Sly Stone said Prince wants to be collard greens but always ends up being spinach. I totally don't agree with that. Prince had a lot of funky moments. Sly was probably high when he said it

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Prince wasnt always funky. Lot of the time in concert he just slapped on funk rhythm guitar onto everything unnecessarily But it was more just that there was a funkiness in a lot of his songs And in the 80s funk as a genre was still there As funk itself died out, ie bands like zapp, cameo etc, it's no wonder prince got less funky Prince jiet hot older thiyfyr, his uptempo songs stopped being good after a certain point Maybe around 86

Ridiculous. To say things like "Cream," "Now," "Endorphinmachine," "The Exodus Has Begun," "Come," "Pheromone," "Race," "I Wanna Melt With U," or a plethora of other songs "stopped being good," is either obtuse or just trolling.

TrivialPursuit said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Prince wasnt always funky. Lot of the time in concert he just slapped on funk rhythm guitar onto everything unnecessarily But it was more just that there was a funkiness in a lot of his songs And in the 80s funk as a genre was still there As funk itself died out, ie bands like zapp, cameo etc, it's no wonder prince got less funky Prince jiet hot older thiyfyr, his uptempo songs stopped being good after a certain point Maybe around 86

Ridiculous. To say things like "Cream," "Now," "Endorphinmachine," "The Exodus Has Begun," "Come," "Pheromone," "Race," "I Wanna Melt With U," or a plethora of other songs "stopped being good," is either obtuse or just trolling.

i made a typo.

i meant 96, not 86.

if you want to argue that he was still cranking out more uptempo songs as good as cream, gett off, interactive after 96, have at it!

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Hes in his 50s How funky do you want him to be? Even prince is allowed to mellow out

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George Clinton stayed funky !

Bootsy stayed funky!

Hell even funk stayed funky.

And so are some youngsters today.

I thought funk was up and running again for a serious pop revival.

Anderson .Paak, Bruno Mars, etc.

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God this is a weird thread.

Prince was only supposed to make funk(y) music, no other genres.

Prince stopped making funky music in the 90s/once he was in his 50s (take your pick)

The album Welcome 2 America in not funky (enough)

The funk genre died after 1980s

Housequake and Musicology were the last funk(y) tracks that Prince made.

Music isn't funky if it doesn't chart highly.

I'll just add:

Prince was an alien from the planet Blargon, who slept with Hitler's hamster and is currently living in a neon dream caravan in a diamond forest on Mars, where funk has been outlawed for the past 850,000,000 years, due to its water-destroying qualities.

You guys are out there like fucking Pluto, man. Seriously.

Trolls R Us must be totally out of stock for the forseeable.

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I remember listening to one of the Earth tour shows and they were doing All the Critics Love U (in London) and Morris Hayes was doing a Stevie Wonder(Higher Ground) sound on the keyboards and Prince started saying to the crowd 'Isn't that funky, funky is he funky' etc and I thought oh boy, it's not really funky if you gotta talk about it like that lol my mind went to the song Grace lol

Rimshottbob said:

God this is a weird thread.

Prince was only supposed to make funk(y) music, no other genres.

Prince stopped making funky music in the 90s/once he was in his 50s (take your pick)

The album Welcome 2 America in not funky (enough)

The funk genre died after 1980s

Housequake and Musicology were the last funk(y) tracks that Prince made.

Music isn't funky if it doesn't chart highly.

I'll just add:

Prince was an alien from the planet Blargon, who slept with Hitler's hamster and is currently living in a neon dream caravan in a diamond forest on Mars, where funk has been outlawed for the past 850,000,000 years, due to its water-destroying qualities.

You guys are out there like fucking Pluto, man. Seriously.

Trolls R Us must be totally out of stock for the forseeable.

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Exactly.

Trolls and Karen's all over the place

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Listen to the w2a live show. Prince was still funky.

yeah playing THE TIME and EARLY prince stuff.....nothin NEW AND FUNKY

Now you know how those old bitties on the Wendy's commercial felt!

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

i made a typo.

i meant 96, not 86.

if you want to argue that he was still cranking out more uptempo songs as good as cream, gett off, interactive after 96, have at it!

Well 96 is an entirely different conversation. I'd have to say, the consistency of quality varied greatly after his emancipation from Warner Bros.

But I've long, long said that Prince's greatest muse was conflict. When he had something to debate or fight about, something he was angsty or even angry about, is when he made his best music. Him lashing out at Warner, or a girlfriend, or post-Purple Rain detractors, that's when he made perfect music.

When he got free, his conflict was minimal. And while I wanted ol' boy to be happy, happy on record got boring as hell. He got dogmatic, and sorta had a hypocritical flair to his lyrics. If you go through the 80s and early 90s, there was barely a stinker on an album. After that, there was more than the occasional smattering of trash. (Yeah, I said it.) Not everything, but enough that the album as a whole package suffered.

So no, his up tempo output after 1996 wasn't nearly as great as even stuff in 1995.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Honestly prince was never just a funk artist And really, neither was James brown even Or Clinton for that matter Truth be told, funk is a style, not a genre And prince more than most artists, had a lot of other stuff in there. [Edited 8/5/21 9:18am]

true, he was never a funk artist. That is why so many of us call it purple music, it was a mix of funk rock folk rnb and pop and whatever else he want to add to the mix ie classical inspirational/gospel, jazz etc

Cinny said:

TrivialPursuit said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

i made a typo.

i meant 96, not 86.

if you want to argue that he was still cranking out more uptempo songs as good as cream, gett off, interactive after 96, have at it!

Well 96 is an entirely different conversation. I'd have to say, the consistency of quality varied greatly after his emancipation from Warner Bros.

But I've long, long said that Prince's greatest muse was conflict. When he had something to debate or fight about, something he was angsty or even angry about, is when he made his best music. Him lashing out at Warner, or a girlfriend, or post-Purple Rain detractors, that's when he made perfect music.

When he got free, his conflict was minimal. And while I wanted ol' boy to be happy, happy on record got boring as hell. He got dogmatic, and sorta had a hypocritical flair to his lyrics. If you go through the 80s and early 90s, there was barely a stinker on an album. After that, there was more than the occasional smattering of trash. (Yeah, I said it.) Not everything, but enough that the album as a whole package suffered.

So no, his up tempo output after 1996 wasn't nearly as great as even stuff in 1995.

i agree with most of that, but idk if it was anger per se; passion for sure, but i dont get an angry vibe from most prince music; he said himself he likes to write from joy (but sure, there are a handful of songs where he was writing from anger or betrayal etc)

i think he just needed an authority figure/body to go against, or feel like he had to fight them

if you think about his need for control, he was just used to trying to fight for it, or imagining he had to always fight for it

take WB out of the equation, and youre left with no one for prince to feel is trying to stop him being prince

but in terms of uptempo songs, i think its just what happens to most artists; after a while you lose touch with that side of your music, as things move on. ballads, slow songs, those tend to be more timeless. though tbh, i feel like princes seduction/sex ballads started to get rote and boring after 96 too. it just became shtick. he still did good songs, just not the ones where he was trying to recreate do me baby or insatiable etc.

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Geez, some serious negative Nancies on here.

Is the title track not funky for you? It sounds a lot like P-Funk (Wants To Get Funked Up) to me.

Rimshottbob said:

Prince was an alien from the planet Blargon, who slept with Hitler's hamster and is currently living in a neon dream caravan in a diamond forest on Mars, where funk has been outlawed for the past 850,000,000 years, due to its water-destroying qualities.

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From what I heard he is a now a DJ on a mainstream radiostation called MarsianDikeRadio in Jüüqfroat-Aouwah, 1500 miles right up north from The Diamond Forest.

Obviously, funk is not alowed to be played on the radio, due to the water-destroying effect.

He only spins earthly Estonian folkmusic and puprle grass music from Jemen and nasal shouts from low-Cashmere.

You can recognize that little motherfucker with the high voice, low-pitched as to not sound too funky. You can listen to his morning shows between 5 and 7AM on MARS-IICNTPOYMars779311 local Up-MARS station.

For those who are interested only.

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NouveauDance said:

Is the title track not funky for you? It sounds a lot like P-Funk (Wants To Get Funked Up) to me.

but not nearly as good.

i just pretend the album starts at track number 2.

check the record is funky.

funkman88 said:

dodger said:

TrivialPursuit said: YES MF YES

stale funk...no hits on that

Thats how I always felt. Kinda bland.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Well 96 is an entirely different conversation. I'd have to say, the consistency of quality varied greatly after his emancipation from Warner Bros.

But I've long, long said that Prince's greatest muse was conflict. When he had something to debate or fight about, something he was angsty or even angry about, is when he made his best music. Him lashing out at Warner, or a girlfriend, or post-Purple Rain detractors, that's when he made perfect music.

When he got free, his conflict was minimal. And while I wanted ol' boy to be happy, happy on record got boring as hell. He got dogmatic, and sorta had a hypocritical flair to his lyrics. If you go through the 80s and early 90s, there was barely a stinker on an album. After that, there was more than the occasional smattering of trash. (Yeah, I said it.) Not everything, but enough that the album as a whole package suffered.

So no, his up tempo output after 1996 wasn't nearly as great as even stuff in 1995.

i agree with most of that, but idk if it was anger per se; passion for sure, but i dont get an angry vibe from most prince music; he said himself he likes to write from joy (but sure, there are a handful of songs where he was writing from anger or betrayal etc)

i think he just needed an authority figure/body to go against, or feel like he had to fight them

if you think about his need for control, he was just used to trying to fight for it, or imagining he had to always fight for it

take WB out of the equation, and youre left with no one for prince to feel is trying to stop him being prince

but in terms of uptempo songs, i think its just what happens to most artists; after a while you lose touch with that side of your music, as things move on. ballads, slow songs, those tend to be more timeless. though tbh, i feel like princes seduction/sex ballads started to get rote and boring after 96 too. it just became shtick. he still did good songs, just not the ones where he was trying to recreate do me baby or insatiable etc.

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Wrong. The reason that ballads tend to be the main songs by artists to become classics, is because since the mid 1990s, especially on R&B radio, the majority of the new stuff that was being made by R&B artists that got radio airplay was slow to midtempo stuff. It got so bad that when they would play an old song, they would only play a ballad because an uptempo song in the middle of their snoozefest would stick out like a sore thumb. There is an entire generation now that thinks The Isley Brothers only made slow jams and if you play one of their funk songs, they say..... "Ewwww, what's that rock shit?". The 1990s is the decade when things became assbackwards and never changed back. Before that, the majority of stuff on the radio per hour, was uptempo stuff with a few slow jams here and there. Beginning in the mid 1990s, you were lucky to hear even one uptempo song per hour. Talk about assbackwards. But let them tell it..... "Oh, you're just getting old."..... Uh no, honey, old people are the ones who listen to nothing but slow music. The younger generation just became senior citizens decades before their time. It eventually spills over to when an older artist makes a new album, they make it full of snoozefest slow to midtempo songs. It's not because they've gotten older, it's because they are train to get sales from a younger generation who has the taste of senior citizens. I'm telling ya, classical music and opera is faster and funkier than this foolishness that is called R&B these days.

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vainandy said:

Wrong. The reason that ballads tend to be the main songs by artists to become classics, is because since the mid 1990s, especially on R&B radio, the majority of the new stuff that was being made by R&B artists that got radio airplay was slow to midtempo stuff. It got so bad that when they would play an old song, they would only play a ballad because an uptempo song in the middle of their snoozefest would stick out like a sore thumb. There is an entire generation now that thinks The Isley Brothers only made slow jams and if you play one of their funk songs, they say..... "Ewwww, what's that rock shit?". The 1990s is the decade when things became assbackwards and never changed back. Before that, the majority of stuff on the radio per hour, was uptempo stuff with a few slow jams here and there. Beginning in the mid 1990s, you were lucky to hear even one uptempo song per hour. Talk about assbackwards. But let them tell it..... "Oh, you're just getting old."..... Uh no, honey, old people are the ones who listen to nothing but slow music. The younger generation just became senior citizens decades before their time. It eventually spills over to when an older artist makes a new album, they make it full of snoozefest slow to midtempo songs. It's not because they've gotten older, it's because they are train to get sales from a younger generation who has the taste of senior citizens. I'm telling ya, classical music and opera is faster and funkier than this foolishness that is called R&B these days.

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It's amazing how you can write a post and have every single word of it be total nonsense.

paisleypark4 said: