no change except that with time he would go to lyp synched show what do you think it would happen? Would he still be hailed as a great amazing artist and best live acr like people used to say about Michael Jackson or do you think that critics would have tore Prince apart for those reasons? He would have become Bruce Springsteen. | |
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Germanegro said: Prince would have been known more as a one-hit-wonder, kinda like the former T.T.D. He wouldn't have had half the opportunity to show how exceptional he was. Yeah, but in that scenario T.T.D. would have been known as a half-hit-wonder in comparison.  | |
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While we're slinging that hash, M.J., Madonna, Bon Jovi, etc. would have uncontested popularity as the entertainers of the era. Prince would have maybe been more like Jesse Johnson of today. NoSwan said: Germanegro said: Prince would have been known more as a one-hit-wonder, kinda like the former T.T.D. He wouldn't have had half the opportunity to show how exceptional he was. Yeah, but in that scenario T.T.D. would have been known as a half-hit-wonder in comparison. | |
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ATWIAD always sounded as a Purple Rain 2 to me. They are very similar a'd in the same style. |
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RODSERLING said: ATWIAD always sounded as a Purple Rain 2 to me. no they are not.With ATWIAD beats become less danceable ,more slow and intentionaly more druggy psychodelic .it's like linn drum got stoned and it was kind of chillin.Previous albums linn was having more a sense of urgency. also with the exception of mid section of the title song gone for good were lush Oberheim sounds and replaced with yamaha dx7 and roland d50 so that is a major change in sound.They are very similar a'd in the same style. | |
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. I've been telling people for years that Prince, in his defense, did not need to musically created a sequel to Purple Rain if he did not want to, especially if Teena Marie already did it with her Emerald City album! . | |
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thebanishedone said: RODSERLING said: ATWIAD always sounded as a Purple Rain 2 to me. no they are not.With ATWIAD beats become less danceable ,more slow and intentionaly more druggy psychodelic .it's like linn drum got stoned and it was kind of chillin.Previous albums linn was having more a sense of urgency. also with the exception of mid section of the title song gone for good were lush Oberheim sounds and replaced with yamaha dx7 and roland d50 so that is a major change in sound.They are very similar a'd in the same style. I agree.Purple Rain has a loud,powerful vibe/mood throughout and the songs are faster and more “in your face”. ATWIAD is slower and less powerful.It doesn’t rock nearly as hard.The “sense of urgency” you mentioned is absent from these songs. | |
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Graycap23 said: We certainly wouldn't be discussing him now. That’s what I feel too. Part of Prince’ staying power is how he constantly embraced change in his art, much to some of his listeners/critics’ dismay. | |
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I had previously laid the groundwork for a post Purple Rain Prince that I think would still have people talking today. I would've advised a new release in 1987, with the goal of pushing his sound even further. Major markets tour for same year. Summer of 1989 would be the Purple Rain follow-up movie and soundtrack and full tour into 1990. B-sides could've been the best records from ATWIAD, Parade and SOTT. He didn't have to keep the look per se, but keep the more rockish aspects of his style in tact. I believe that would've put him into the MJ terrian that we see today. Being that as it may I'm more than happy with what he did, but I know what I would've done had I had any influence.
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