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George Harrison’s Son Said Prince Created Tension During George’s Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction

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Reply #1 posted 11/11/21 2:45pm

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That's a long link!

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Reply #2 posted 11/11/21 3:23pm

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Jesus and a biscuit, is little Danni going at it again??? He's starting to remind me of Sheila E., by how much he's milking Prince's death with bullshit post-mortem stories.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #3 posted 11/11/21 4:02pm

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He was a humbling reminder of how mediocre those lots were on stage especially playing next to him, I bet he created tension, as he should’ve.
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Reply #4 posted 11/11/21 4:32pm

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rolleyes

That solo is so overrated it's embarrasing as a Prince fan

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Reply #5 posted 11/11/21 5:00pm

runningbear

homesquid said:

rolleyes

That solo is so overrated it's embarrasing as a Prince fan

That was my take as well as I rewatched, public should be embracing Just My Imagination, that solo provides chills. Still, Tremendous song, very nice guitar work by Prince, if anything I wish he toned down the showmanship

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Reply #6 posted 11/12/21 12:09am

Vannormal

runningbear said:

homesquid said:

rolleyes

That solo is so overrated it's embarrasing as a Prince fan

That was my take as well as I rewatched, public should be embracing Just My Imagination, that solo provides chills. Still, Tremendous song, very nice guitar work by Prince, if anything I wish he toned down the showmanship

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Whenever I watch it, I forget everything about George Harisson, and that's not good.

Prince absorbes me in this thrilling solo.

It wasn't an homage though, just plain stolen showmanship indeed.

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Still, in Petty's words :

“Olivia Harrison [George’s widow] asked me if I would come along and induct George.

I was told, Well, Prince is going to play too, and I was like, Wow, that’s fantastic.

Look, we got Prince here willing to play lead guitar. Why should we give him an eight-bar solo?

Over a solo that (the Beatles solo), everyone knows it by heart and would be disappointed if you didn’t play that particular solo there. And Prince was a great fan of George’s, and the Beatles in general, but I think he particularly admired George. I think George would have liked it a lot.

At the end of his solo, Prince threw his guitar out into the crowd. To this day, many of the people who were on that stage don't know where it landed. That’s the mystery of Prince, and George would have gotten a kick out of it."

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[Edited 11/12/21 0:19am]

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Reply #7 posted 11/12/21 2:27am

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Reply #8 posted 11/12/21 6:18am

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I was ready to go off on one BUT it's actually a lovely article & very complimentary.

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Reply #9 posted 11/12/21 6:39am

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Vannormal said:

runningbear said:

That was my take as well as I rewatched, public should be embracing Just My Imagination, that solo provides chills. Still, Tremendous song, very nice guitar work by Prince, if anything I wish he toned down the showmanship

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Whenever I watch it, I forget everything about George Harisson, and that's not good.

Prince absorbes me in this thrilling solo.

It wasn't an homage though, just plain stolen showmanship indeed.

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Still, in Petty's words :

“Olivia Harrison [George’s widow] asked me if I would come along and induct George.

I was told, Well, Prince is going to play too, and I was like, Wow, that’s fantastic.

Look, we got Prince here willing to play lead guitar. Why should we give him an eight-bar solo?

Over a solo that (the Beatles solo), everyone knows it by heart and would be disappointed if you didn’t play that particular solo there. And Prince was a great fan of George’s, and the Beatles in general, but I think he particularly admired George. I think George would have liked it a lot.

At the end of his solo, Prince threw his guitar out into the crowd. To this day, many of the people who were on that stage don't know where it landed. That’s the mystery of Prince, and George would have gotten a kick out of it."

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I believe Petty was sincere in his respect for Prince and confidence that Prince would pull something off. But I think Petty was embellishing a bit and trying to justify Prince's involvedment when he claimed: "Prince was a great fan of George’s, and the Beatles in general, but I think he particularly admired George." I don't know where he got that idea, unless Prince said if offhandedly to the group to ease their anixety about his inclusion. I know there's been lots of debate here about whether Wendy & Lisa introduced the Beatles to Prince or how much, if any, influence they had on ATWID, but regardless, it's a stretch to suggest Prince was a major George Harrison fan. If he had been, he certainly would have mention it more often.

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Reply #10 posted 11/12/21 6:47am

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lurker316 said:



Vannormal said:




runningbear said:



That was my take as well as I rewatched, public should be embracing Just My Imagination, that solo provides chills. Still, Tremendous song, very nice guitar work by Prince, if anything I wish he toned down the showmanship



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Whenever I watch it, I forget everything about George Harisson, and that's not good.


Prince absorbes me in this thrilling solo.


It wasn't an homage though, just plain stolen showmanship indeed.


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Still, in Petty's words :




“Olivia Harrison [George’s widow] asked me if I would come along and induct George.


I was told, Well, Prince is going to play too, and I was like, Wow, that’s fantastic.




Look, we got Prince here willing to play lead guitar. Why should we give him an eight-bar solo?


Over a solo that (the Beatles solo), everyone knows it by heart and would be disappointed if you didn’t play that particular solo there. And Prince was a great fan of George’s, and the Beatles in general, but I think he particularly admired George. I think George would have liked it a lot.




At the end of his solo, Prince threw his guitar out into the crowd. To this day, many of the people who were on that stage don't know where it landed. That’s the mystery of Prince, and George would have gotten a kick out of it."






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I believe Petty was sincere in his respect for Prince and confidence that Prince would pull something off. But I think Petty was embellishing a bit and trying to justify Prince's involvedment when he claimed: "Prince was a great fan of George’s, and the Beatles in general, but I think he particularly admired George." I don't know where he got that idea, unless Prince said if offhandedly to the group to ease their anixety about his inclusion. I know there's been lots of debate here about whether Wendy & Lisa introduced the Beatles to Prince or how much, if any, influence they had on ATWID, but regardless, it's a stretch to suggest Prince was a major George Harrison fan. If he had been, he certainly would have mention it more often.



Prince was always more publically vocal about his admiration for Paul.
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Reply #11 posted 11/12/21 7:15am

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That's a long link!


Because the OP left in all the TRACKING.

Please, people, look at the link. Do you see the "/?" after the html?
Cut that off and everything behind it.

This is still long but at least it's not tracking you and anyone else who shares it from here.
https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/george-harrisons-son-said-prince-created-tension-georges-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-induction.html

ALWAYS do that, anywhere, when sharing a link. In this case, it allowed Facebook to track you. You can see the "fb" in the part you should cut off.
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Reply #12 posted 11/12/21 7:19am

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Jesus and a biscuit, is little Danni going at it again??? He's starting to remind me of Sheila E., by how much he's milking Prince's death with bullshit post-mortem stories.

What is he "milking" it for? You think he needs money? What does he have to lie about?

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Reply #13 posted 11/12/21 7:33am

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Dhani said Prince created tension because no one knew for sure what - if anything - he was going to do. He didn't say Prince was bad or evil, he said they weren't sure if he was even going to take the stage. How is this a shock? Prince did the same thing on American Idol. They didn't now if he was going to show up (though in that case it was reported as bad traffic making him arrive at the last minute), and they didn't know what he was going to do. He breezed in at the very last minute and handed them a DAT tape with the track at the very literal last minute. That would cause a lot of stress at tension, especially on a live TV show. Dhani only said that Prince was shy and didn't do much at rehearsal and he felt Prince was probably going to blow everyone away at the actual performance. TrivialPursuit, how the hell is that "milking" anything? How on Earth is that Dhani trying to make himself look good and Prince look bad? You want to talk about Jesus and a can of beans? Take a look in the mirror. Dhani Harrison is easily worth more (becasue of his dad), than all of Prince's associates combined. When has Dhani ever acted like a media whore? Why would he need our attention? He was involved in his dad's RnR HOF induction and Prince performed a good and memorable (if fairly overrated), guitar solo. Why on Earth wouild Dhani not talk about it? This wasn't some press release/event Dhani organized, he was being asked about this stuff. Critical thinking skills are in very short supply these days. Dhani is not Sheila. He doesn't need anything from Prince's estate or Prince's fans. Why on Earth would he need to lie about something that is so obviously true?

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Reply #14 posted 11/12/21 7:39am

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Dhani said Prince created tension because no one knew for sure what - if anything - he was going to do. He didn't say Prince was bad or evil, he said they weren't sure if he was even going to take the stage. How is this a shock? Prince did the same thing on American Idol. They didn't now if he was going to show up (though in that case it was reported as bad traffic making him arrive at the last minute), and they didn't know what he was going to do. He breezed in at the very last minute and handed them a DAT tape with the track at the very literal last minute. That would cause a lot of stress at tension, especially on a live TV show. Dhani only said that Prince was shy and didn't do much at rehearsal and he felt Prince was probably going to blow everyone away at the actual performance. TrivialPursuit, how the hell is that "milking" anything? How on Earth is that Dhani trying to make himself look good and Prince look bad? You want to talk about Jesus and a can of beans? Take a look in the mirror. Dhani Harrison is easily worth more (becasue of his dad), than all of Prince's associates combined. When has Dhani ever acted like a media whore? Why would he need our attention? He was involved in his dad's RnR HOF induction and Prince performed a good and memorable (if fairly overrated), guitar solo. Why on Earth wouild Dhani not talk about it? This wasn't some press release/event Dhani organized, he was being asked about this stuff. Critical thinking skills are in very short supply these days. Dhani is not Sheila. He doesn't need anything from Prince's estate or Prince's fans. Why on Earth would he need to lie about something that is so obviously true?



I agree. If you read the article, he's not actually saying anything bad about Prince. The phrase "he created tension" sounds critical, but whn you read it in the context of what he's saying, it's not so bad. He simply saying people didn't know what to expect of Prince -- he's not saying people were upset that Prince was there (other than perhaps his own mother).


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lurker316 said:



steakfinger said:


Dhani said Prince created tension because no one knew for sure what - if anything - he was going to do. He didn't say Prince was bad or evil, he said they weren't sure if he was even going to take the stage. How is this a shock? Prince did the same thing on American Idol. They didn't now if he was going to show up (though in that case it was reported as bad traffic making him arrive at the last minute), and they didn't know what he was going to do. He breezed in at the very last minute and handed them a DAT tape with the track at the very literal last minute. That would cause a lot of stress at tension, especially on a live TV show. Dhani only said that Prince was shy and didn't do much at rehearsal and he felt Prince was probably going to blow everyone away at the actual performance. TrivialPursuit, how the hell is that "milking" anything? How on Earth is that Dhani trying to make himself look good and Prince look bad? You want to talk about Jesus and a can of beans? Take a look in the mirror. Dhani Harrison is easily worth more (becasue of his dad), than all of Prince's associates combined. When has Dhani ever acted like a media whore? Why would he need our attention? He was involved in his dad's RnR HOF induction and Prince performed a good and memorable (if fairly overrated), guitar solo. Why on Earth wouild Dhani not talk about it? This wasn't some press release/event Dhani organized, he was being asked about this stuff. Critical thinking skills are in very short supply these days. Dhani is not Sheila. He doesn't need anything from Prince's estate or Prince's fans. Why on Earth would he need to lie about something that is so obviously true?





I agree. If you read the article, he's not actually saying anything bad about Prince. The phrase "he created tension" sounds critical, but whn you read it in the context of what he's saying, it's not so bad. He simply saying people didn't know what to expect of Prince -- he's not saying people were upset that Prince was there (other than perhaps his own mother).




This is yet another case of people reacting to a provocative headline without reading the full article for context. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen this happening on social media and other sites.
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Reply #16 posted 11/12/21 8:22am

jdcxc

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He was a humbling reminder of how mediocre those lots were on stage especially playing next to him, I bet he created tension, as he should’ve.
[Edited 11/11/21 16:03pm]

Well Put. Prince wudda also blown his daddy off the stage.
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Reply #17 posted 11/12/21 9:17am

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there are not many guitarists who take their instrument seriously who have not admired harrison .. his spiritual bent influenced not only the beatles but many others as well even if his idealogy was not fully embraced .. its like thinking a bass player never heard of john paul jones .. george has been and will be studied for a long time .. no doubt prince took note

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Reply #18 posted 11/12/21 9:28am

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runningbear said:

homesquid said:

rolleyes

That solo is so overrated it's embarrasing as a Prince fan

That was my take as well as I rewatched, public should be embracing Just My Imagination, that solo provides chills. Still, Tremendous song, very nice guitar work by Prince, if anything I wish he toned down the showmanship

too bad it comes in hot in that raw soundboard and sounds awkward (as did other elements of the club aftershow... looking at you Housequake with background vocals turned up louder than the beat.)

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Reply #19 posted 11/12/21 11:48am

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Nowhere in this article does it demonstrate to me that Prince created tension. Dhani says he was nice but shy (the usual) and that he held back during rehearsals but went full-on during the show. We all knew that already.

This article title is misleading.

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The term tension is misleading and not necessary. Its like before a show and you havent rehearsed something and then you are told such and such is playing, so you just know its going to be great you just hope you can keep up and get it right. For me I always look at this like, George was always the Beatle that never got the praise he deserved too, I'm not saying he was Lennon and McCartney, but towards the latter half of their career, George wrote and performed some of their best songs. And I think whether you LIKE the BEATLES or not, you cannot ever deny the impact and the influence on other artists. And just think of all the Beatles being inducted, whos entry gets talked about most? Prince's name is forever always in the same mention as George Harrisons when talking about great moments in music history, unexpected moments. Also it is a solo that needed to be highlighted, who knows it may have been something Prince loved as a child and early in his playing days, and who else was going to play the solo? Jeff Lynne, Tom Petty? I think if it was anyone BUT Prince it would nave been a very pedestrian show overall, to be honest I dont really even remember Prince's performance I thought his could have been MUCH better but who knows.


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Reply #21 posted 11/13/21 9:01am

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runningbear said:



homesquid said:


rolleyes


That solo is so overrated it's embarrasing as a Prince fan



That was my take as well as I rewatched, public should be embracing Just My Imagination, that solo provides chills. Still, Tremendous song, very nice guitar work by Prince, if anything I wish he toned down the showmanship



lol lol

Yeeaahhhh…riiiiggghhhttt. Technically it’s a fantastic solo showcasing Prince’s rhythmic awareness mostly, masterful pedal use but also how musically grounded and totally winged that solo was- that’s what makes it so great.

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Reply #22 posted 11/13/21 10:36am

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Yeah I don't like when people criticize the showmanship. He's performing for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame after being inducted. And it's the star-studded finale. If there's ever a time for showmanship, for taking a musical victory lap, it's then.
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Reply #23 posted 11/13/21 11:00am

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Yeah I don't like when people criticize the showmanship. He's performing for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame after being inducted. And it's the star-studded finale. If there's ever a time for showmanship, for taking a musical victory lap, it's then.

That criticism highlights a boring bias. Do they not know who Prince was or James Brown or Jimi Hendrix.

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Reply #24 posted 11/14/21 6:52am

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lurker316 said:

Vannormal said:

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Whenever I watch it, I forget everything about George Harisson, and that's not good.

Prince absorbes me in this thrilling solo.

It wasn't an homage though, just plain stolen showmanship indeed.

-

Still, in Petty's words :

“Olivia Harrison [George’s widow] asked me if I would come along and induct George.

I was told, Well, Prince is going to play too, and I was like, Wow, that’s fantastic.

Look, we got Prince here willing to play lead guitar. Why should we give him an eight-bar solo?

Over a solo that (the Beatles solo), everyone knows it by heart and would be disappointed if you didn’t play that particular solo there. And Prince was a great fan of George’s, and the Beatles in general, but I think he particularly admired George. I think George would have liked it a lot.

At the end of his solo, Prince threw his guitar out into the crowd. To this day, many of the people who were on that stage don't know where it landed. That’s the mystery of Prince, and George would have gotten a kick out of it."

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I believe Petty was sincere in his respect for Prince and confidence that Prince would pull something off. But I think Petty was embellishing a bit and trying to justify Prince's involvedment when he claimed: "Prince was a great fan of George’s, and the Beatles in general, but I think he particularly admired George." I don't know where he got that idea, unless Prince said if offhandedly to the group to ease their anixety about his inclusion. I know there's been lots of debate here about whether Wendy & Lisa introduced the Beatles to Prince or how much, if any, influence they had on ATWID, but regardless, it's a stretch to suggest Prince was a major George Harrison fan. If he had been, he certainly would have mention it more often.

You´re correct about Prince not mentioning the Beatles very often during his career , and many fans believe the story that it was Wendy and Lisa who introduced Prince to the Beatles´ music but there´s a part in Morris Day´s biography where he says that they would listen to the Beatles quite often during their teenage years, so I doubt the part about Wendy and Lisa.

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Reply #25 posted 11/14/21 8:55am

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PJMcGee said:

Yeah I don't like when people criticize the showmanship. He's performing for the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame after being inducted. And it's the star-studded finale. If there's ever a time for showmanship, for taking a musical victory lap, it's then.


Same. You come in doing Clapton's solo you better bring it. Also LOL @ the idea of Prince overdoing it showmanship. He IS showmanship

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Reply #26 posted 11/14/21 7:13pm

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Wasn't creating tension kinda Prince's thing?


It's what he did. They wrote an entire movie about it that made him a huge star.

Half the folklore is what Prince may or may not do, and his eratic behavior. Inviting Prince to join a group of people for a tribute instantly creates tension.

And for me, it's the what the others are doing behind Prince that hammers home the beauty of the song, and it's when Prince solos that I find myself really appreciating the genius of the song itself.

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Reply #27 posted 11/14/21 9:12pm

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George Harrison did wrote and steal some nice songs but he always was a crappy guitar player.Best guitar parts on the Beatles records were played by Paul Mccartney.so i wouldn't be surprised if Prince never had any interest in George
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Reply #28 posted 11/15/21 12:59am

Vannormal

lurker316 said:

steakfinger said:

Dhani said (...)

I agree. If you read the article, he's not actually saying anything bad about Prince. The phrase "he created tension" sounds critical, but whn you read it in the context of what he's saying, it's not so bad. He simply saying people didn't know what to expect of Prince -- he's not saying people were upset that Prince was there (other than perhaps his own mother).

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Reread the article again and I have to agree.

Always better to check the personaly interpretation of any article.

It often says something about the one interpreting, rather than about the subject, obviously.

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
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Reply #29 posted 11/16/21 8:56am

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Prince has such a ridiculously pretentious fanbase, and I absolutely love it.
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