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Thread started 12/24/21 6:22am

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Prince charts and sales 2021/2022

Part 1 : https://prince.org/msg/7/466493?&pg=1
Part 2 : https://prince.org/msg/7/467440
Part 3 : https://prince.org/msg/7/467440
Part 4 : https://prince.org/msg/7/467904

Worldwide charts and sales for Welcome 2 America :

Australia : 5-37-out!
Physical album sales : 2-7-8-16-41-51-44-50-out !

Austria : 3-17-36-58-out!
Belgium ( Flanders) : 2-3-10-21-28-108-104-119-101-141-out for 12 weeks- 142
Year-end charts : #161

Belgium : (Wallonia) : 2-23-25-35-99-139-out!
Canada : 26-out
Top sales : 2-19-out?

Czech : 92-out
Denmark : 12-out
Vinyl charts : 2-7-14-out?

Netherlands : 2-12-29-96-80-out !
Finland : 27-out !
France : 4 (4,900)-39 (1,500+)-68(1, 100)-83 (1, 000)-102 (850) -132 (700)-184 (650).-out!
Total : 11,000 including 3,000 SDE
Deutschland : 3-15-17-60-83-out!
Ireland : 25-out!
Italy : 26-out!
Physical : 9-9-49-out-46

Japan : 10 (6,373)-31 (1, 539)-51 (553)-84 (533) -33 (1, 540) -114 (357)-118 (384)- 271 (159)-out!
Total : 12,500, including 11,787 physical sales.

Norway : 39-out!
Poland : 42-out!
Portugal : 2-6-5-19-16-19-out-21-out-35-out
Scotland : 3 -17-out?
Spain : 7-out !
Vinyls charts : 2-4-16-23-33-64-83-75-74-out?
Swedien : 53-out?
Switzerland : 2-4-13-31-33-57-78-out (3weeks) -91-out!
Year-end charts : #93

UK Albums : 5 (6,034)- 111 (1,081)-out. Estimated total : 10,000.
UK album physical sales : 3-14-31-73-99-out !

US Billboard 200 : 4 (57k)-113-out!
US Top sales : 2 (50k)-7 (9k)-16 (5k)-12 (5k)-32 (3k)-44 (2k)-67 (2k)-82 (2k)--out.
US Top Current sales : 2-6-7-11-22-25-40-47-57-65-69-83-98-out for 7 weeks-86 (2k) -58(4k) - 82(2k)
Total Sales: 96,000
Total sales + streaming : 108,000

Wales : 2-18-39-out-100-60

Worlwide sales : 218,000
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Reply #1 posted 12/24/21 6:38am

RODSERLING

An old friend ( for sales?) is coming back this week on the US charts.
Which is very surprising, considering this is an hyper competitive week.
Was this album promoted or on sales somewhere?

US Billboard Charts (25/12/2021)

Top Album Sales

TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
28 37 189 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince


Top Current Album Sales
TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
86 Re-Entry 14 Welcome 2 America - Prince ( 2 )
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Reply #2 posted 12/24/21 7:38am

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Probably people buying gifts for friends that were fans and maybe they figure they dont have it. I have seen this featured on "gift ideas" in a bunch of Barnes and Noble locations so Im guessing other places like Target are doing similar things, sometimes a label will request front placement in ads, better get whatever they can on sales now during these two weeks or so.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #3 posted 12/25/21 7:12am

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Best selling albums in the US in 2021 so far, as of week 50

Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales
1 1,213,000 30 Adele 1,213,000
2 553,000 RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 553,000
3 505,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 787,000
4 502,000 SOUR Olivia Rodrigo 502,000

18 198,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,243,000
79 90,000 WELCOME 2 AMERICA Prince 90,000
??? 19,000 THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE Prince 2,956,000
??? 13,000 THE TRUTH Prince 13,000

Charts facts :

1. Welcome 2 America crossed this week the 100k
"copies" (90k pure sales + 10k equivalent streaming sales)

2.Of course, Purple Rain is on its way to reach the 200k mark in pure sales next week. The album currently stands at 339k copies this year (198k pure sales + 141k streaming equivalent sales)

3.Last year, the whole Prince catalogue sold a total in the US of 320k copies.
Now, as of week 50 only, Prince reaches that number...with only the 4 albums displayed here!

4. Just showing how this year was exceptional in sales :
Last year, only 2 albums reached the 500k mark.
As of week 50, there's already 4, and a 5th in the making.
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Reply #4 posted 12/25/21 8:52am

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RODSERLING said:

Best selling albums in the US in 2021 so far, as of week 50 Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales 1 1,213,000 30 Adele 1,213,000 2 553,000 RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 553,000 3 505,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 787,000 4 502,000 SOUR Olivia Rodrigo 502,000 18 198,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,243,000 79 90,000 WELCOME 2 AMERICA Prince 90,000 ??? 19,000 THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE Prince 2,956,000 ??? 13,000 THE TRUTH Prince 13,000 Charts facts : 1. Welcome 2 America crossed this week the 100k "copies" (90k pure sales + 10k equivalent streaming sales) 2.Of course, Purple Rain is on its way to reach the 200k mark in pure sales next week. The album currently stands at 339k copies this year (198k pure sales + 141k streaming equivalent sales) 3.Last year, the whole Prince catalogue sold a total in the US of 320k copies. Now, as of week 50 only, Prince reaches that number...with only the 4 albums displayed here! 4. Just showing how this year was exceptional in sales : Last year, only 2 albums reached the 500k mark. As of week 50, there's already 4, and a 5th in the making. [Edited 12/25/21 7:17am]


so interesting how Taylor outsold the artist of the year (according to billboard and time magazine) in Olivia Rodrigo, with a newly recorded old album that's only been out a five weeks.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #5 posted 12/29/21 6:03am

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Another huge week for Prince, during what is the most competitive week of the year.
W2A has incredible legs, considering there was zero promotion since the day of release. Not even an award nomination!


US Billboard Charts (01/01/2022)


Top Current Album Sales
TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
58 86 15 Welcome 2 America - Prince ( 2 )


The Billboard 200
TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
68 144 159 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) ‒ Prince And The Revolution ( 1 )

Top Album Sales
TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
15 28 190 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution
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Reply #6 posted 12/29/21 7:50am

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Wow, awesome! Thanks Rod!

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Reply #7 posted 12/30/21 9:06am

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ALBUM SALES WEEK 51

17 213,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,258,000
81 94,000 WELCOME 2 AMERICA Prince 94,000

As for his mentors.

83 90,000 KIND OF BLUE Miles Davis 3,894,000
92 84,000 ARE YOU EXPERIENCED Jimi Hendrix Experience 495,000
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Reply #8 posted 12/30/21 11:50am

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Wow, 15k for Purple Rain and 4k for W2A!
That's huge.
Let's hope W2A will have a decrease in price in January, as every other albums normally have a few months after release.
It seems that the estate releases ( Originals, Piano amd Mic) never were sold cheaper than the original price, which hurts catalogue sales.

W2A is the #25 best selling album released that year, without amy kind of promotion since day one, and got no awards nominations.
With just a little push ( cheap lyrics/archival music videos, tv performance from the vocal trio with the original musicians, they could have sold 200k copies.

They could have also done a tour focused on the album, it would have made money.
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Reply #9 posted 01/02/22 1:18am

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Funny :

The Truth is #1 ! It's the most purchased album by Discogs members in 2021.
Meaning is still the most sought-artist for music collectors.

https://blog.discogs.com/...s-in-2021/

A few years ago, Prince had the most expensive album on the Internet, with the Black Album.
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Reply #10 posted 01/02/22 5:02am

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Welcome 2 America is the 93th best selling album of the year 2021 in Switzerland.
It peaked at #2 and stayed on the charts for 8 weeks.

As an aside note, it seems W2A didn't make the best albums lists in the likes of NME, Rolling Stones, etc. despite good reviews when released and good sales. Really unfair.
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Reply #11 posted 01/03/22 1:46am

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Welcome 2 America is the 50th best selling album (CD/vinyl) of 2021 in Amazon. Com.
It regards apparently only the single CD/ 2 LP version.
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Reply #12 posted 01/03/22 10:23pm

antonb

Sorry about my post In the Truth discogs, I really happy actually because i really like that album. Im getting too cynical in my old age. My apologies to the poster.

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Reply #13 posted 01/04/22 12:49am

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antonb said:

Sorry about my post In the Truth discogs, I really happy actually because i really like that album. Im getting too cynical in my old age. My apologies to the poster.



You're welcome!
I never listened to The Truth in its entirety😱. I tried a few times like 15 years ago, but I was bored mid-course.
Since I don't have Crystal Ball, I was very interested in a reissue on CD ( with Kamasutra, but it's unlikely it will happen. And they don't have the rights for Kamasutra anyway.

Spending 45 bucks for the vinyl of The Truth is too far-stretched for me.
I guess if I found it on a wreckastore, I would have bought it though.
Too bad they printed only 13k copies worldwide.

But that's what made it a success in the Record Store Day.

For the next RCS, I think they will print more copies (my bet is on a NPGMC album such as Chocolate Invasion).
Vinyls are selling more and more, so that's likely.
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Reply #14 posted 01/04/22 5:48am

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RODSERLING said:

antonb said:

Sorry about my post In the Truth discogs, I really happy actually because i really like that album. Im getting too cynical in my old age. My apologies to the poster.

You're welcome! I never listened to The Truth in its entirety😱. I tried a few times like 15 years ago, but I was bored mid-course. Since I don't have Crystal Ball, I was very interested in a reissue on CD ( with Kamasutra, but it's unlikely it will happen. And they don't have the rights for Kamasutra anyway. Spending 45 bucks for the vinyl of The Truth is too far-stretched for me. I guess if I found it on a wreckastore, I would have bought it though. Too bad they printed only 13k copies worldwide. But that's what made it a success in the Record Store Day. For the next RCS, I think they will print more copies (my bet is on a NPGMC album such as Chocolate Invasion). Vinyls are selling more and more, so that's likely.

Fingers crossed for the Camille Album on RSD. But your probably rignt about the NPGMC.

THanks for what you do! I alway enjoy your post.

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Reply #15 posted 01/04/22 9:49am

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cooldayla said:



RODSERLING said:


antonb said:

Sorry about my post In the Truth discogs, I really happy actually because i really like that album. Im getting too cynical in my old age. My apologies to the poster.



You're welcome! I never listened to The Truth in its entirety😱. I tried a few times like 15 years ago, but I was bored mid-course. Since I don't have Crystal Ball, I was very interested in a reissue on CD ( with Kamasutra, but it's unlikely it will happen. And they don't have the rights for Kamasutra anyway. Spending 45 bucks for the vinyl of The Truth is too far-stretched for me. I guess if I found it on a wreckastore, I would have bought it though. Too bad they printed only 13k copies worldwide. But that's what made it a success in the Record Store Day. For the next RCS, I think they will print more copies (my bet is on a NPGMC album such as Chocolate Invasion). Vinyls are selling more and more, so that's likely.


Fingers crossed for the Camille Album on RSD. But your probably rignt about the NPGMC.



THanks for what you do! I alway enjoy your post.



Thanks a lot! 😀

I don't think they will do Camille, since it wasn't released before, it must be on a juridical limbo.
Even a completed album such as Undertaker release seems unlikely, because : who owns it?

The best selling reissue of Sony Legacy was The Versace Experience, simply because it was never released before. It seems Sony was able to release it to compensate for the impossibility to release Gold Experience.

Instead of the ONA box set, which sold poorly, they should have released an NPGMC box set, since it was never available in stores before.
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Reply #16 posted 01/05/22 4:31pm

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Last Week of the year!
What an incredible one.

US Billboard Charts (08/01/2022)


The Billboard 200
TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
145 68 160 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) ‒ Prince ( 1 )

Top Album Sales
TW LW WOC Title Artist ( Peak )
31 15 191 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution


Top Current Album Sales

82 58 16 Welcome 2 America - Prince ( 2
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Reply #17 posted 01/05/22 7:53pm

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Belgium (Flanders)

Christmas'miracle.
After nearly 3 months of exiting the Top 200 album, Welcome 2 America reenters the charts dated 25/12/2021 at #142!

2-3-10-21-28-108-104-119-101-141-out 12 for 12 weeks- 142.

This allows W2A to be the 161th best selling album of 2022 in this part of the country.
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Reply #18 posted 01/05/22 8:19pm

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Purple Rain is the 7th best selling album in vinyl in the US with 208,000 copies sold, according to Hits Daily Double.


Last year, Purple Rain sold 98k in vinyls out of the 115k total, that is to say 85%.
Now it's 94%.
How poorly just sell the SDE, only released in CD.

Adele's 30 is #1 with only 319k copies.

It sold 41,717,000 vinyls in 2021 in the US, a 40% increase from 2020 (27, 519,000)!

In the UK, 5.3 millions of vinyls sold last year.
#1 was Voyage with 40k copies.
Purple Rain is NOT in the top 50 sad
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Reply #19 posted 01/07/22 4:19pm

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Here we are, week 52 !

"So it seems like this year, Purple Rain could sell like 200.000 copies, which seems unbelievable"


These words were written by me on the 1st post of the 1st 2021's sales topic ( link on the opening post) !
And yet, this April's 2021 prophecy eventually fulfilled itself.

This year was indeed unbelievable in term of sales.
5 albums could be certified Gold or Platinum by their sales only!


Week 52,
Best selling albums of 2021 in the US


Rank Estimated 2021 Sales TITLE Artist Estimated Total Sales
1 1,464,000 30 Adele 1,464,000
2 621,000 RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 621,000
3 557,000 SOUR Olivia Rodrigo 557,000
4 529,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 812,000
5 521,000 FEARLESS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) Taylor Swift 521,000

17 223,000 PURPLE RAIN Prince & the Revolution 4,268,000
81 96,000 WELCOME 2 AMERICA Prince 96,000

??? 20,000 THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE Prince 2,957,000
??? 13,000 The Truh

More info later on Prince'achiements this year.
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Reply #20 posted 01/09/22 6:40am

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Some achievements by Prince in the US in 2021.

Prince sold a total of 250k albums in 2019 and 320k in 2020.
This year, with only 2 albums, Purple Rain and Welcome 2 America, Prince achieves 319k sales!

Purple Rain charts facts :
- From the 223k copies sold, 208k were actually in the vinyl format. Meaning the SDE is really selling like shit.
- It sold 108k more copies than in 2020, an increase of 94% !
- It beats his most famous'rival, MJ's Thriller (187k)
- The #6 best selling catalogue album of the year
- With only 376k SPS sales ( pure sales + equivalent streaming sales), Purple Rain streaming numbers are awful.
To compare with, Thriller has 519k SPS!

Welcome 3/2 America charts fact :
- With 50k copies sold the 1st week, it almost doubled its sales in 5 months.
- The #27 best week of the year in term of sales with 50k copies sold
- The #26 best selling album released in 2021.
- It beats a number of huge and highly promoted releases, which had radio hits, huge streaming, music videos, etc. Everything W2A hadn't!

- The Weekend's Highlights (94k)
- Coldplay's Music of the Sphere (76k)
- Drake's Certified Lover Boy (68k)
- Kanye West's Donda (53k)
- Last but not least, it sold three times more than Elton John's Lockdown, which had two #1 hits Worldwide!
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Reply #21 posted 01/09/22 7:35am

FrankieCoco1

Given the more than decent sales of W2A, do you reckon Sony might be more prepared to work with the estate on similar stand alone releases, rather than potentially messy collaborations with Warners on non-soundtrack Super Deluxes?
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Reply #22 posted 01/09/22 7:26pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

Given the more than decent sales of W2A, do you reckon Sony might be more prepared to work with the estate on similar stand alone releases, rather than potentially messy collaborations with Warners on non-soundtrack Super Deluxes?


I don't think there's much unreleased albums left in the vault.
Not as current, and not with a same strong story.

The best opportunity I can see, is to release the last Piano and Mic shows. If they can find the best date on the tour + the very last show recorded professionally in audio and video, it could be a hit.
But does it really exist?

The last show was at least recorded professionally :
https://princevault.com/i...Microphone

But was it filmed?
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Reply #23 posted 01/19/22 9:17am

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I couldn't close this year 2021 5-parts thread without giving my estimations of what Prince sold in the US in 2021.

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For a reminder :

2019 : 250K

2020 : 320k (including 115k of Purple Rain)

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Here is the countdown :

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WB catalogue :

PURPLE RAIN: 223k

THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE : 20k

SOTT and 1999 : 10k each

The greatest hits : an average of 5k each ( The Hits 1, 2, 3, Ultimate, 4EVER, Originals)

Big albums : an average of 5k each (Prince, ATWIAD, Parade)

Dirty Mind,Controversy : 3k each

For You, Lovesexy, Graffiti Bridge, D&P, Lovesymbol, Piano and Mic, AOA : 1K each

Total : 321k

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Thanks to Purple Rain, WB's catalogue already explodes Prince's total last year' sales.

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Sony Legacy catalogue :

WELCOME 2 AMERICA : 96k

The Truth : 13k

Versace Experience : 1k

3121, Musicology, Planet Earth, Rave box set, RaveIn2, RaveUn2, Emancipation, Chaos and Disorder, ONA boxset, ONA piano, ONA live, It ain't over yet : 500 copies each.

Total : 116k

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Conclusion : With WB + Sony Prince sold 437k in the US in 2021.

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Reply #24 posted 01/19/22 4:48pm

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Purple Rain moves from 185 back up to 171 on this week's Billboard 200 (for the week ending January 22) in its 162nd week on the chart. Surprisingly, it is not his longest-charted album; 1999 has a total of 163 weeks on the BB200. So if PR charts just two more weeks (which it undoubtedly will, even if it falls off for a bit before then) it will finally become his longest-charting album.



In another minor milestone this week, he logs a 100th total week on the Artist 100 chart. This chart was created in 2014, and Prince reached number one there in 2016 after his passing.

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Reply #25 posted 01/19/22 11:05pm

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What can be expected for 2022 in term of sales ?


Purple Rain sold exceptionnally well last year.

In fact,in the last 6 years Purple Rain sold an impressive 1,2 millions copies in pure sales ! That album begins to be an oversaturated market.

2016 : 496k

2017 : 171k

2018 : 98k

2019 : 92k

2020 : 115k

2021 : 223k

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2021 was an exceptionnal year : for the first time in 17 years, the physical market is not shrinking, but in full increase ! But that was mostly thanks to the vinyl craze.

Logically, what was expected was to have the vinyl prices decrease progressively because of a larger amount produced. Then, the lower prices would have allowed to an even bigger increase in sales.

Sadly, that’s the exact opposite happening : since the lack of raw materials, investment in plants and covid, vinyls price has been increased dramatically.

Logically, I think 2022 will be the first year of decrease in sales for this format since like 15 years.

Purple Rain will be of course impacted, and I expect his sales to be "only" around 175k this year.

For the first two weeks of the year in the US Billboard top album sales, the album still hold up well.

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Top Album Sales

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Week of January 15, 2022

31 31 192 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution

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Week of January 22, 2022

21 31 193 Purple Rain (Soundtrack) - Prince And The Revolution ( 2 )

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Welcome 2 AMERICA is out of the top current album charts (total 16 non consecutives weeks).

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