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Number 23's Welcome 2 America review thread Now that the other W2A thread has been mysteriously deleted, I’ve changed the title of this one so we have somewhere to post about the record and add critics’ official reviews. Guessing there were too many requests for the leak on the other one and the powers that be have had a word … and if they’re reading this, mine is a review copy that I’ve been given permission to write about. My initial thoughts, for what they’re worth …
Others have said this is Prince’s mash up of Gil Scott Heron and P Funk (Wants To Get Funked Up) and they’re not wrong, but it’s actually more reminiscent of his own The War (which, of course, was directly inspired by Heron’s work) where he presents himself as not as an energised master of ceremonies, balladeer or partyman but a preacher/prophet of encroaching societal cataclysm.
RUNNING GAME (SON OF A SLAVE MASTER) A nice cylindrical, smoky, Goldnigga-reminiscent rootsy guitar lick welcomes us to a mature-sounding groove, joined by mellow yet dense, snap crackle n popping organic drums in the mix’s foreground - complimented and sweetened by a lovely little single bell buried deep in the mix at the end of each bar. The main synth hook is a nice future-retro Emancipation/NPS synth but warmer and works due to the juxtaposition with the natural sonic landscape. It arrives as a cool breeze sweeping though the organic cosiness of the live instrumentation.
I suppose everyone reading will have already heard this. I like it more with each listen, reminds me of Shy lyrically in terms of its simple but concise concept of a sensitive ghetto girl ‘gone wrong’. Horns are more Issac than Curtis to me, but the groove is certainly Lil Chile Running Wild-era Mayfield. A huge yet tasteful, lush, summertime production fills the room with sunlight and glittering gold as it plays, but the heat it suggests is perhaps symbolic of the stifling pressure of the streets, an unbearably suffocating and highly pressured existence. As a producer, Morris Hayes certainly has some enviable ears.
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1000 LIGHT YEARS FROM HERE Prince referenced retreating from society and living underground in The War. And here he suggests something similar, only deep in the oceans. In what, I imagine, is the far, far future. This is a future soul song, but perhaps everyone was too polite to mention to P that light years is a measure of distance, not time. So unless he’s talking about a (very) distant planet we all eventually migrate to, it’s best not to dwell on the physics.
Well. To me, within the context of the album’s overriding thematic premise, he’s talking about riots. I doubt he’s going to throw a song in the middle of a record like this about it being a bit sunny in July when every other track is about problematic societal issues.
When I was young and even more naive I would have said this had a ‘Christian rock’ production. Safe with rounded edges, a bit too fluffy and smooth on the ears. If this is the warm organic studio sound we were after from Prince then maybe we should have been careful what we wished for.
‘Your heart gets cold – ur tired of doing everything ur told’ Then a genuinely lovingly sung heavenly bridge – that also really serves as the song’s chorus and main hook – ‘Lalalalala ….’
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CHECK THE RECORD Now for something … interesting. A heavy funk groove is the hook which teases the listener with a repeated, circular unresolved ending at the end of the bar where you genuinely hold your breath waiting for the note you think is coming … until it gives you the middle finger and the bass comes round again behind you and puts you flat on your arse. It’s accompanied by complex, syncopated, staccato drums - a big spacy languid splashy rolling groove – played wonderfully but would loved to have heard Sonny and Michael B kill it.
Like Hot Summer, this song makes much more sense here as part of a cohesive theme and sound than it did as an individual download. It’s a playful – if slightly claustrophobic - rolling funk groove with a great bassline and woozy see-saw synths. It must be said however that I detest that digital percussion effect he used to death around this time and it’s present with a vengeance here. It’s like knives down my spine, but there’s no denying the rest of this tune this is candy to the ears sonically. It’s never going to be anyone’s favourite song, except Shelby’s apparently, but it has some nice low key synths carrying the hook.
What time is it? Prince sex ballad time. And speaking of masterworks, this just might actually be seen by musical historians of the future as one of his very best efforts within that idiom. Which is a league of one, obviously, but even competing with himself he can produce something that sounds at once familiar, yet fresh. Like this work of sensuous wonder.
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1010 (RIN TIN TIN) A song perhaps boasting Prince’s oddest song title in a catalogue spanning more than 2000 songs should be an ominous sign. Maybe Merci for the Speed of a Mad Clown in Summer has it pipped but it’s still a chin-stroker.
Or Y-E-S, as Liz, Shelby and Elisa chant in unision to introduce us to this celebratory rave to the joy fantastic. It’s a hard stomping glittery whoosh of a sonic experience – relentlessly upbeat, a synth-gospel Family Stone electric shock with a hard rock underbelly and techno elements – in vibe it’s also quite similar to some of the driving, upbeat 3EG stuff like Mars.
So, to conclude this musical journey through 70’s R&B and Prince’s realisation that everyone achieving inner harmony – or saying ‘Yes’ to ourselves – can change the entire world, by simply becoming the change we want to see, we’re whisked off to the magical world of Stevieland for one last stop-off - for in terms of arrangement and vocal phrasing, this is very Innervisions/Talking Book - but with enough modern production twists in terms of the shimmering warmth, clarity and depth in the drums that’s captured, ensuring it’s not a total pastiche.
Sorry it’s not a hidden song on track 77, it’s literally my brief conclusion.
However it’s clear that this record is incredibly cohesive - both thematically and in production. I posted about this before but to me it’s a concept album about slavery - to inherited hierarchies, to false histories, to generational lies, to race, to patriotism, to technology, to sexuality, to gender, to religion … and to love and lust.
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stickified Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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Wow....have u done this for all his albums?? | |
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You should write a book on prince Anyone who can write that much on the weaker songs should be published lol | |
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Thanks. I really enjoyed reading your thoughts I was going to give the album a rest until Friday but I'm going to have to listen again now. | |
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Everybody mentions The War but I always think of Xenophobia when I hear Welcome 2 America. It has the same sort of off-kilter vibe.
Cool review.
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Wow. Remarkable review/take.
You put into words my feelings about "Stand Up..." perfectly.
Bravo. Thank you! I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore... | |
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Thank you so much - I really appreciated reading your observations. You sure have a way with words! I'm now really excited to hear Check The Record. | |
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Would be intersting to find out what the tracklist was for the configuration that Morris produced
Anyone have any ideas what other tracks were floating around at this time ? | |
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I don't know what Number23 eats for breakfast, but he/she has absolutely FANTASTIC observations. I'm always impressed with those with such an ability to convey their thoughts so effectively. When their thoughts sync with my own, I am even more impressed as he/she is literally putting on paper the thoughts floating in MY mind. I looked forward to Number23's review after reading his wonderful SOTT Deluxe reviews.
My thoughts are, this is a cohesive album. Yes, have heard this word used in many reviews. It does make me wonder if this is Prince's doing or something Morris Hayes decided to do. I feel if it were Prince, he'd have thrown a 'screw driver' in the middle just to ruin the flow:) Not really kidding.
Anyway, on first full listen...it was the last song 'One Day We Will Be Free' that caught my attention immediately. With his effortless guitar playing throughout, made me miss him again. Did he ever play that thing well. So so melodic....so easy for him The song, like the rest of the album, sounded SO clean. I can see putting this on some of my 'audiophile' medleys. Sounds great.
1000 Lights Years...I absolutely loved the section on part 2 of the Black Muse track. So, I was looking forward to this. TO my surprise, it did not grip me right away. The pace is much slower but, rawer which I know I'm going to love. As I said to a friend, it's these ones that don't catch me right away that I end up loving most later. Again, that guitar part in the middle...wow. He just had a special touch. As always, even the most throwaway cut (and this is not one) could have redeeming charachtaristics like this.
The bass playing is so interesting. As I heard Tal say herself on that offical podcast, she was putting in fills everywhere...not realizing they'd make the final version. I just love all the interesting bits and pieces in Check the Record. So so good. There is some part of it that sounds very simple....something simple that drives the song but again, its growing on me and as with many of this songs, some things are just sinking into my sub concious. I'll appreciate them more as they come to the fore.
I am not a big fan of the title track but as Num23 has said, it's better as part of the album as is Hot Summer. I like the subject matter, and I do think some observations are clever. I just don't care for the song...its not even a song as much as it's a long intro.
When She Comes - I always loved the delicate version on Phase 2. Loved it. I can't believe there is a more delicate version now I have long loved his more organic music and this is it. From the vocals, the sparse instrumentation.....it has every ingredient that I love but I must admit, i'm not yet actually into the song. I know I will be but it has not hit me yet. This is probably b/c the version i know well is still firmly lodged in my mind It will take some more time for it to dislodge and allow this version to creep in.
His opening line in 'Stand Up' startled me. It reminded me of how unique a voice he had. I am not sure what I think of the whole song, but I loved his singing.
As for the rest, I need more time with it. I have high hopes for 1010 b/c of what Number23 has said about it.
Overall, this is a fantastic album. I too don't believe it to be a Rainbow Children or LOtus Flower but even mentioning Welcome 2 America alongside those are high praise. Another excellent release by the Estate!
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Check the Record has that one run that has that Rebirth of the Flesh rhythm/melody... | |
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Wow...just started reading this great deep review. Wud love to hear your theory of why he shelved it. | |
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could it be that the review is better than the actual music? | |
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Come on!
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So we know who to blame... lol... bless him, wherever he may be... The Earth is but one country and mankind its citizens. | |
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said: You should write a book on prince
Appreciate that, but it's not really what I could classify as 'writing' - it's not sober nor sculpted, just thoughts quickly rattled out with countless references that would only make sense to a rabid fanbase - very messy, insular and indulgent. Any decent editor would tell me to tone down the hyperbole and count to ten before typing.
Anyone who can write that much on the weaker songs should be published lol Thing is, I couldn’t write about something like When Doves Cry - maybe about its impact on pop culture or something, but the song itself? I’d be looking at a blank page/screen for days. You almost feel you don’t have the right to write about something so artistically devastating as you’d have to match it somehow - if you also view writing as an artform. It casts such a shadow. Anyone with the balls to write about When Doves Cry is fearless and has my admiration. Prince’s ‘new’ stuff has no such cultural baggage so it’s easy to get into a creative zone analysing it due to excitement at its freshness. It’s energising - I don’t have the energy to write about When Doves Cry. Not that my writing here is particularly creative, like I said it’s just thoughts written down. However, I could possibly write a book on Purple & Gold. Seriously - such a unique, one-off sonic experiment in the Prince catalogue? I mean, why? How? Who engineered it? Did they have a stroke trying to keep a straight face in front of Prince? I could easy get a book out of Purple & Gold. It’s fascinating. [Edited 7/30/21 2:13am] | |
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Strong NYTimes Review with similar insights... | |
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https://www.metacritic.co...ica/prince
Here are 9 of the first reviews of the album, 8 of them postive. | |
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You´re being very, very humble here. I immensely enjoy reading almost anything you write here, you have such a way with words and you obviously seem to be able to put people´s thoughts into words. I´m glad you´re back on the org after a long hiatus (or several hiatuses?) , and you are one of the main reasons I still log in to the org every now and then, regardless of whether I agree or disagree with your posts. I haven´t really made up my mind about Welcome 2 America yet, but reading your opinion on the new album was a real pleasure.
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Love your review. So damn thoughtful and deep. Thank you for all the effort you put into it. And for sharing it. (Can I put in a plug for Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance as another contender for oddest song title?) "She made me glad to be a man" | |
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I just quickly sampled the album, but the ones that stood out for me on first listen are the tittle track and Rin Tin Tin | |
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Fantastic write-up! Love the coffee revels analogy of Hot Summer. | |
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When future generations ask why TL;DR became a thing, this multipost review will be one of the explanatory exhibits. | |
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Thanks for the great review (a little long?).
I think Dear Mr Man is a better comparison than The War. Did you refer to Tal as “he”???? My take’s still out on the album - nothing really excites me,but I liked the vibe of the title track and Born to Die when they came out and agree that Hot Summer and SPDB sound better as part of the whole package. I like the sound and the lyrical theme and the fact that there’s depth - actually, that does link this, in a way no one’s mentioning, with 20ten. The themes are similar, this just puts the lyrics more in your face, because there’s less focus on the music - they’re mainly just grooves. I find Check the Record Intriguing, which probably means it will be a fave. Rin Tin Tin puzzling which means I may like it but I may not. The last track at this stage sounds like a fizzler to me (a la Planet Earth in general and its closers, or Phase One..), which is a bummer. Overall though a good album and nice to hear. I’m guessing I’d have been a lot more critical and disappointed if it was released back then. Now, it’s great to hear new music and an interesting direction. The influences on this are all among my favorite artists - GSH, Curtis, Sly, Stevie, GC - so I definitely enjoy it. I’ve also been dying to hear what he recorded with Tal and CC ever since the rumours emerged back then that they had played with him so I’m happy to finally hear it and the only disappointment is that they didn’t continue with him and tour. The last five years could have taken a completely different turn... [Edited 8/1/21 2:38am] "We've never been able to pull off a funk number"
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wasitgood4u said: Thanks for the great review (a little long?). I think Dear Mr Man is a better comparison than The War. Did you refer to Tal as “he”???? My take’s still out on the album - nothing really excites me,but I liked the vibe of the title track and Born to Die when they came out and agree that Hot Summer and SPDB sound better as part of the whole package. I like the sound and the lyrical theme and the fact that there’s depth - actually, that does link this, in a way no one’s mentioning, with 20ten. The themes are similar, this just puts the lyrics more in your face, because there’s less focus on the music - they’re mainly just grooves. I find Check the Record Intriguing, which probably means it will be a fave. Rin Tin Tin puzzling which means I may like it but I may not. The last track at this stage sounds like a fizzler to me (a la Planet Earth in general and its closers, or Phase One..), which is a bummer. Overall though a good album and nice to hear. I’m guessing I’d have been a lot more critical and disappointed if it was released back then. Now, it’s great to hear new music and an interesting direction. The influences on this are all among my favorite artists - GSH, Curtis, Sly, Stevie, GC - so I definitely enjoy it. I’ve also been dying to hear what he recorded with Tal and CC ever since the rumours emerged back then that they had played with him so I’m happy to finally hear it and the only disappointment is that they didn’t continue with him and tour. The last five years could have taken a completely different turn... [Edited 8/1/21 2:38am] You still hung up with the whole he/she thing? This is a woke review MF. | |
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As good as W2A is, it is not a melodic album. I would have loved a song or two on there with a real melody. I do love it though, and it is a tremendously cohesive offering, with Hot Summer diverging just a little bit from the overall feel of the album. "You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013 | |
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Keep coming back to this great review...thanks 23. 1010 is a brilliant jam...One Man Band Studio Genius Prince. It also brings me back to this interview quote...“I personally can’t stand digital music,” he says. “You’re getting sound in bits. It affects a different place in your brain. When you play it back, you can’t feel anything. We’re analogue people, not digital.” He’s warming to his theme. “Ringtones!” he exclaims. “Have you ever been in a room where there’s 17 ringtones going off at once?” | |
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