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Reply #30 posted 08/17/21 5:33am

emesem

ALways liked it. Fav part is mumbling "You dont love me. You're a faker. You just want me for my acres" while greedly munching on Cap'n Crunch!

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Reply #31 posted 08/17/21 6:03am

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dodger said:

TheEnglishGent said:

It's ok, but not even close to making it onto my single disc version of Emancipation. So many better songs on the set for my ears.

That would be a cool thread...


lol

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Reply #32 posted 08/17/21 8:24am

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dodger said:

That would be a cool thread...


lol

it has been done several times lol.

but maybe its time to do it again!

it is the 25th anniversary of the album after all

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im not sure my faves on this album have changed.

it would prob still be just a single album/cd -

in this bed eye scream

Courting time

white mansion

i cant make u love me

soul sanctuary

curious child

dreamin about u

holy river

lets have a baby

the plan

slave

my computer

one of us

the love we make



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[Edited 8/18/21 14:28pm]

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Reply #33 posted 08/17/21 12:37pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

dodger said:

That would be a cool thread...


lol

lol neutral

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Reply #34 posted 08/17/21 1:18pm

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

SquirrelMeat said:


lol

it has been done several times lol.

Hmm, don't remember ever seeing one of them.

RIP sad
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Reply #35 posted 08/17/21 1:21pm

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Emancipation album is Prince's best work in the 90's post WB.

Is it *****

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Reply #36 posted 08/17/21 3:13pm

cooldayla

Despite not being an original...the correct answer is the incredible Soul Sanctuary.

https://sandrastvictor.ba.../sanctuary

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Reply #37 posted 08/17/21 3:25pm

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It's one of the top 5 tracks. I still think Holy River is the jewel follwed by FriendLoverSisterMotherWife, Jam Of The Year and Right Back Here In My Arms

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Reply #38 posted 08/17/21 3:28pm

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SantanaMaitreya said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

savion glover's tap performance/solo is the highlight of the song, which already has many highs.

it's not a 10, no. but I've listened to it very very often. love almost everything about it.



Highlight? Low point! It's by far the most annoying part of the whole record. Tap dancing on a CD, how stupid is that. That's something you need to watch, not listen to. It's like listening to a tennis match without seeing it; totally pointless. What was he thinking? The song is too good to be ruined by the silly tap dance, but would have been better without it. I want to hear music, not sound effects.
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So I'm guessing that you don't like environmental records? Supposed to make you horny. Maybe you've missed all the sound effects in P's music since the early albums... I mean I don't know if I like the tap dancing but it helps to paint a musical picture.
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Reply #39 posted 08/18/21 7:05am

LILpoundCAKE

SantanaMaitreya said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

savion glover's tap performance/solo is the highlight of the song, which already has many highs.

it's not a 10, no. but I've listened to it very very often. love almost everything about it.


Highlight? Low point! It's by far the most annoying part of the whole record. Tap dancing on a CD, how stupid is that. That's something you need to watch, not listen to. It's like listening to a tennis match without seeing it; totally pointless. What was he thinking? The song is too good to be ruined by the silly tap dance, but would have been better without it. I want to hear music, not sound effects. [Edited 8/16/21 14:15pm] [Edited 8/16/21 14:16pm]


lol lol lol


wait, you ARE kidding, right? eek

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Reply #40 posted 08/18/21 7:22am

Mackopolis44

No, just no. It's one of the weakest in my opinion. I'm glad that some people love it but, as subjective as music is, I really think it's a dull tune. Sorry, I just don't get it. I don't get the paintings of Picasso either so maybe it's my miss πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜ŽβœŒπŸŽΉ
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Reply #41 posted 08/18/21 7:40am

PJMcGee

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LILpoundCAKE said:



SantanaMaitreya said:


LILpoundCAKE said:

savion glover's tap performance/solo is the highlight of the song, which already has many highs.

it's not a 10, no. but I've listened to it very very often. love almost everything about it.




Highlight? Low point! It's by far the most annoying part of the whole record. Tap dancing on a CD, how stupid is that. That's something you need to watch, not listen to. It's like listening to a tennis match without seeing it; totally pointless. What was he thinking? The song is too good to be ruined by the silly tap dance, but would have been better without it. I want to hear music, not sound effects. [Edited 8/16/21 14:15pm] [Edited 8/16/21 14:16pm]


lol lol lol


wait, you ARE kidding, right? eek



I agree with SM here. Pointless noises. Someone could have been tapping on a desk and have the same effect.
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Reply #42 posted 08/18/21 8:22am

funkbabyandthe
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PJMcGee said:

LILpoundCAKE said:


lol lol lol


wait, you ARE kidding, right? eek

I agree with SM here. Pointless noises. Someone could have been tapping on a desk and have the same effect.

sort of related: he got way into stupid, unncessary, and often totally literal sound effects during the mid-late 90s.

like i needed those sports effects in the emancipation title track.

or the clock ticking in TMBGITW.

just gimmicky crap.

i dont mind the tap dancing.

its just like hearing any other instrument.

but i dont think it was recorded all that well in terms of the rest of the song.

not that it matters, its all part and parcel of the 'everything but the kitchen sink' approach of J2J.


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Reply #43 posted 08/18/21 8:25am

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This is what makes Emancipation a good album. While some feel it's bloated, I see it as Prince giving everyone a little something that appeals to their ears.

For instance, I think Holy River is so bland, boring and was so dissapointed when he released that as a single when there were more interesting songs to chose from. But see that is a fan favorite, it's corny as hell to me (I hate his "light rock" songs - see Planet Earth album).

Joint2Joint stuck out immediately for me when they played a snippet of it when he did the Emancipation special from Paisley Park. I had to find out what song that was cuz it just sounded amazing, electric and interesting. I wasn't let down when I heard the full version. This is funny, quirky Prince (my fav). The change up in the middle is so dope! The bass...Lawdt! I agree with Housequake, J2J is fucking amazing!

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Reply #44 posted 08/18/21 8:37am

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holy river is a light rock song that is one of his best written and heartfelt - thats what makes it good.

later on, he would try and so similar songs, but they were basically emotionally empty, and therefore just filler.

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Reply #45 posted 08/18/21 8:42am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

holy river is a light rock song that is one of his best written and heartfelt - thats what makes it good.

later on, he would try and so similar songs, but they were basically emotionally empty, and therefore just filler.

Different strokes...I feel the same way about Holy River. I love just about 90% of what Prince has put out- I am such a fan of his songwriting, Holy River is just so MEH especially coming off of J2J.

Again, this is just my personal opinion. WHATEVER PEANUTBUTTER'S YOUR JELLY!

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Reply #46 posted 08/18/21 9:25am

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I think Holy River is touching, the way Prince sang about his beliefs in a clear way, without elaborate metaphor. It's one of his most heartfelt lyrics, and some of his most direct, emotional singing.
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Reply #47 posted 08/18/21 12:13pm

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PJMcGee said:

I think Holy River is touching, the way Prince sang about his beliefs in a clear way, without elaborate metaphor. It's one of his most heartfelt lyrics, and some of his most direct, emotional singing.


You are on the right side of history
cool
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Reply #48 posted 08/18/21 12:34pm

larksanders

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

PJMcGee said:
I think Holy River is touching, the way Prince sang about his beliefs in a clear way, without elaborate metaphor. It's one of his most heartfelt lyrics, and some of his most direct, emotional singing.
You are on the right side of history cool

Of your opinion... smile

Listened again a couple of minutes ago... can't get those minutes back. But again, whatever peanutbutter's your jelly.

Holy River is a no no for me.

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Reply #49 posted 08/18/21 5:19pm

wilmer

Crown jewel: The Love We Make
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Reply #50 posted 08/19/21 12:40am

lovitzj

TrivialPursuit said:

I've seen seeing this floating around the last few days. And everyone has an opinion.

But "Joint 2 Joint" is not the crown jewel of Emancipation. While I don't think there's that one song that sticks out, I do think something like "The Love We Make" is superior to most of the 35 other tracks.

When Prince said he really emptied out on this album, it shows on "Joint 2 Joint." It's a mess in some ways, but it's listenable. It's not horrible by far, not a stinker. But the tap dancing, the rapping, etc. It just goes on and on.

It's one of those songs that feels like it was extended merely for the sake of each disk being 60 minutes (which people seemed to like, but forgot a disk holds 80 minutes of music, so over three disks, you could've had another hour of music).

Anyway, there are a lot of tag endings on songs to extend them. I don't know where J2J's basis ends and the extension begins. It's kinda like the junk drawer in your kitchen. Not worthless, has stuff you can use, but it's mostly a jungle if you ever try to delve in there and find something you need.



Agreed with trivial pursuit
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Reply #51 posted 08/19/21 12:40am

lovitzj

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Holy River and The Love We Make are pretty special songs.


Agreed
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Reply #52 posted 08/19/21 12:42am

lovitzj

Holy river
Love we make
Soul sanctuary is close contender but
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Reply #53 posted 08/20/21 6:00pm

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SantanaMaitreya said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

savion glover's tap performance/solo is the highlight of the song, which already has many highs.

it's not a 10, no. but I've listened to it very very often. love almost everything about it.



Highlight? Low point! It's by far the most annoying part of the whole record. Tap dancing on a CD, how stupid is that. That's something you need to watch, not listen to. It's like listening to a tennis match without seeing it; totally pointless. What was he thinking? The song is too good to be ruined by the silly tap dance, but would have been better without it. I want to hear music, not sound effects.
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Tap dancing is arguably still music, it’s percussion, clearly not for everyone.
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Reply #54 posted 08/20/21 6:10pm

runningbear

My Computer deserves attention too

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Reply #55 posted 08/21/21 1:15pm

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nosajd said:

SantanaMaitreya said:


Highlight? Low point! It's by far the most annoying part of the whole record. Tap dancing on a CD, how stupid is that. That's something you need to watch, not listen to. It's like listening to a tennis match without seeing it; totally pointless. What was he thinking? The song is too good to be ruined by the silly tap dance, but would have been better without it. I want to hear music, not sound effects.
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Tap dancing is arguably still music, it’s percussion, clearly not for everyone.

So how many tap dance albums do you own?
Seriously: any sound can be turned into music. There's an old tv clip of Frank Zappa where the interviewer asks him: for how long have you been playing the bicycle? And whaddaya know, he managed to get some musical sounds out of a bicycle! It's a gimmick of course and funny on tv, but not on record.
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If you take any of this seriously, you're a bigger fool than I am.
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Reply #56 posted 08/24/21 6:17am

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runningbear said:

It's very close, in my opinion, the track next to it the Holy River is by far the most excellent track on Emancipation. I do enjoy Joint to Joint though, and Disc 2 I like the best of the 3

I could not agree more, and was about to post about that song, until I had seen your post!

Holy River is beautifully recorded, the musicianship is outstanding and the song is sublimely beautiful and perfect.

Workin' my body... workin' my body... workin' my bod-ehh...
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