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homesquid

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Curate The Inevitable Next "Best Of" CD

All WB physical releases out of print and while Sony took over the digital on these releases they surely will want to relese a new physical best of collection. The only snag is TMBGITW. In litigation last we heard. How could they release a career encompassing best of without it? Assuming the issue is settled create a REALISTIC 2 Disc Best Of. 75 minutes max each disc. 40 tracks- mostly single versions. Think like a business person not a rabid fan.

Disc 1

1. Soft & Wet

2. I Wanna Be Your Lover

3. Dirty Mind

4. When U Were Mine

5. Controversy

6. 1999

7. Little Red Corvette

8. Delirious

9. Purple Rain

10. Let's Go Crazy

11. I Would Die 4 U

12. When Doves Cry

13. Raspberry Beret

14. Pop Life

15. Kiss

16. SOTT

17. U Got The Look

18. ICNTTPOYM

19. Alphabet St

20. Thieves In The Temple

Disc 2

1. Batdance

2. Get Off

3. Cream

4. Diamonds & Pearls

5. Sexy MF

6. 7

7. TMBGITW

8. I Hate U

9. Letitgo

10. The Holy River

11. So Far So Pleased

12. Musicology

13. Black Sweat

14. Fury

15. Guitar

16. Chocolate Box

17. Breakfast Can Wait

18. RockNRoll Love Affair

19. Manic Monday

20. Nothing Compares 2 U

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Reply #1 posted 09/09/21 2:59pm

RODSERLING

I have my The Hits 3 that could have completed the first two.
A joint release between WB, Sony, Universal.

By chronological order :

1. Batdance
2. Partyman ( opener of the album)
3. Scandalous ( one of his best streamed tracks)
4. Money Don't Matter 2Nite
5. My Name Is Prince
6. TMBGITW
7. Let It Go
8. Get Wild
9. I Hate U
10. Gold ( last track of the album)
11. Betcha By Golly Wow
12 Holy River
13. Musicology
14. Call My Name
15. Cinnamon Girl
16. Blacksweat
17. Song of the Heart
18. Manic Monday.
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Reply #2 posted 09/09/21 4:09pm

Bighead

homesquid said:

All WB physical releases out of print and while Sony took over the digital on these releases they surely will want to relese a new physical best of collection. The only snag is TMBGITW. In litigation last we heard. How could they release a career encompassing best of without it? Assuming the issue is settled create a REALISTIC 2 Disc Best Of. 75 minutes max each disc. 40 tracks- mostly single versions. Think like a business person not a rabid fan.




Disc 1


1. Soft & Wet


2. I Wanna Be Your Lover


3. Dirty Mind


4. When U Were Mine


5. Controversy


6. 1999


7. Little Red Corvette


8. Delirious


9. Purple Rain


10. Let's Go Crazy


11. I Would Die 4 U


12. When Doves Cry


13. Raspberry Beret


14. Pop Life


15. Kiss


16. SOTT


17. U Got The Look


18. ICNTTPOYM


19. Alphabet St


20. Thieves In The Temple



Disc 2


1. Batdance


2. Get Off


3. Cream


4. Diamonds & Pearls


5. Sexy MF


6. 7


7. TMBGITW


8. I Hate U


9. Letitgo


10. The Holy River


11. So Far So Pleased


12. Musicology


13. Black Sweat


14. Fury


15. Guitar


16. Chocolate Box


17. Breakfast Can Wait


18. RockNRoll Love Affair


19. Manic Monday


20. Nothing Compares 2 U




All this minus Manic Monday. That was a Bangles greatest hit. ( written by Prince )
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Reply #3 posted 09/09/21 6:46pm

LoveGalore

Bighead said:

homesquid said:

All WB physical releases out of print and while Sony took over the digital on these releases they surely will want to relese a new physical best of collection. The only snag is TMBGITW. In litigation last we heard. How could they release a career encompassing best of without it? Assuming the issue is settled create a REALISTIC 2 Disc Best Of. 75 minutes max each disc. 40 tracks- mostly single versions. Think like a business person not a rabid fan.




Disc 1


1. Soft & Wet


2. I Wanna Be Your Lover


3. Dirty Mind


4. When U Were Mine


5. Controversy


6. 1999


7. Little Red Corvette


8. Delirious


9. Purple Rain


10. Let's Go Crazy


11. I Would Die 4 U


12. When Doves Cry


13. Raspberry Beret


14. Pop Life


15. Kiss


16. SOTT


17. U Got The Look


18. ICNTTPOYM


19. Alphabet St


20. Thieves In The Temple



Disc 2


1. Batdance


2. Get Off


3. Cream


4. Diamonds & Pearls


5. Sexy MF


6. 7


7. TMBGITW


8. I Hate U


9. Letitgo


10. The Holy River


11. So Far So Pleased


12. Musicology


13. Black Sweat


14. Fury


15. Guitar


16. Chocolate Box


17. Breakfast Can Wait


18. RockNRoll Love Affair


19. Manic Monday


20. Nothing Compares 2 U




All this minus Manic Monday. That was a Bangles greatest hit. ( written by Prince )


And what was NC2U? Salad dressing?
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Reply #4 posted 09/09/21 7:44pm

Phase3

Nooooo
Enough with "the best of"
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Reply #5 posted 09/09/21 9:03pm

FragileUnderto
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Phase3 said:

Nooooo
Enough with "the best of"

yeahthat
Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #6 posted 09/09/21 10:13pm

udo

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homesquid said:

All WB physical releases out of print and while Sony took over the digital on these releases they surely will want to relese a new physical best of collection.

.

'Best of' type releases are to be ignored unless they continin something 'new'.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #7 posted 09/09/21 11:19pm

Bighead

And what was NC2U?

Salad dressing on The Hits. ( a prince album )
[Edited 9/9/21 23:21pm]
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Reply #8 posted 09/09/21 11:26pm

Vannormal

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To me, the known Best-Off Prince releases so far have one thing in comon,

they are particularly bad Prince albums due to lack of consistency.

There are far better best-off albums by others out there, because their sound (for instance) remains the same.

There is a complete lack of 'feel' and uniformity as an album, just from the use of edit versions alone.

As if it was coldly cut and pasted. Not to mention the general poor mixing.

Prince's music throughout his whole career just doesn't mingle that way imho.

They all come from such different albums, era's, atmosphere's etc.

Just look at this random order from ''The Hits 1'', and think for yourself:

I could never take the place of your man

Nothing compares 2 U (live)

Adore

Pink Cashmere

Alphabet St.

Sign 'O The Times

Thieves In The Temple

Diamonds and Pearls

I mean...

By the way, did anyone here ever truly listened to these best-off's in one take ?

It's even wose when (a) new songs() are added, imho.

Why not some kind of continuous mixtape (eg done by Questlove)?

I would prefer that much more. Also more orignal.

Yeah I know it's been done by others, but this could work for Prince's wide range of styles and very different songs.

So, no thank you!

Not for me please. smile

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[Edited 9/10/21 22:32pm]

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #9 posted 09/10/21 3:55am

funkbabyandthe
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no point in curating these unless its a comp for the last 15-20 years. thats more of a challenge.

[Edited 9/10/21 3:55am]

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Reply #10 posted 09/10/21 4:18am

leecaldon

LoveGalore said:

Bighead said:
All this minus Manic Monday. That was a Bangles greatest hit. ( written by Prince )
And what was NC2U? Salad dressing?

But Prince actually performed NC2U very regularly over the years, and released two live versions of it on audio and one on DVD. He reclaimed that as one of his own.

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Reply #11 posted 09/10/21 11:10am

embmmusic

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As far as I'm aware TMBGITW is no longer in litigation, the case ended in favour of the Italian songwriters. It can't be released in Italy without striking a deal with them. How that would affect worldwide releases I'm not sure.

Check out The Collector's Guide to Prince on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/p...4ldzxwlEuy
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Reply #12 posted 09/10/21 1:01pm

LoveGalore

embmmusic said:

As far as I'm aware TMBGITW is no longer in litigation, the case ended in favour of the Italian songwriters. It can't be released in Italy without striking a deal with them. How that would affect worldwide releases I'm not sure.



If it were in the clear, it would be on Spotify.
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Reply #13 posted 09/10/21 9:11pm

udo

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LoveGalore said:

embmmusic said:

As far as I'm aware TMBGITW is no longer in litigation, the case ended in favour of the Italian songwriters. It can't be released in Italy without striking a deal with them. How that would affect worldwide releases I'm not sure.

If it were in the clear, it would be on Spotify.

.

If they were correct, paying attention and having paid the minion to put it on spottify.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #14 posted 09/12/21 6:08pm

Graycap23

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Prince doesn't need 2 do that.

That is 4 people with small catalogues.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #15 posted 09/12/21 8:43pm

embmmusic

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LoveGalore said:

embmmusic said:

As far as I'm aware TMBGITW is no longer in litigation, the case ended in favour of the Italian songwriters. It can't be released in Italy without striking a deal with them. How that would affect worldwide releases I'm not sure.

If it were in the clear, it would be on Spotify.

It isn't in the clear though. Prince lost the case.

Check out The Collector's Guide to Prince on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/p...4ldzxwlEuy
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Reply #16 posted 09/13/21 1:56am

RODSERLING

LoveGalore said:

embmmusic said:

As far as I'm aware TMBGITW is no longer in litigation, the case ended in favour of the Italian songwriters. It can't be released in Italy without striking a deal with them. How that would affect worldwide releases I'm not sure.



If it were in the clear, it would be on Spotify.


And on YouTube, and Gold Experience would have been re released on CD, vinyl, etc.
Remember Gold Experience was supposed to be the most bankable re release of the Prince Sony Legacy catalogue, TMBGITW has been a worldwide hit, I Hate You was a US #12 hit, and the Gold single was a UK top ten and sold there 120,000 copies.
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Reply #17 posted 09/13/21 4:56am

jfenster

FragileUndertow said:

Phase3 said:

Nooooo
Enough with "the best of"

yeahthat

Reallyy...why give thembadideas?
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Reply #18 posted 09/13/21 5:13am

fredmagnus

Exactly. No more Best of please.

We want new (unheard) music.

Why the hell would we need something we already have ?

We all make our own playlists, don't we ?

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Reply #19 posted 09/13/21 7:55am

Se7en

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I like the idea of a series Questlove-curated "mixtapes".


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Reply #20 posted 09/13/21 8:12am

homesquid

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neutral

Yes I know WE don't need a new Best Of. But the market will need one soon. Think like you work for Sony

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Reply #21 posted 09/13/21 4:00pm

Cinny

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I thought prince Anthology 1995-2010 was interesting enough, especially since I didn't notice "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was missing at first!

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Reply #22 posted 09/13/21 11:06pm

Vannormal

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homesquid said:

neutral

Yes I know WE don't need a new Best Of. But the market will need one soon. Think like you work for Sony

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Well, Sony is wrong then imho.

There are three Best Of's out there, and a couple of other compilation too;

Anthology 1995-2020 - (2018 streams only)

Ultimate Prince - 2006
The Very Best Of Prince - ​2001
(Girl 6 - ​1996)
(1-800-New-Funk - ​1994)
The Hits / The B-Sides - ​1993

Most of these releases basically are the ones still available in most wreckastows (over here).

In my opinion, I can live with the fact if they choose to release another Hits package, only if they do it via streaming.

For that i could care less (as a fan).

I also prefer new music.

Or release the known Hits in earlier or alternate versions package.

Something like the Beatles did for most of their records.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #23 posted 09/14/21 4:22am

RODSERLING

Cinny said:

I thought prince Anthology 1995-2010 was interesting enough, especially since I didn't notice "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was missing at first!



This " Anthology " Was a mess amd completely out of touch.
Nobody in the general audience would want to hear such a tracklist, and that's why it never charted anywhere.

If Sony had the rights to TMBGITW, they would have released a physical true greatest hits of that era 1995/2010 at the end of 2018.
They would have sold it a little million, and that would have been good business for them.

There still wasn't Sony Legacy reissues at the time, so it would have been a marketing argument that would be the only way to own some tracks that were completely out of print for decades.

Surety they would have released a dvd with the videos too.
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Reply #24 posted 09/14/21 5:44am

AvocadosMax

Honestly do ‘best of’ CDs even sell anymore outside of the boomer market?

Serious though. We stream stuff and if we like it enough, we buy it
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Reply #25 posted 09/14/21 7:47am

leecaldon

RODSERLING said:

Cinny said:

I thought prince Anthology 1995-2010 was interesting enough, especially since I didn't notice "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was missing at first!

This " Anthology " Was a mess amd completely out of touch. Nobody in the general audience would want to hear such a tracklist, and that's why it never charted anywhere. If Sony had the rights to TMBGITW, they would have released a physical true greatest hits of that era 1995/2010 at the end of 2018. They would have sold it a little million, and that would have been good business for them. There still wasn't Sony Legacy reissues at the time, so it would have been a marketing argument that would be the only way to own some tracks that were completely out of print for decades. Surety they would have released a dvd with the videos too.

It was a very odd track selection. Emancipation might have made thematic sense to open it, but it's a strange opener otherwise. And We March to close? Again, that surely wasn't included on the strength of the actual music over the dozens of songs that weren't included.

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Reply #26 posted 09/14/21 8:57am

Se7en

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Vannormal said:

homesquid said:

neutral

Yes I know WE don't need a new Best Of. But the market will need one soon. Think like you work for Sony

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Well, Sony is wrong then imho.

There are three Best Of's out there, and a couple of other compilation too;

Anthology 1995-2020 - (2018 streams only)

Ultimate Prince - 2006
The Very Best Of Prince - ​2001
(Girl 6 - ​1996)
(1-800-New-Funk - ​1994)
The Hits / The B-Sides - ​1993

Most of these releases basically are the ones still available in most wreckastows (over here).

In my opinion, I can live with the fact if they choose to release another Hits package, only if they do it via streaming.

For that i could care less (as a fan).

I also prefer new music.

Or release the known Hits in earlier or alternate versions package.

Something like the Beatles did for most of their records.

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You are missing one very large, somewhat recent (2016) greatest hits package: 4Ever.

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Reply #27 posted 09/14/21 9:00am

RODSERLING

AvocadosMax said:

Honestly do ‘best of’ CDs even sell anymore outside of the boomer market?

Serious though. We stream stuff and if we like it enough, we buy it


Of course greatest hits package keep on selling well physically.

Even better than 99% of new releases.
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Reply #28 posted 09/14/21 9:02am

RODSERLING

leecaldon said:



RODSERLING said:


Cinny said:

I thought prince Anthology 1995-2010 was interesting enough, especially since I didn't notice "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was missing at first!



This " Anthology " Was a mess amd completely out of touch. Nobody in the general audience would want to hear such a tracklist, and that's why it never charted anywhere. If Sony had the rights to TMBGITW, they would have released a physical true greatest hits of that era 1995/2010 at the end of 2018. They would have sold it a little million, and that would have been good business for them. There still wasn't Sony Legacy reissues at the time, so it would have been a marketing argument that would be the only way to own some tracks that were completely out of print for decades. Surety they would have released a dvd with the videos too.


It was a very odd track selection. Emancipation might have made thematic sense to open it, but it's a strange opener otherwise. And We March to close? Again, that surely wasn't included on the strength of the actual music over the dozens of songs that weren't included.



What wasn't included ?
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Reply #29 posted 09/15/21 1:35am

Vannormal

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Se7en said:

Vannormal said:

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Well, Sony is wrong then imho.

There are three Best Of's out there, and a couple of other compilation too;

Anthology 1995-2020 - (2018 streams only)

Ultimate Prince - 2006
The Very Best Of Prince - ​2001
(Girl 6 - ​1996)
(1-800-New-Funk - ​1994)
The Hits / The B-Sides - ​1993

Most of these releases basically are the ones still available in most wreckastows (over here).

In my opinion, I can live with the fact if they choose to release another Hits package, only if they do it via streaming.

For that i could care less (as a fan).

I also prefer new music.

Or release the known Hits in earlier or alternate versions package.

Something like the Beatles did for most of their records.

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You are missing one very large, somewhat recent (2016) greatest hits package: 4Ever.

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Absolutely !

Thank you !

wink

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And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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