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Thread started 10/03/21 2:52am

Dilan

Why does stuff not leak like it used to?

I remember back in 2015 there was that day all that stuff leaked at once. And then how in 2014 there was that day that Adonis leaked and a few others on separate days. Does anyone know why studio outtakes aren’t really leaking anymore like they used to? Wasn’t the last one neurotic baby lovers bedroom last year? I would like really love to hear a full kiss me quick and hard to get 81.
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Reply #1 posted 10/03/21 2:58am

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Dilan said:

I remember back in 2015 there was that day all that stuff leaked at once. And then how in 2014 there was that day that Adonis leaked and a few others on separate days. Does anyone know why studio outtakes aren’t really leaking anymore like they used to? Wasn’t the last one neurotic baby lovers bedroom last year? I would like really love to hear a full kiss me quick and hard to get 81.

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You might have read that 'stuff' from the vault was moved elsewhere, to a facility called iron mountain.

You might remember also that Prince died, which measn that no new music is being produced.

Add to this the super slow (!) pace that this archivist uses to go through all tapes; this means that it will last until the next century until he's done. Only then there will be a usable overview of what is there and the planning of releases can commence.

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Reply #2 posted 10/03/21 5:14am

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I think the OP means after Prince passed, there was a slew of unheard material leaked here and there, and why did this seem to abuptly stop.

Only those 'elite' collectors know I guess, Maybe the Estate gave them a warning, maybe that was all there was? Personally I'm kinda happy those leaks have stopped, gives us a chance to breathe and stop clammering after the next leak. Many will argue, but the Estate have filled that gap with a slow and steady release strategy. (I could easily take a new release every month, but I understand they have to monetise the situation).

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Reply #3 posted 10/03/21 5:40am

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udo said:

Dilan said:

I remember back in 2015 there was that day all that stuff leaked at once. And then how in 2014 there was that day that Adonis leaked and a few others on separate days. Does anyone know why studio outtakes aren’t really leaking anymore like they used to? Wasn’t the last one neurotic baby lovers bedroom last year? I would like really love to hear a full kiss me quick and hard to get 81.

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You might have read that 'stuff' from the vault was moved elsewhere, to a facility called iron mountain.

You might remember also that Prince died, which measn that no new music is being produced.

Add to this the super slow (!) pace that this archivist uses to go through all tapes; this means that it will last until the next century until he's done. Only then there will be a usable overview of what is there and the planning of releases can commence.

[Play nice snip - luv4u] im talking about music circulating in collectors circles. iron mountain is irrelevant when songs these tracks weren't being leaked by prince himself but by collectors.

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Reply #4 posted 10/03/21 6:41am

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Dilan said:

udo said:

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You might have read that 'stuff' from the vault was moved elsewhere, to a facility called iron mountain.

You might remember also that Prince died, which measn that no new music is being produced.

Add to this the super slow (!) pace that this archivist uses to go through all tapes; this means that it will last until the next century until he's done. Only then there will be a usable overview of what is there and the planning of releases can commence.

[Play nice snip - luv4u] im talking about music circulating in collectors circles. iron mountain is irrelevant when songs these tracks weren't being leaked by prince himself but by collectors.

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'collector' was not in the OP's message.

I started at the source.

Collectors are way down as someone has to get the stuff from the PP-circles to the collectors.

Where would you picture that someone now?

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W.r.t. existign stashes of uncirculating and unheard materials you'd have to ask these 'elite' people.

But at the pace that this archivist is progressing these elites have quiet a few years of reign left.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #5 posted 10/03/21 7:32am

Dilan

udo said:



Dilan said:




udo said:



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You might have read that 'stuff' from the vault was moved elsewhere, to a facility called iron mountain.


You might remember also that Prince died, which measn that no new music is being produced.


Add to this the super slow (!) pace that this archivist uses to go through all tapes; this means that it will last until the next century until he's done. Only then there will be a usable overview of what is there and the planning of releases can commence.





[Play nice snip - luv4u] im talking about music circulating in collectors circles. iron mountain is irrelevant when songs these tracks weren't being leaked by prince himself but by collectors.



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'collector' was not in the OP's message.


I started at the source.


Collectors are way down as someone has to get the stuff from the PP-circles to the collectors.


Where would you picture that someone now?


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W.r.t. existign stashes of uncirculating and unheard materials you'd have to ask these 'elite' people.


But at the pace that this archivist is progressing these elites have quiet a few years of reign left.



Mentioning “collector” in the op message isn’t necessary because the songs leaked that I am talking about we know came from collectors so you either wasn’t using your common sense or you just don’t know the history of where these tracks come from. Starting at the original source (the vault)is irrelevant to what I’m asking.
[Edited 10/3/21 7:34am]
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Reply #6 posted 10/03/21 9:47am

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Most of it's already leaked. Since he died, shit's been leaking like a motherfucker.

The live material on Youtube alone is staggering.

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Reply #7 posted 10/03/21 6:53pm

udo

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Dilan said:

udo said:

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'collector' was not in the OP's message.

I started at the source.

Collectors are way down as someone has to get the stuff from the PP-circles to the collectors.

Where would you picture that someone now?

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W.r.t. existign stashes of uncirculating and unheard materials you'd have to ask these 'elite' people.

But at the pace that this archivist is progressing these elites have quiet a few years of reign left.

Mentioning “collector” in the op message isn’t necessary because the songs leaked that I am talking about we know came from collectors

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They came from PP.

Not from collectors.

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Eventually, later, etc, the collectors got hold of them.

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Reply #8 posted 10/03/21 7:30pm

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These guys specialize in getting treasure from inside mountains.

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Reply #9 posted 10/03/21 8:25pm

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I think for a few reasons:

1. The vault material has been moves and thus not passed around
2. Since Price passed maybe collectors have held onto "rare" material longer and hoarding it for more profic later on (douche move IMO)
3. More material has surfaced, and thus less material to surface

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Reply #10 posted 10/04/21 4:52am

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Thanks Dilan for starting this thread. I wake up every day hoping we’ll see the pristine Extraloveable and Lust U Always.
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Reply #11 posted 10/04/21 5:21am

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Thanks Dilan for starting this thread. I wake up every day hoping we’ll see the pristine Extraloveable and Lust U Always.

Hope we get a pristine version of "Go" and 1987 "wouldn't you love to love me" some day
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Reply #12 posted 10/04/21 5:49am

Dilan

udo said:



Dilan said:


udo said:


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'collector' was not in the OP's message.


I started at the source.


Collectors are way down as someone has to get the stuff from the PP-circles to the collectors.


Where would you picture that someone now?


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W.r.t. existign stashes of uncirculating and unheard materials you'd have to ask these 'elite' people.


But at the pace that this archivist is progressing these elites have quiet a few years of reign left.




Mentioning “collector” in the op message isn’t necessary because the songs leaked that I am talking about we know came from collectors

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They came from PP.


Not from collectors.


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Eventually, later, etc, the collectors got hold of them.


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Yes… I know this. When did I say otherwise? The point of this thread is discussing why collectors aren’t leaking anymore.
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Reply #13 posted 10/04/21 5:56am

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Dilan said:

udo said:

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You might have read that 'stuff' from the vault was moved elsewhere, to a facility called iron mountain.

You might remember also that Prince died, which measn that no new music is being produced.

Add to this the super slow (!) pace that this archivist uses to go through all tapes; this means that it will last until the next century until he's done. Only then there will be a usable overview of what is there and the planning of releases can commence.

[Play nice snip - luv4u] im talking about music circulating in collectors circles. iron mountain is irrelevant when songs these tracks weren't being leaked by prince himself but by collectors.


Where do you think the collectors got the tracks? They got them from Paisley Park. Now that the tracks have been moved to Iron Mountain, their sources have dried up.



[Edited 10/4/21 9:59am]

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Reply #14 posted 10/04/21 8:57am

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It's all there is maybe.

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Reply #15 posted 10/04/21 9:54am

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lurker316 said:

Dilan said:

[Play nice snip - luv4u] im talking about music circulating in collectors circles. iron mountain is irrelevant when songs these tracks weren't being leaked by prince himself but by collectors.

Where do you think the collectors got the tracks? They got them from Paisley Park. Now that the tracks have been moved to Iron Mountain, their sources have dried up.





Not exactly. There are many pruple friends who still have cassettes and copies of songs passed around since the 80s who got it from a friend, of a friend, of a bandmember etc.

Somebody put Eye Records on blast actually with the last few leaks and it has been downhill since, especially when the Estate sent that Cease and Desist letter.

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Reply #16 posted 10/04/21 4:00pm

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Dilan said:

I remember back in 2015 there was that day all that stuff leaked at once. And then how in 2014 there was that day that Adonis leaked and a few others on separate days. Does anyone know why studio outtakes aren’t really leaking anymore like they used to? Wasn’t the last one neurotic baby lovers bedroom last year? I would like really love to hear a full kiss me quick and hard to get 81.

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If those two were to leak you would probably say you don’t like them anyway
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Reply #17 posted 10/04/21 8:32pm

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Reply #18 posted 10/05/21 5:37am

Dilan

lurker316 said:

Dilan said:

[Play nice snip - luv4u] im talking about music circulating in collectors circles. iron mountain is irrelevant when songs these tracks weren't being leaked by prince himself but by collectors.


Where do you think the collectors got the tracks? They got them from Paisley Park. Now that the tracks have been moved to Iron Mountain, their sources have dried up.



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Collectors originally got their tracks from band members who got it from the vault. When we heard our leaks from 2014/15 the collectors original source from band members were not band member who had gotten their recordings from prince recently they were mostly from the 80's, 90s. ? Its not like they were tracks that sourced from the vault recently. I dont believe iron mountain is relevant because our leaks are coming from old tightly guaraded 'wells'.

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Reply #19 posted 10/05/21 5:37am

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Dilan said:
I remember back in 2015 there was that day all that stuff leaked at once. And then how in 2014 there was that day that Adonis leaked and a few others on separate days. Does anyone know why studio outtakes aren’t really leaking anymore like they used to? Wasn’t the last one neurotic baby lovers bedroom last year? I would like really love to hear a full kiss me quick and hard to get 81.
- If those two were to leak you would probably say you don’t like them anyway

lol

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Reply #20 posted 10/05/21 6:56am

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lurker316 said:



Dilan said:




udo said:



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You might have read that 'stuff' from the vault was moved elsewhere, to a facility called iron mountain.


You might remember also that Prince died, which measn that no new music is being produced.


Add to this the super slow (!) pace that this archivist uses to go through all tapes; this means that it will last until the next century until he's done. Only then there will be a usable overview of what is there and the planning of releases can commence.





[Play nice snip - luv4u] im talking about music circulating in collectors circles. iron mountain is irrelevant when songs these tracks weren't being leaked by prince himself but by collectors.





Where do you think the collectors got the tracks? They got them from Paisley Park. Now that the tracks have been moved to Iron Mountain, their sources have dried up.




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What are you talking about? That's not even true.

Almost every studio outtake boot you've ever heard came from a person with tapes that were passed to them from band members who had the tapes made by an engineer when the material was current. Iron Mountain is irrelevant to why the leaks don't happen as often now.

The material that has yet to leak is often the shit that people acquired with stipulations attached like "don't fucking give this to anybody, ever." And they tend to keep their promises in that regard to respect their sources and stay in a favorable position within that community. Sometimes we get lucky when traders fuck each other over and leak stuff they shouldn't have.
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Reply #21 posted 10/05/21 8:58am

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LoveGalore said:

lurker316 said:



Dilan said:




udo said:



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You might have read that 'stuff' from the vault was moved elsewhere, to a facility called iron mountain.


You might remember also that Prince died, which measn that no new music is being produced.


Add to this the super slow (!) pace that this archivist uses to go through all tapes; this means that it will last until the next century until he's done. Only then there will be a usable overview of what is there and the planning of releases can commence.





[Play nice snip - luv4u] im talking about music circulating in collectors circles. iron mountain is irrelevant when songs these tracks weren't being leaked by prince himself but by collectors.





Where do you think the collectors got the tracks? They got them from Paisley Park. Now that the tracks have been moved to Iron Mountain, their sources have dried up.




[Edited 10/4/21 9:59am]



What are you talking about? That's not even true.

Almost every studio outtake boot you've ever heard came from a person with tapes that were passed to them from band members who had the tapes made by an engineer when the material was current. Iron Mountain is irrelevant to why the leaks don't happen as often now.

The material that has yet to leak is often the shit that people acquired with stipulations attached like "don't fucking give this to anybody, ever." And they tend to keep their promises in that regard to respect their sources and stay in a favorable position within that community. Sometimes we get lucky when traders fuck each other over and leak stuff they shouldn't have.


Looks like we need somebody to sow some discord lol
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