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Thread started 07/27/21 4:45pm

cblu

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If P was a devout JW in 2010 who was When She Comes about?

Seriously. Prince used double entendre to hide behind dirty lyrics during his JW era. But this song is just blatant. Talking about going down on a girl and her coming.

Was this OK'd by the local Elders of the Chanhassen congregation? Or was he admitting he did the tongue twister on A. Allo?

Until I find the righteous one...
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Reply #1 posted 07/27/21 4:54pm

TrivialPursuit

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LOL Prince ain't running his music by any goddamn elders.

And did you forget "Elixer," aka "he licks her?"

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #2 posted 07/27/21 5:07pm

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Prince completely changed the lyrics when he did release 'When She Comes' in 2015, so I think he knew it wouldn't be approved in its original form.

That he chose to express those sentiments in 2010 might be indicative of something and there are plenty of other lyrics peppering the album that appear to reference a crisis of faith and are at odds with JW doctrine. But then again Prince was never a standard 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witness. Even on The Rainbow Children, which was considered his big conversion album, there were references to sex toys and female climax on 'Mellow' along with allusions to the Akashic Records and reincarnation, all big no-nos for JWs.
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Reply #3 posted 07/27/21 5:45pm

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OperatingThetan said:

Prince completely changed the lyrics when he did release 'When She Comes' in 2015, so I think he knew it wouldn't be approved in its original form. That he chose to express those sentiments in 2010 might be indicative of something and there are plenty of other lyrics peppering the album that appear to reference a crisis of faith and are at odds with JW doctrine. But then again Prince was never a standard 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witness. Even on The Rainbow Children, which was considered his big conversion album, there were references to sex toys and female climax on 'Mellow' along with allusions to the Akashic Records and reincarnation, all big no-nos for JWs.

Definitely. And I think this album was also way too political to be released by a JW.

MJ got disfellowshipped for Thriller.

Until I find the righteous one...
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Reply #4 posted 07/27/21 5:50pm

jfenster

What's wrong with erotic love?
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Reply #5 posted 07/27/21 5:53pm

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He did Valentina where he told a lady's young daughter he wanted to bang her moms.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #6 posted 07/27/21 6:13pm

Strive

Is it really shocking that Prince was wildly hypocritical in his private life?
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How about the numerous songs where he basically talks about hiring a young woman for sex? The One U Wanna C, The Morning After, $. Sex parties with The Daisy Chain, 3121 and Ol' Skool Company. Fucking somebody in a movie theater, Sticky Like Glue. Groovy Potential and Stare is you want something after Welcome 2 America was shelved.

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The songs were true. He probably presenting them as if they were fiction. And as long as he kept the money tap flowing, it'd be more of a hassle for the Watchtower to kick him out than leave him in.

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Reply #7 posted 07/27/21 6:20pm

jdcxc

Plenty of sexual lyrics on the Rainbow Children.

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Reply #8 posted 07/27/21 8:12pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

He did Valentina where he told a lady's young daughter he wanted to bang her moms.

Yea, that was for Salma Hayek, and her newborn at the time, Valentina.

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Reply #9 posted 07/28/21 7:57am

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OperatingThetan said:

Prince completely changed the lyrics when he did release 'When She Comes' in 2015, so I think he knew it wouldn't be approved in its original form. That he chose to express those sentiments in 2010 might be indicative of something and there are plenty of other lyrics peppering the album that appear to reference a crisis of faith and are at odds with JW doctrine. But then again Prince was never a standard 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witness. Even on The Rainbow Children, which was considered his big conversion album, there were references to sex toys and female climax on 'Mellow' along with allusions to the Akashic Records and reincarnation, all big no-nos for JWs.

There's a few lyrics on the W2A album that, to me, seem to indicate some doubts about the JW doctrine and religion overall. Even on 20Ten, the lyrics to ACT OF GOD are about Humanity being in control of its destiny and not to rely on religion.

I wonder how this lines up with the story of him going to the JW headquarters in NYC because he had some concerns about certain doctrines. Was it around this time? The story goes that he didn't leave with any satisfactory answers to his inquiries.

I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore...
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Reply #10 posted 07/28/21 10:43am

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Musze said:

There's a few lyrics on the W2A album that, to me, seem to indicate some doubts about the JW doctrine and religion overall. Even on 20Ten, the lyrics to ACT OF GOD are about Humanity being in control of its destiny and not to rely on religion.

I wonder how this lines up with the story of him going to the JW headquarters in NYC because he had some concerns about certain doctrines. Was it around this time? The story goes that he didn't leave with any satisfactory answers to his inquiries.

Where can I read more about this story? It sounds interesting.

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Reply #11 posted 07/28/21 10:45am

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Musze said:



OperatingThetan said:


Prince completely changed the lyrics when he did release 'When She Comes' in 2015, so I think he knew it wouldn't be approved in its original form. That he chose to express those sentiments in 2010 might be indicative of something and there are plenty of other lyrics peppering the album that appear to reference a crisis of faith and are at odds with JW doctrine. But then again Prince was never a standard 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witness. Even on The Rainbow Children, which was considered his big conversion album, there were references to sex toys and female climax on 'Mellow' along with allusions to the Akashic Records and reincarnation, all big no-nos for JWs.


There's a few lyrics on the W2A album that, to me, seem to indicate some doubts about the JW doctrine and religion overall. Even on 20Ten, the lyrics to ACT OF GOD are about Humanity being in control of its destiny and not to rely on religion.



I wonder how this lines up with the story of him going to the JW headquarters in NYC because he had some concerns about certain doctrines. Was it around this time? The story goes that he didn't leave with any satisfactory answers to his inquiries.


He went to the HQ around 2011 after his hip surgery and possibly around the time of his overdose that year, as he needed more work done and wanted their explanation of a lot of their dogma. There are lyrics in "Dreamer" that also vaguely refer to the beginning of his falling away from the doctrine. "Future Soul Song" as well.
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Reply #12 posted 07/28/21 1:08pm

LoveGalore

Prince was probably upset considering they turned down his fonky baldheaded ass when he offered them that album of hymns.
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Reply #13 posted 07/28/21 1:37pm

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Reply #14 posted 07/28/21 2:13pm

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cblu said:



OperatingThetan said:


Prince completely changed the lyrics when he did release 'When She Comes' in 2015, so I think he knew it wouldn't be approved in its original form. That he chose to express those sentiments in 2010 might be indicative of something and there are plenty of other lyrics peppering the album that appear to reference a crisis of faith and are at odds with JW doctrine. But then again Prince was never a standard 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witness. Even on The Rainbow Children, which was considered his big conversion album, there were references to sex toys and female climax on 'Mellow' along with allusions to the Akashic Records and reincarnation, all big no-nos for JWs.


Definitely. And I think this album was also way too political to be released by a JW.



MJ got disfellowshipped for Thriller.



Whoa I didn’t even know that

Good thing Michael didn’t NEED the Kingdom Hall community, he had the WORLD! also one of his later producers (Darkchild, the guy who produced MJ’s last number one) claimed he gave his life to Christ 2 weeks before he passed… so he up there, I’m sure
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Reply #15 posted 07/28/21 3:19pm

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TrcikyChristopher said:

Musze said:

There's a few lyrics on the W2A album that, to me, seem to indicate some doubts about the JW doctrine and religion overall. Even on 20Ten, the lyrics to ACT OF GOD are about Humanity being in control of its destiny and not to rely on religion.

I wonder how this lines up with the story of him going to the JW headquarters in NYC because he had some concerns about certain doctrines. Was it around this time? The story goes that he didn't leave with any satisfactory answers to his inquiries.

He went to the HQ around 2011 after his hip surgery and possibly around the time of his overdose that year, as he needed more work done and wanted their explanation of a lot of their dogma. There are lyrics in "Dreamer" that also vaguely refer to the beginning of his falling away from the doctrine. "Future Soul Song" as well. [Edited 7/28/21 10:54am]

Thank you. This is the visit I was referring to.

20Ten is littered with references that give us a peak into his state of mind/heart at this time:

"Everybody can win,

with a little faith in man."

"Why should you be satisfied
With just heaven and earth?
When you look around
There's so much more to the universe."

"Funny how nobody's holy books are the same
Everybody's god got a different name
The day that it's over is the end of the game
And they call it an act of God."

(Damned formatting won't let me enter spaces appropriately)

[Edited 7/28/21 15:19pm]

[Edited 7/28/21 15:20pm]

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Reply #16 posted 07/29/21 5:08am

RODSERLING

About Carmen Electra.
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Reply #17 posted 07/29/21 8:16am

Strive

If you're quoting lyrics.


"Come take me to an assembly in New York
To speak of the brand new everlasting wonder war
To win or lose is so absurd
And the only casualties the word
The word"

October 3, 2009 was the JW annual meeting where they unveiled a new song book. The JW headquarters is in New York.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol...-e/2010446

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Reply #18 posted 07/29/21 1:05pm

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Strive said:

If you're quoting lyrics.


"Come take me to an assembly in New York
To speak of the brand new everlasting wonder war
To win or lose is so absurd
And the only casualties the word
The word"

October 3, 2009 was the JW annual meeting where they unveiled a new song book. The JW headquarters is in New York.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol...-e/2010446


I quickly grazed over that link. But two things stuck out.

1) "Later, members of the other sheep class were appointed as helpers." - talk about classism. Gross.

2) The term "the righteous one" is in there. Odd that it's in "Computer Blue," (which is a song about flesh vs spirit struggles), but it also evokes The Rainbow Children vibes.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #19 posted 07/29/21 10:30pm

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Uh… I think the song is about Bria Valente, you know um..don’t make me say it now
1 over Jordan...the greatest since
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Reply #20 posted 07/30/21 12:32am

anc282

Good to see there's still some implied swearing going on:

"Her ish doesn't stink."

YES, we all know what you mean, Prince. lol

At least this time he didn't say "her stuff ain't brown 2 nite." disbelief

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Reply #21 posted 07/30/21 5:57am

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cblu said:

OperatingThetan said:

Prince completely changed the lyrics when he did release 'When She Comes' in 2015, so I think he knew it wouldn't be approved in its original form. That he chose to express those sentiments in 2010 might be indicative of something and there are plenty of other lyrics peppering the album that appear to reference a crisis of faith and are at odds with JW doctrine. But then again Prince was never a standard 'rank and file' Jehovah's Witness. Even on The Rainbow Children, which was considered his big conversion album, there were references to sex toys and female climax on 'Mellow' along with allusions to the Akashic Records and reincarnation, all big no-nos for JWs.

Definitely. And I think this album was also way too political to be released by a JW.

MJ got disfellowshipped for Thriller.

No he didn't. He was worried they might, so he put the disclaimer at the beginning of the video. He left himself in the Bad era around the time he bought Neverland. Years later.

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