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Thread started 08/10/21 1:20am

lovitzj

Possessed

Has anyone talked about how it's
Like 1999?
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Reply #1 posted 08/10/21 4:57am

LoveGalore

I mean, sure, he was doing those jams with fat synth hooks and catchy choruses at the time. But I don't really see the deep similarity to 1999.

I will say it's one of my top favs of the era and wish it was on the album.
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Reply #2 posted 08/10/21 10:00am

lovitzj

Dude it's the same exact track !!!
Okay the drum track is clearly a
sister of 1999
[Edited 8/10/21 21:43pm]
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Reply #3 posted 08/10/21 10:27am

jaawwnn

So what you're saying is it's Manic Monday?

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Reply #4 posted 08/10/21 11:31am

LoveGalore

I'm POSSESSED
Nineteen niiiiine-ty nine


Not exactly the same song. The choruses aren't even the same melody?
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Reply #5 posted 08/10/21 4:19pm

TrivialPursuit

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jaawwnn said:

So what you're saying is it's Manic Monday?


This was my thought. The melody for MM is straight from "1999."

Wait until the OP hears "Baby I'm A Star" and "America" back to back.

Or queues up "17 Days," "Toy Box," and "Blue Limosine." Head's gonna explode on that one.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #6 posted 08/10/21 4:59pm

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lovitzj said:

Dude it's the same exact track !!!



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Reply #7 posted 08/10/21 9:35pm

lovitzj

The drum track the groove is the same
Blueprint. Trust me I didn't just pull
This out of a hat. I mean go listen to
The 1999 deluxe. It's the same
I didn't come to throw out weird claims and start debates
I think it's pretty clear to any musician what I'm saying
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Reply #8 posted 08/10/21 9:39pm

lovitzj

Even the bass groove is the same
What happened probably was prince realized 1999
Much stronger theme for that groove
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Reply #9 posted 08/10/21 9:44pm

lovitzj

LoveGalore said:

I'm POSSESSED
Nineteen niiiiine-ty nine


Not exactly the same song. The choruses aren't even the same melody?

Very true I just truly believe he dropped
Possessed for 1999. That is the
Historical point I am trying to make
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Reply #10 posted 08/10/21 9:49pm

lovitzj

TrivialPursuit said:



jaawwnn said:


So what you're saying is it's Manic Monday?




This was my thought. The melody for MM is straight from "1999."

Wait until the OP hears "Baby I'm A Star" and "America" back to back.

Or queues up "17 Days," "Toy Box," and "Blue Limosine." Head's gonna explode on that one.


Wow toy box and blue limo are very close
Listen I'm not knocking
I'm.trying to figure out why possessed
Which is a great song was dropped. Well
He couldn't use that track twice right?
1999 much stronger universal theme
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Reply #11 posted 08/10/21 11:06pm

TrivialPursuit

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lovitzj said:

The drum track the groove is the same Blueprint. Trust me I didn't just pull This out of a hat. I mean go listen to The 1999 deluxe. It's the same I didn't come to throw out weird claims and start debates I think it's pretty clear to any musician what I'm saying


No one needs to trust you on anything. We have ears. We've been listening as long as you, if not longer. You're in a minority here.

The melodies of "1999" and "Manic Monday" are what's a rip of each other.

Cue "The Ladder" and "Purple Rain"

Cue "America" and "Baby I'm A Star"

Cue a lot of things, but "Possessed" is a straight ode to James Brown. The chords are different, the hook is different, "1999" is slower. They are not even sisters or first cousins.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #12 posted 08/10/21 11:09pm

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lovitzj said:


Very true I just truly believe he dropped Possessed for 1999. That is the Historical point I am trying to make


That doesn't make it true. There is no historical point to make. "Possessed" is a great song, but it wouldn't hold up on 1999 as an album. It doesn't fit the album as a whole. Frankly, it sounds more like something The Time should've gotten a hold of and recorded, and put their flavor on it.

Trust me, I didn't just pull this out of a hat. The songs on 1999 are stronger than "Possessed," (either verison). Wait - you did know there are two versions of "Possessed," right?


"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #13 posted 08/10/21 11:35pm

lovitzj

TrivialPursuit said:



lovitzj said:



Very true I just truly believe he dropped Possessed for 1999. That is the Historical point I am trying to make


That doesn't make it true. There is no historical point to make. "Possessed" is a great song, but it wouldn't hold up on 1999 as an album. It doesn't fit the album as a whole. Frankly, it sounds more like something The Time should've gotten a hold of and recorded, and put their flavor on it.

Trust me, I didn't just pull this out of a hat. The songs on 1999 are stronger than "Possessed," (either verison). Wait - you did know there are two versions of "Possessed," right?




You're basically agreeing with my point and adding to the
Possibility...
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Reply #14 posted 08/10/21 11:36pm

lovitzj

I give up. Nice vibe you guys lay down here.
[Edited 8/10/21 23:36pm]
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Reply #15 posted 08/11/21 12:02am

TrivialPursuit

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lovitzj said:

TrivialPursuit said:


That doesn't make it true. There is no historical point to make. "Possessed" is a great song, but it wouldn't hold up on 1999 as an album. It doesn't fit the album as a whole. Frankly, it sounds more like something The Time should've gotten a hold of and recorded, and put their flavor on it.

Trust me, I didn't just pull this out of a hat. The songs on 1999 are stronger than "Possessed," (either verison). Wait - you did know there are two versions of "Possessed," right?



You're basically agreeing with my point and adding to the Possibility...


LOL Again, just because you believe it doesn't make it true.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #16 posted 08/11/21 2:08am

jaawwnn

lovitzj said:

TrivialPursuit said:


This was my thought. The melody for MM is straight from "1999."

Wait until the OP hears "Baby I'm A Star" and "America" back to back.

Or queues up "17 Days," "Toy Box," and "Blue Limosine." Head's gonna explode on that one.

Wow toy box and blue limo are very close Listen I'm not knocking I'm.trying to figure out why possessed Which is a great song was dropped. Well He couldn't use that track twice right? 1999 much stronger universal theme

Well you should have been clearer then! I buy this. We can't prove it, but it makes sense.

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Reply #17 posted 08/11/21 5:14am

LoveGalore

He didn't use Possessed because he already felt the vibe was conveyed strongly enough and diversely enough across songs like Delirious, Something in the Water, LPWM, and LCD. Those songs pretty much delve deeply into the "satanic lust" idea and they're more diverse songs than a fat synth banger like Possessed. Tho I personally love the song, even I think it would be hard to replace something else with it and still avoid monotony.
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Reply #18 posted 08/11/21 1:27pm

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LoveGalore said:

He didn't use Possessed because he already felt the vibe was conveyed strongly enough and diversely enough across songs like Delirious, Something in the Water, LPWM, and LCD. Those songs pretty much delve deeply into the "satanic lust" idea and they're more diverse songs than a fat synth banger like Possessed. Tho I personally love the song, even I think it would be hard to replace something else with it and still avoid monotony.


Well said.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #19 posted 08/12/21 3:32am

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lovitzj said:

Dude it's the same exact track !!!


Dude, they're clearly not identical. They're quite different, even on the surface.

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Reply #20 posted 08/13/21 2:35am

lovitzj

jaawwnn said:



lovitzj said:


TrivialPursuit said:



This was my thought. The melody for MM is straight from "1999."

Wait until the OP hears "Baby I'm A Star" and "America" back to back.

Or queues up "17 Days," "Toy Box," and "Blue Limosine." Head's gonna explode on that one.



Wow toy box and blue limo are very close Listen I'm not knocking I'm.trying to figure out why possessed Which is a great song was dropped. Well He couldn't use that track twice right? 1999 much stronger universal theme

Well you should have been clearer then! I buy this. We can't prove it, but it makes sense.


My bad. I try to get into the mind of an artist
My bad if I sounded crazy. I was
Actually trying to be logical in
The virtually unproveable.
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Reply #21 posted 08/13/21 2:36am

lovitzj

LoveGalore said:

He didn't use Possessed because he already felt the vibe was conveyed strongly enough and diversely enough across songs like Delirious, Something in the Water, LPWM, and LCD. Those songs pretty much delve deeply into the "satanic lust" idea and they're more diverse songs than a fat synth banger like Possessed. Tho I personally love the song, even I think it would be hard to replace something else with it and still avoid monotony.

Welllll said. Perfect
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