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Reply #30 posted 07/24/21 1:05am

funkbabyandthe
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Just to say I love the 85 and 86 albums, I just wonder what would have happened if prince kept that vibe a little longer.
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Reply #31 posted 07/24/21 1:09am

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TrivialPursuit said:



lurker316 said:



I hate the song gold. The music itself is too blatent of an attempt to rip off the anthemic feel of the song Purple Rain. And the lyrics?!?!?! "All that glitters... ain't gold!" So trite and cliched. I'm too embarassed by this song to play it for friends.




And "The Ladder" wasn't all those things? or "The Cross" "Anna Stasia" "Live 4 Love" "I Wish U Heaven" "Free."


Theres alison rehearsal of the ladder from 88that makes the song so much better
And yes it is still better than gold lol
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Reply #32 posted 07/24/21 2:24am

SPOOKYGAS

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No, EYE wish there had been a Sign O the Times mark 2, in my opinion his best work.

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Reply #33 posted 07/24/21 4:29am

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TrivialPursuit said:

lurker316 said:


I hate the song gold. The music itself is too blatent of an attempt to rip off the anthemic feel of the song Purple Rain. And the lyrics?!?!?! "All that glitters... ain't gold!" So trite and cliched. I'm too embarassed by this song to play it for friends.


And "The Ladder" wasn't all those things? or "The Cross" "Anna Stasia" "Live 4 Love" "I Wish U Heaven" "Free."



The Ladder, perhaps. Same for Free. The other songs you cited, no. At least not to the same degree.

I really don't see what you mean with respect to I Wish U Heaven? I assume you're refering simply to the lyric, because the music is not anthemic at all. And I never hear anyone say "I wish you heaven," so I don't see that as a cliche.


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Reply #34 posted 07/24/21 4:34am

funkbabyandthe
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prince actually did a big anthemic song like PR better than PR 12 years later when he did the love we make.

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Reply #35 posted 07/24/21 6:03am

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SPOOKYGAS said:

No, EYE wish there had been a Sign O the Times mark 2, in my opinion his best work.



Agreed. His very finest and a gold mine of material from the period.
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Reply #36 posted 07/24/21 5:53pm

OldFriends4Sal
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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I just don't see the Gold Exerience as even in Purple Rain's stratospher

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There was music he had that was like Purple Rain but not, enough that it could have followed and not be a PR pt II

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fyi I adore Around the World in a Day

I always wonder if America opened up the album or Paisley Park with the extended version opening, if people would have heard the album differently

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Our Destiny

Dance Electric

We Can Fuck

Love & Sex

Lust U Always

Traffic Jam

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what else could go onto this from that period and work?

I haven't put them in any order of flow yet

id prob opt for a mix of these 83/84 unreleased songs

Cant Stop This Feeling I Got

Manic Monday

Nothing Compares 2 u

extra loveable (edited from 7mins)

we can fuck (edited down)

No Call U

Vagina

katrinas paper dolls

Electric Intercourse

If Itll Make U Happy

moonbeam levels

still not as good as PR though. his internal editor and compiler was obviously working perfectly at that time.

Moonbeam Levels and Manic Monday would be perfect

Our Destiny

Roadhouse Garden

Manic Monday

Dance Electric

Moonbeam Levels

We Can Fuck

Love & Sex

Lust U Always

Traffic Jam

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Old Friends 4 Sale

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Reply #37 posted 07/24/21 6:54pm

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I cringe when p controll comes on and skip it all the time.
There is nothing comparable to PR right now.
It's an iconic lp and I listen to it all the time.
This year was big in my life for many reasons and this lp takes me back all the time.
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First I need a picture of your mother, to verify the fact that there's not another one in the universe so supreme!!"
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Reply #38 posted 07/24/21 7:22pm

alphastreet

All his albums that I do have are unique as they are
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Reply #39 posted 07/24/21 10:58pm

CAL3

lurker316 said:


I hate the song gold. The music itself is too blatent of an attempt to rip off the anthemic feel of the song Purple Rain. And the lyrics?!?!?! "All that glitters... ain't gold!" So trite and cliched. I'm too embarassed by this song to play it for friends.





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You said a mouthful. Took the words right out of my mouth. “Gold” is one of the cringiest things he ever had the nerve to release.
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I loved the album when it first came out - but right from the beginning the title track was the weakest thing on it, I felt.
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The album had aged remarkably poorly.
I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here.
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Reply #40 posted 07/24/21 11:01pm

CAL3

lurker316 said:



TrivialPursuit said:




lurker316 said:



I hate the song gold. The music itself is too blatent of an attempt to rip off the anthemic feel of the song Purple Rain. And the lyrics?!?!?! "All that glitters... ain't gold!" So trite and cliched. I'm too embarassed by this song to play it for friends.




And "The Ladder" wasn't all those things? or "The Cross" "Anna Stasia" "Live 4 Love" "I Wish U Heaven" "Free."





The Ladder, perhaps. Same for Free. The other songs you cited, no. At least not to the same degree.

I really don't see what you mean with respect to I Wish U Heaven? I assume you're refering simply to the lyric, because the music is not anthemic at all. And I never hear anyone say "I wish you heaven," so I don't see that as a cliche.



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Again, nailed it. Except I’d say even “The Ladder,” weakest track on Around the World by a country mile, is still way better and more interesting and more emotionally-enveloping than *shudder* “Gold.”
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Reply #41 posted 07/25/21 1:35am

Nuernberg72

TGE has nothing to do with Purple Rain. I'm really speechless how you can see parallels between the two albums.
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Reply #42 posted 07/25/21 6:01am

SPYZFAN1

I agree with SANSKER7 and Nuernberg72...."TGE" has no similarities (to me) with "PR". ..I never liked "P-Control" either .(One of the worst songs he's ever written..I always skipped over it too)..."PR" always takes me back to the fun year of 1984 (and "Princemania"), whereas "TGE" has "the 90's" written all over it....I think of BET Video Soul, VIBE Magazine, Mayte, P's battle with the WB label and the "Showgirls" movie when I hear songs from "TGE"....It's an OK album, but pales in comparison to "PR".

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Reply #43 posted 07/25/21 6:28am

Doalwa

People dissing TGE on this thread? What is this blasphemy?!?

TGE was my very first Prince album, it’ll always be my own personal Purple Rain!
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Reply #44 posted 07/25/21 6:59am

SoulAlive

Purple Rain and TGE are very “loud”,guitar-heavy albums.

the song “Gold” is a big,singalong rock anthem similiar to the song “Purple Rain”.

“Endorphinmachine” is the “Let’s Go Crazy” of this album.

“Eye Hate U” is “The Beautiful Ones ‘95”…starts off with a nice falsetto vocal and then it becomes louder and dramatic as it goes on.

“Shy” is a “Darling Nikki” for the 90s.
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Reply #45 posted 07/25/21 7:33am

SoulAlive

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

there is no way you can compare lets go crazy to pussy control.

shame he didnt start with endorphin machine.

for that, TGE will never be up there with purple rain.

the best songs on TGE (if he reduced the number of songs at least, it would have been better) -

interactive (i still think of it as being part of this album)

endorphin

shh

dolphin

319

shy

billy jack

eye hate u

gold

now i like these songs quite a lot (TMBGITW is good but its so adult-contemp/smooth radio FM) but they arent up there with those on PR.

One of the cool things about TGE is that there are so many excellent outtakes that we can play around with and create different tracklists."Interactive","Days Of Wild" and "Ripopgodazippa" are three songs that would have made the album even better,imo.

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Reply #46 posted 07/25/21 10:03am

CAL3

Doalwa said:

People dissing TGE on this thread? What is this blasphemy?!?

TGE was my very first Prince album, it’ll always be my own personal Purple Rain!

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Never ever trust anyone who declares an album their favorite simply because it was “the first album by (fill in the blank) they ever bought.”
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No reason on Earth could be less relevant to anyone other than the person making said declaration.
I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here.
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Reply #47 posted 07/25/21 7:57pm

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The Gold Experience is a great album.

At various times, it is my favorite Prince album.

Most of the time, P Control is my favorite song.

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Reply #48 posted 07/26/21 1:59am

funkbabyandthe
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cblu said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

id prob opt for a mix of these 83/84 unreleased songs

Cant Stop This Feeling I Got

Manic Monday

Nothing Compares 2 u

extra loveable (edited from 7mins)

we can fuck (edited down)

No Call U

Vagina

katrinas paper dolls

Electric Intercourse

If Itll Make U Happy

moonbeam levels

still not as good as PR though. his internal editor and compiler was obviously working perfectly at that time.

I firmly believe this tracklist would have been a legendary album. Maybe not how Purple Rain or Sgt. Pepper are regarded. But more as a Frank Zappa or Captain Beefheart record. Truly a combination of the bizzare yet beautiful.

thanks. i think id prob change it to:

cant stop this feeling i got, manic monday, electric intercourse, extra loveable, we can fuck, vagina. and then, no call u, katrinas paper dolls, if itll make you happy, nothing compares 2 u, moonbeam levels.

id include our destiny/roadhouse garden but idk i kind of see it as being more like the 85/86 era than the 83/84 era.

i only recently found out theres another version of katrinas paper dolls which is kind of cool to listen to. idk if its from a rehearsal or what but its trippier. its amazing how much stuff there is out there that i still havent heard.

relistening to these songs, it made me remember how weird prince could be lol. thats one thing i miss about what he did later. even just stuff like how he sings electric intercourse (compared to the live version which i knew first), the mid 80s was prob his best period for doing odd stuff. not hard to see though why he would never have released vagina, or we can fuck (until he changed the lyrics at least), but vagina should have been a b-side. its as strange and good as anything by bowie, the kinks, or lou reed as far as 'gender-bending' rock. now only a few people (relatively speaking) will know about the song.

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Reply #49 posted 07/26/21 12:27pm

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SoulAlive said:

yeah,I think TGE is the closest he came to doing another album like Purple Rain.It has sometimes been referred to as “the Purple Rain of the 90s”.


100% true for all the previously stated reasons. If you disagree then you are either not listening to the album closely enough or listening way too hard--like not seeing the forest for the trees.

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Reply #50 posted 07/26/21 12:32pm

OldFriends4Sal
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CAL3 said:

Doalwa said:
People dissing TGE on this thread? What is this blasphemy?!? TGE was my very first Prince album, it’ll always be my own personal Purple Rain!
. Never ever trust anyone who declares an album their favorite simply because it was “the first album by (fill in the blank) they ever bought.” . No reason on Earth could be less relevant to anyone other than the person making said declaration.

TrUtH!!

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Reply #51 posted 07/26/21 12:40pm

CynicKill

Maybe not another album like it but he definitely should've tried to outdo it.

I love what he put out but speaking from my non fanboy side it beats putting out movies no one wanted to see and albums that reduce your fanbase down to almost nothing in comparison.

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Reply #52 posted 07/26/21 2:01pm

TrivialPursuit

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toejam said:

Around The World In A Day is actually a lot closer to Purple Rain than is often acknowledged.


I know I'm responding again to his, but I wanted to add something.

ATWIAD is a lot more like PR than just the blueprint I mentioned. A lot of these songs were recorded during that same time. I remember being surprised that "Pop Life" was smack in the middle of the PR sessions (via Duane Tudahl's book). That's just one example. But I suppose it's why the blueprint of the song layout, and the types of songs are there.

ATWIAD isn't PR leftovers, but they're definitely from the same period and share the same exuberance. ATWIAD isn't all too different. The double vocals on "Pop Life" remind one of the reveb on "Let's Go Crazy"'s vocals. And although "Computer Blue" feels like a rock song, there's a very heavy bottom on it, like "Tamborine." The string segue on "The Ladder" reminds me of the added ending on "Darling Nikki," with the backwards stuff, and that reminds me of the (horrible) tag ending on "Temptation." "Condition of the Heart" almost comes across like a mini-suite of music, as does "Computer Blue."

So yeah. That.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #53 posted 07/26/21 3:50pm

herb4

Maybe one as consistent from begninning to end from a quality standpoint, but stylistically? No, not really. There's truly not a clunker on the whole record when you get right down to it.

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Reply #54 posted 08/03/21 6:14pm

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RODSERLING said:

ATWIAD is Purple Rain 2 to me.

can i have some of what u smokin?? eek

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Reply #55 posted 08/03/21 6:16pm

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toejam said:

Around The World In A Day is actually a lot closer to Purple Rain than is often acknowledged.

in months of release....what u smokin? eek

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Reply #56 posted 08/03/21 6:41pm

SoulAlive

ATWIAD has a few elements of Purple Rain,but it lacks the energy and the power of Purple Rain.Most of the songs are slower and less dynamic.
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Reply #57 posted 08/03/21 11:43pm

alphastreet

Nah, it’s unique. I like 1999 and around the world in day just as much if not more
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Reply #58 posted 08/04/21 9:08am

Prog5000

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A purple rain 2 would have been nice but that’s not Prince’s style.

TGE is mostly prince on auto pilot, quite a boring album and p control is hysterical, what was he thinking?
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Reply #59 posted 08/04/21 9:30am

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Prog5000 said:

A purple rain 2 would have been nice but that’s not Prince’s style.

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Indeed.

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TGE is mostly prince on auto pilot, quite a boring album and p control is hysterical, what was he thinking?

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The album was in the can for too long due to the label issues.

TGE as seeing Prince as on auto-pilot is a bit too harsh as TGE is a kick-arse album.

Perhaps quirky, or not the greatest but it has certain elements...

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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