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Diamonds and Pearls - 30th Anniversary - SDE?



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Released October 1, 1991, it was recorded from late 1989 through May 1991.

It went though a couple of configurations.

A November 1990 version was:

  1. "The Flow"
  2. "Daddy Pop"
  3. "Diamonds and Pearls"
  4. "Cream"
  5. "Strollin'"
  6. "Willing and Able"
  7. "Violet the Organ Grinder"
  8. "Walk Don't Walk"
  9. "Horny Pony" - unreleased version
  10. "Money Don't Matter 2 Nite"
  11. "Something Funky (This House Comes)"
  12. "Schoolyard"
  13. "Live 4 Love"

The final verison was:

  1. Thunder (UK only single)
  2. Daddy Pop
  3. Diamonds and Pearls
  4. Cream
  5. Strollin'
  6. Willing and Able
  7. Gett Off
  8. Walk Don't Walk
  9. Jughead
  10. Money Don't Matter 2 Nite
  11. Push
  12. Insatiable
  13. Live 4 Love (Last Words from the Cockpit)

Singles are bolded. "Gett Off" was released on June 7, and "Cream" was released in September, both ahead of the album release.

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The album went to #1 in Australia and on the US Billboard R&B chart. It hit #2 in the UK and #3 on the Billboard 200 album chart. It was top ten in most every country it was released in.

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Reply #1 posted 09/30/21 2:07am

Marco81

Where does that November 1990 configuration come from? It's not listed on Princevault (well there is one, but it's different...)

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Reply #2 posted 09/30/21 2:14am

antonb

its not happening this year is it?

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Reply #3 posted 09/30/21 5:05am

LoveGalore

Fascinating how Violet somehow ended up on a configuration predating its recording.
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Reply #4 posted 09/30/21 5:16am

RODSERLING

Strollin' is the second A-side of Sexy MF, with its own music video.
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Reply #5 posted 09/30/21 6:18am

Milty2

I love this album. I remember the release being reported on the news because it had that hologram cover. Smart move.

Does anyone think that Prince was influenced by New Jack Swing when he wrote Gett Off?

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Reply #6 posted 09/30/21 7:21am

LoveGalore

Milty2 said:

I love this album. I remember the release being reported on the news because it had that hologram cover. Smart move.

Does anyone think that Prince was influenced by New Jack Swing when he wrote Gett Off?

Wouldn't surprise me since NJS was huge at the time. Considering Jam and Lewis had a huge hand in bringing the genre to the forefront at the time, it is no surprise Prince was inspired.

There's many other songs between the 89-92 era that feel directly inspired by it too.

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Reply #7 posted 09/30/21 7:47am

RODSERLING

NJS was inspired by Prince, amd Gett Off has nothing to do with what was called NJS at the time.
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Reply #8 posted 09/30/21 7:50am

Vannormal

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Honestly, what a bad record this was/is,

imho of course.

Listened to it again, nope. Still don't like it's dated overproduction and light songwriting.

Only ''Money Don't Matter 2 Nite'', ''Insatiable'' & ''Gett Off'' are OK...

to me.

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Reply #9 posted 09/30/21 8:04am

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RODSERLING said:

NJS was inspired by Prince, amd Gett Off has nothing to do with what was called NJS at the time.

How did Prince inspire NJS exactly? I heard nothing in his catalog like it before NJS went mainstream. I'm curious to understand how Prince influenced NJS because that never occurred to me and I still can not think of an example. NJS sucks donkey dongs, anyway, but I'm curious where your theory cums from.

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Reply #10 posted 09/30/21 8:04am

Marco81

Posted on the official Prince FB paga 20 mins ago:

""D to the I to the A to the M, O to the N to the D to the pearls of love..."
October 1.
Photograph by Randee St. Nicholas"

If this is not a hint...

[Edited 9/30/21 8:05am]

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Reply #11 posted 09/30/21 8:25am

laytonian

Marco81 said:

Posted on the official Prince FB paga 20 mins ago:

""D to the I to the A to the M, O to the N to the D to the pearls of love..."
October 1.
Photograph by Randee St. Nicholas"

If this is not a hint...

[Edited 9/30/21 8:05am]


It's more than a hint.
It better come with the holographic cover!

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #12 posted 09/30/21 8:29am

LoveGalore

steakfinger said:

RODSERLING said:

NJS was inspired by Prince, amd Gett Off has nothing to do with what was called NJS at the time.

How did Prince inspire NJS exactly? I heard nothing in his catalog like it before NJS went mainstream. I'm curious to understand how Prince influenced NJS because that never occurred to me and I still can not think of an example. NJS sucks donkey dongs, anyway, but I'm curious where your theory cums from.

NJS wasn't inspired by Prince, but Jam and Lewis did bring NJS to the forefront with Janet's 2nd and 3rd and 4th albums.

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Reply #13 posted 09/30/21 8:38am

antonb

laytonian said:

Marco81 said:

Posted on the official Prince FB paga 20 mins ago:

""D to the I to the A to the M, O to the N to the D to the pearls of love..."
October 1.
Photograph by Randee St. Nicholas"

If this is not a hint...

[Edited 9/30/21 8:05am]


It's more than a hint.
It better come with the holographic cover!

Why is it a hint?

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Reply #14 posted 09/30/21 8:50am

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Teasing ? something is cooking ?....i was wrong ...i think 2022 > So ...it is good to be wrong !

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Reply #15 posted 09/30/21 8:55am

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laytonian said:



Marco81 said:


Posted on the official Prince FB paga 20 mins ago:





""D to the I to the A to the M, O to the N to the D to the pearls of love..."



October 1.



Photograph by Randee St. Nicholas"



If this is not a hint...


[Edited 9/30/21 8:05am]




It's more than a hint.
It better come with the holographic cover!



I'm guessing there will be an announcement tomorrow (Oct 1).

Given the 30th anniversary of the album I think they will really need to release the set in some form this year...


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Reply #16 posted 09/30/21 10:10am

FrankieCoco1

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It better come with the holographic cover!


May be they could have one of the side of the lp produce a hologram like that Jack White Third Man Record, rather than etching.

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Reply #17 posted 09/30/21 11:24am

jn2

love2thenines2003 said:

Teasing ? something is cooking ?....i was wrong ...i think 2022 > So ...it is good to be wrong !





December this year!!
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Reply #18 posted 09/30/21 12:07pm

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let's not get too excited just yet. although: excited it would be pretty sweet to get it this year excited

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Reply #19 posted 09/30/21 1:36pm

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steakfinger said:

RODSERLING said:

NJS was inspired by Prince, amd Gett Off has nothing to do with what was called NJS at the time.

How did Prince inspire NJS exactly? I heard nothing in his catalog like it before NJS went mainstream. I'm curious to understand how Prince influenced NJS because that never occurred to me and I still can not think of an example. NJS sucks donkey dongs, anyway, but I'm curious where your theory cums from.


Janet Jackson's "Nasty" was arguably the first NJS song, and that was written in 1984 or early 1985 probably. Prince didn't inspire that. I know Prince thinks all of Control was a rip of his sound, but it wasn't.

And to say NJS sucks is short-sighted. Everything from Bobby Brown's Don't Be Cruel to Dangerous from MJ was NJS. Bell Biv Devoe, TLC and dozens of others with #1 hits did NJS songs.

"Gett Off" was NJS-adjacent, at best. One of my favorite Prince songs, but I've never said, "Oh Prince did this new jack swing song!" when I listen to it.

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Reply #20 posted 09/30/21 1:37pm

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Marco81 said:

Where does that November 1990 configuration come from? It's not listed on Princevault (well there is one, but it's different...)


I was pulling dates from Wikipedia real quick and some artwork, and lifted it from there.

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Reply #21 posted 09/30/21 1:54pm

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The only New Jack Swing type of song Prince wrote that really sounded like NJS was for Martika "Don't Say U Love Me." Other than that D and P, barely scratches the surface of the NJS sound.

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Reply #22 posted 09/30/21 9:11pm

ludwig

joyinrepetition said:

The only New Jack Swing type of song Prince wrote that really sounded like NJS was for Martika "Don't Say U Love Me." Other than that D and P, barely scratches the surface of the NJS sound.

Listen to "Acknowledge Me"again.

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Reply #23 posted 10/01/21 12:37am

Phase3

Think I'll wear my diamonds and pearls shirt today in honor of the anniversary
[Edited 10/1/21 0:39am]
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Reply #24 posted 10/01/21 1:24am

PURPLEIZED3121

Haters frome day 1 to present day...ridiculous.

Easily the smartest career move he ever made - he'd set trends constantly & like all great artists in their creative peak reached the mountain top. He stumbled with G.Bridge, lost huge pride BUT made a tonne of $ from the nude tour to compensate.

Questions then about whether P was still relevant...his attitude was pure P. Getting Frank Dileo on board for the tour was genuis, videos were incredible, amazing new look, mind blowing tour & YES using trends in music to incorporate into his sound to cross over even more. It worked brilliantly.

P was back & bigger than ever.

Now gimme that SDE!

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Reply #25 posted 10/01/21 7:34am

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Daddy Shit lol

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #26 posted 10/01/21 7:35am

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Lil Dude brags that he has grooves up on the shelf but keeps those grooves on the fucking shelve. lol Yea, shelve Cosmic Day but not Live 4 Love.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #27 posted 10/01/21 7:48am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Haters frome day 1 to present day...ridiculous.

Easily the smartest career move he ever made - he'd set trends constantly & like all great artists in their creative peak reached the mountain top. He stumbled with G.Bridge, lost huge pride BUT made a tonne of $ from the nude tour to compensate.

Questions then about whether P was still relevant...his attitude was pure P. Getting Frank Dileo on board for the tour was genuis, videos were incredible, amazing new look, mind blowing tour & YES using trends in music to incorporate into his sound to cross over even more. It worked brilliantly.

P was back & bigger than ever.

Now gimme that SDE!

D+P was my first album, I was 10. I remember the hot streak he was on, I always knew who he was but it was like a reintroduction. My mom talked me into getting it and the rest is history.

I am thrilled with this SDE and need it ASAP. I am more excited than I was for the others.

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Reply #28 posted 10/01/21 7:48am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Lil Dude brags that he has grooves up on the shelf but keeps those grooves on the fucking shelve. lol Yea, shelve Cosmic Day but not Live 4 Love.

lol I love that line!

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Reply #29 posted 10/01/21 7:58am

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All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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