MickyDolenz said:

True but it's a different world for X and Z geners, even millennials note the difference. There was more, cross pollination, when it came to how music was heard especially across generational lines. Like the console you posted earlier, my dad had something similar. I heard jazz all through the house all the time, I could physically go through his record collection when he wasn't home. I was accustom to being exposed to more than my peer groups sounds, all the tim not just on special occasions. Same difference with my kids who are millennials, I played my music in the car, around the house, on the computer. I heard their music, through the house or through negotiating control over what played in the car. Now everybody has their own earbuds and devices, to listen to what they want when they want, even if everyone is in he same vehicle. There's no music shows really on tv 24/7. So unless one is giving regular house parties how would one hear music outside their peer group on a regular basis? Regularly surfing social media. That has changed.

onlyforaminute said:

MickyDolenz said:

That's the way it's always been, long before there was an internet or streaming. People in general only (or mostly) listen to one thing. That's why there were different radio formats like Top 40 pop, AOR, R&B, country, dance, easy listening, & adult contemporary. When music videos became popular in the 1980s, if you didn't want to watch MTV, there was Video Jukebox, Video Soul on BET, VH-1, etc. I have relatives that only listened to gospel. Secular music was not allowed to be played in their house. They would call it "devil's music" or "blues", no matter what it actually was. People also are more likely to listen to music made by artists of their own race/ethnicity, like it's primarily Mexicans who listen to Tejano, ranchera, & mariachi. Vicente Fernández is popular with that audience. There's also other things that go with the music. Country listeners are more likely to be into rodeos than opera listeners.

True but it's a different world for X and Z geners, even millennials note the difference. There was more, cross pollination, when it came to how music was heard especially across generational lines. Like the console you posted earlier, my dad had something similar. I heard jazz all through the house all the time, I could physically go through his record collection when he wasn't home. I was accustom to being exposed to more than my peer groups sounds, all the tim not just on special occasions. Same difference with my kids who are millennials, I played my music in the car, around the house, on the computer. I heard their music, through the house or through negotiating control over what played in the car. Now everybody has their own earbuds and devices, to listen to what they want when they want, even if everyone is in he same vehicle. There's no music shows really on tv 24/7. So unless one is giving regular house parties how would one hear music outside their peer group on a regular basis? Regularly surfing social media. That has changed.

Right, and although radio programming by genre is segregaded "bubble" listening, it's a completely different beast from an age where you literally only expose yourself to programming that required a double-click to initiate. Internet age user might only listen to one particular artist of a certain genre, whereas if you were of a radio age maybe you limited the genre, but the program playlists encompassed a larger breadth of artists within said genre, even crossover artists.

It's why it seemed pertinent that EmmaMcG's comment was coming from a European perspective, because Europeans seem to have a higher appraisal of either maligned, misunderstood, mostly-forgotten or niche American artforms (hence the earlier wrestling commentary despite MickyDolenz trying to make some bizarro classist argument that merely proved the point that contemporary American audiences have 0.0 interest in modern wrestling, whereas Europeans seem to be more reverential to the art in all eras).

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WhisperingDandelions said:

(hence the earlier wrestling commentary despite MickyDolenz trying to make some bizarro classist argument that merely proved the point that contemporary American audiences have 0.0 interest in modern wrestling, whereas Europeans seem to be more reverential to the art in all eras).

This is the 2019 tour for WWE, the last full year before covid hit. Since when are places like NYC, Los Angeles, or Houston a small town or rural audience?. Also appearing at Madison Square Garden & Staples Center and multiple dates in some cities don't sound like 0 interest from Americans to me. What about all of those Smackdown video games that come out just about every year? Are you saying they only sell to Europeans? Same for WWE Funko Pops.