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BartVanHemelen

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"Boyarski and Fritz talk bringing the Prince catalog into the 21st century"

https://www.billboard.com...235000343/

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To mark the firm’s first decade, Boyarski and Fritz talk bringing the Prince catalog into the 21st century and generating $125 million during the catalog sales boom, as well as the viability of non-fungible tokens (NFTs) as a revenue stream.

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Reply #1 posted 11/26/21 4:51am

Vannormal

(sorry, double post)

[Edited 11/26/21 4:51am]

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Reply #2 posted 11/26/21 4:51am

Vannormal

So, Boyarski serving as lead entertainment counsel for the Estate since 2016...

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I first had to search for the meaning of NFT's.

And I somewhat understand what it means now, but,

I still don't know if it would be a good thing for future Prince releases.

And the estimation of $125 milion, isn't that a bit exagerated ?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #3 posted 11/26/21 5:27am

BartVanHemelen

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Vannormal said:

I first had to search for the meaning of NFT's.

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Seriously, do you lot never read anything in the news? I mean, here is an article from 2019: https://medium.com/@Andre...62ca57ae10

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And the estimation of $125 milion, isn't that a bit exagerated ?

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That was not about Prince.

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Reply #4 posted 11/26/21 6:00am

JorisE73

NFT's could be interesting. Other artists try that now to. Quentin Tarantine also some weeks ago sold deleted scnes from Pulp Fiction and various drafts of his screenplays. Pretty lucrative even tho Miramax sueed him for it.

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Reply #5 posted 11/26/21 9:30am

nayroo2002

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BartVanHemelen said:

https://www.billboard.com...235000343/

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To mark the firm’s first decade, Boyarski and Fritz talk bringing the Prince catalog into the 21st century and generating $125 million during the catalog sales boom, as well as the viability of non-fungible tokens (NFTs) as a revenue stream.

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So, as far as can understand, (read):

What kind of work have you done for the Prince estate?

Boyarski: All of the entertainment transactions, including the full catalog music publishing agreement with Universal Music Publishing Group and the 35-album deal on the master side that went to Sony. We also did the performance rights agreement with Irving Azoff and Randy Grimmett at Global Music Rights because, prior to his death, Prince had resigned from ASCAP as a writer. Over the years, I’ve also partnered with Troy Carter, the estate’s entertainment adviser, to cut a number of other deals, including bringing his music to TikTok and Peloton, and doing name, image and licensing deals with them. We created a channel with SiriusXM, and there are also a bunch of yet-to-be-announced projects.

Prince was fiercely protective of his legacy as an artist. Is it ever daunting to handle rights deals for someone known for maintaining such tight control over his works?

Boyarski: It’s a blessing to be involved with such an iconic artist’s work, but it’s also a huge weight on our shoulders because every decision that we make tells a new story about how his music is going to be heard and how Prince is going to be seen by a new generation. So there is a lot of time and energy spent determining how his music is going to be put into the market.

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Reply #6 posted 11/26/21 9:47am

antonb

Been a disappointing year for Prince fans in my view. Just one release, of any note. (And I really liked W2A!)

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Reply #7 posted 11/26/21 11:53am

trickyjoe7777

BartVanHemelen said:

Vannormal said:

I first had to search for the meaning of NFT's.

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Seriously, do you lot never read anything in the news? I mean, here is an article from 2019: https://medium.com/@Andre...62ca57ae10

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And the estimation of $125 milion, isn't that a bit exagerated ?

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That was not about Prince.

Seriously do you have to be such a ****ing C**t everytime someone doesn't meet your high standards of knowing everything? pr**k, it's long since overdue you were kicked from here you are simply toxic and 99% of members here I guarantee will agree with me

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Reply #8 posted 11/26/21 1:25pm

TrivialPursuit

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antonb said:

Been a disappointing year for Prince fans in my view. Just one release, of any note. (And I really liked W2A!)


Well, your view isn't everyone's view. I don't know what Prince fans expect, exactly. A release a month? A 10-disk set every 30 days or something?

Prince fans are spoiled because of the bootleg market, and the sheer volume and speed at which things were leaked out. I've also come to realize that most Prince fans known zilch about marketing and promotional campaigns. Market saturation is a thing, and to space things out, to let certain things sit for a while - during which times things have to be physically worked on, designed, edited, and manufactured - until the next release is scheduled.

THere's also a global pandemic that seems to have retarded businesses from doing business for a while. So frankly, we're lucky we got Sign O The Times when we did because it was likely all put together and ready for shipping well before Covid hit. And once it did hit, well - we got W2A.

No one, not even the self-proclaimed expert in the thread (we know who he is) knows what goes on. None of us do. Be glad you're getting something, and 90% of the time, it's well worth your money. Look at the Michael Jackson estate. They've released what... two or three new CDs, one of which wasn't even MJ's vocals??? I'm sick that I even bought that fucking thing. No outtakes, no videos. There was an animated Halloween special two years ago, some slapped together videos, a few 4K upgrades on YouTube (whooptie doo), and... well, nothing much else.

Bowie's estate seems to have done more but Bowie's affairs were well in order before he passed. Prince's was a disaster zone. So for them to release what they have in the past 5, almost 6, years, I'd say they haven't done so bad.

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Reply #9 posted 11/26/21 2:47pm

rap

trickyjoe7777 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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That was not about Prince.

Seriously do you have to be such a ****ing C**t everytime someone doesn't meet your high standards of knowing everything? pr**k, it's long since overdue you were kicked from here you are simply toxic and 99% of members here I guarantee will agree with me

Nice thought, but it'll never happen.

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Reply #10 posted 11/26/21 8:45pm

mbdtyler

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[Edited 11/26/21 20:46pm]

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Reply #11 posted 11/26/21 8:46pm

mbdtyler

BartVanHemelen said:

Vannormal said:

I first had to search for the meaning of NFT's.

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Seriously, do you lot never read anything in the news? I mean, here is an article from 2019: https://medium.com/@Andre...62ca57ae10

Quit being such a dick.

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Reply #12 posted 11/26/21 8:50pm

mbdtyler

TrivialPursuit said:

antonb said:

Been a disappointing year for Prince fans in my view. Just one release, of any note. (And I really liked W2A!)


Well, your view isn't everyone's view. I don't know what Prince fans expect, exactly. A release a month? A 10-disk set every 30 days or something?

I think there's a wide gulf of options between "one single-disc release in an entire calendar year" and "a ten disc set every month". c'mon...

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Reply #13 posted 11/26/21 11:22pm

antonb

Yes it doesnt have to be a 10 disc set! And it doesnt have to be a highly expensive package either. Maybe an aftershow release? if not in physical form maybe a digital download? There are many ways to skin a cat! Oh sorry i forgot about The Truth on vinyl, we had that too

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Reply #14 posted 11/27/21 7:08am

Phase3

In 2019 we got Versace experience, originals volume 1,1999 deluxe,and rave.
We also got his Majesty's pop life
That was before covid
I think the virus is going away.Idk because I tend to avoid the news now days

Maybe we will get a few releases next year
PATIENCE
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Reply #15 posted 11/29/21 3:56am

Vannormal

BartVanHemelen said:

Vannormal said:

I first had to search for the meaning of NFT's.

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Seriously, do you lot never read anything in the news? I mean, here is an article from 2019: https://medium.com/@Andre...62ca57ae10

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And the estimation of $125 milion, isn't that a bit exagerated ?

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That was not about Prince.

"you lot''...

I read more news than you might think, Bart-boy.

Then again, ask me anything about contemporary art since 1900, architecture or design,
and in return I can shit on you with lots of facts and details, that'll suffocate you.

And fyi, as for now, I have zilch interst in Medium.com, nor Andrew Steinwold with his 549 followers.

Cause I'm always extremely happy that negative people like you will keep us informed.

And most important, my true love and appreciation for you is real, don't ever question that.

Big fat kiss back!

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #16 posted 11/29/21 4:08am

Vannormal

trickyjoe7777 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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That was not about Prince.

Seriously do you have to be such a ****ing C**t everytime someone doesn't meet your high standards of knowing everything ? pr**k, it's long since overdue you were kicked from here you are simply toxic and 99% of members here I guarantee will agree with me

Drop the mono nerdy 'high'.

Everyone's standards here are equaly humanly received, by those who are willig to be friendly.

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Concerning the Estate and releases :

I'm convinced they could do (more) parallel releases.

Official package releases for the masses, and more online detailed parallel releases for the true fans or interested only. Alternate versions, more deep info, and on a more regular basis, etc...

Additions and insight that do not really interest others.

Why the hell not.

It would be an original approach, something I haven't seen done yet.

If so, tell me what or who did it.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #17 posted 11/29/21 12:00pm

Se7en

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Also - as far as 2021 goes, we did also get The Truth LP for record store day in addition to the full W2A release. The Do Me, Baby demo was a nice surprise too.

NFTs could be an interesting source of income for the Estate. In the Prince world -- who owns his digital image? Would WB own any WB-era imagery?

As someone already posted, Quentin Tarantino is sort of being sued by his own studio, even though he has rights to the imagery. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.



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Reply #18 posted 11/30/21 11:24am

embmmusic

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NFTs are a scam and environmentally damaging, let's not go down that road.

Check out The Collector's Guide to Prince on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/p...4ldzxwlEuy
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Reply #19 posted 11/30/21 12:21pm

TrivialPursuit

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embmmusic said:

NFTs are a scam and environmentally damaging, let's not go down that road.


Everything is environmentally damaging. I don't know how an NFT is going to open up the ozone layer anymore.

But I do agree NFTs are a scam. People own what? Something that literally anyone can copy and redistribute, like anything else since the damn internet became popular? And they don't even outright own it. It's so fucking bizarre.

You know when someone asks what an NFT is, and the answer starts with a huge sigh, then, "Okay, so here's what happens..." it's going to be a pile of shit.

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