Seriously. Prince used double entendre to hide behind dirty lyrics during his JW era. But this song is just blatant. Talking about going down on a girl and her coming.

Was this OK'd by the local Elders of the Chanhassen congregation? Or was he admitting he did the tongue twister on A. Allo?

LOL Prince ain't running his music by any goddamn elders.

And did you forget "Elixer," aka "he licks her?"

OperatingThetan said:

Prince completely changed the lyrics when he did release 'When She Comes' in 2015, so I think he knew it wouldn't be approved in its original form. That he chose to express those sentiments in 2010 might be indicative of something and there are plenty of other lyrics peppering the album that appear to reference a crisis of faith and are at odds with JW doctrine. But then again Prince was never a standard 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witness. Even on The Rainbow Children, which was considered his big conversion album, there were references to sex toys and female climax on 'Mellow' along with allusions to the Akashic Records and reincarnation, all big no-nos for JWs.

Definitely. And I think this album was also way too political to be released by a JW.

MJ got disfellowshipped for Thriller.

He did Valentina where he told a lady's young daughter he wanted to bang her moms.

Is it really shocking that Prince was wildly hypocritical in his private life?
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How about the numerous songs where he basically talks about hiring a young woman for sex? The One U Wanna C, The Morning After, $. Sex parties with The Daisy Chain, 3121 and Ol' Skool Company. Fucking somebody in a movie theater, Sticky Like Glue. Groovy Potential and Stare is you want something after Welcome 2 America was shelved.

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The songs were true. He probably presenting them as if they were fiction. And as long as he kept the money tap flowing, it'd be more of a hassle for the Watchtower to kick him out than leave him in.

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Plenty of sexual lyrics on the Rainbow Children.

2freaky4church1 said:

He did Valentina where he told a lady's young daughter he wanted to bang her moms.

Yea, that was for Salma Hayek, and her newborn at the time, Valentina.

OperatingThetan said:

Prince completely changed the lyrics when he did release 'When She Comes' in 2015, so I think he knew it wouldn't be approved in its original form. That he chose to express those sentiments in 2010 might be indicative of something and there are plenty of other lyrics peppering the album that appear to reference a crisis of faith and are at odds with JW doctrine. But then again Prince was never a standard 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witness. Even on The Rainbow Children, which was considered his big conversion album, there were references to sex toys and female climax on 'Mellow' along with allusions to the Akashic Records and reincarnation, all big no-nos for JWs.

There's a few lyrics on the W2A album that, to me, seem to indicate some doubts about the JW doctrine and religion overall. Even on 20Ten, the lyrics to ACT OF GOD are about Humanity being in control of its destiny and not to rely on religion.

I wonder how this lines up with the story of him going to the JW headquarters in NYC because he had some concerns about certain doctrines. Was it around this time? The story goes that he didn't leave with any satisfactory answers to his inquiries.

Musze said:

There's a few lyrics on the W2A album that, to me, seem to indicate some doubts about the JW doctrine and religion overall. Even on 20Ten, the lyrics to ACT OF GOD are about Humanity being in control of its destiny and not to rely on religion.

I wonder how this lines up with the story of him going to the JW headquarters in NYC because he had some concerns about certain doctrines. Was it around this time? The story goes that he didn't leave with any satisfactory answers to his inquiries.

Where can I read more about this story? It sounds interesting.

Musze said:

cblu said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

Musze said:

There's a few lyrics on the W2A album that, to me, seem to indicate some doubts about the JW doctrine and religion overall. Even on 20Ten, the lyrics to ACT OF GOD are about Humanity being in control of its destiny and not to rely on religion.

I wonder how this lines up with the story of him going to the JW headquarters in NYC because he had some concerns about certain doctrines. Was it around this time? The story goes that he didn't leave with any satisfactory answers to his inquiries.

He went to the HQ around 2011 after his hip surgery and possibly around the time of his overdose that year, as he needed more work done and wanted their explanation of a lot of their dogma. There are lyrics in "Dreamer" that also vaguely refer to the beginning of his falling away from the doctrine. "Future Soul Song" as well. [Edited 7/28/21 10:54am]

Thank you. This is the visit I was referring to.

20Ten is littered with references that give us a peak into his state of mind/heart at this time:

"Everybody can win,

with a little faith in man."

"Why should you be satisfied
With just heaven and earth?
When you look around
There's so much more to the universe."

"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same
Everybody's god got a different name
The day that it's over is the end of the game
And they call it an act of God."

(Damned formatting won't let me enter spaces appropriately)

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If you're quoting lyrics.

"Come take me to an assembly in New York
To speak of the brand new everlasting wonder war
To win or lose is so absurd
And the only casualties the word
The word"

October 3, 2009 was the JW annual meeting where they unveiled a new song book. The JW headquarters is in New York.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol...-e/2010446

Strive said:

If you're quoting lyrics.

"Come take me to an assembly in New York
To speak of the brand new everlasting wonder war
To win or lose is so absurd
And the only casualties the word
The word"

October 3, 2009 was the JW annual meeting where they unveiled a new song book. The JW headquarters is in New York.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol...-e/2010446

I quickly grazed over that link. But two things stuck out.

1) "Later, members of the other sheep class were appointed as helpers." - talk about classism. Gross.

2) The term "the righteous one" is in there. Odd that it's in "Computer Blue," (which is a song about flesh vs spirit struggles), but it also evokes The Rainbow Children vibes.

Good to see there's still some implied swearing going on:

"Her ish doesn't stink."

YES, we all know what you mean, Prince.

At least this time he didn't say "her stuff ain't brown 2 nite."

cblu said:

OperatingThetan said:

Prince completely changed the lyrics when he did release 'When She Comes' in 2015, so I think he knew it wouldn't be approved in its original form. That he chose to express those sentiments in 2010 might be indicative of something and there are plenty of other lyrics peppering the album that appear to reference a crisis of faith and are at odds with JW doctrine. But then again Prince was never a standard 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witness. Even on The Rainbow Children, which was considered his big conversion album, there were references to sex toys and female climax on 'Mellow' along with allusions to the Akashic Records and reincarnation, all big no-nos for JWs.

Definitely. And I think this album was also way too political to be released by a JW.

MJ got disfellowshipped for Thriller.

No he didn't. He was worried they might, so he put the disclaimer at the beginning of the video. He left himself in the Bad era around the time he bought Neverland. Years later.