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Thread started 06/08/21 8:13am

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When Doves Cry Remaster Available in Dobly Atmos on Apple Music

Hey there!

I just discovered that When Doves Cry from the 2015 Paisley Park Remaster is now available in Dolby Atmos on Apple Music - just that song, not the whole album. Has anyone listened to it? If so, thoughts on it? It sounds REALLY different! Sometimes in a great way, sometimes in a jarring way!

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Reply #1 posted 06/08/21 8:41am

BartVanHemelen

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Reply #2 posted 06/08/21 8:43am

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Reply #3 posted 06/09/21 1:41pm

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Actually, Not Wrong.

Apple have added Spatial Audio (Dolby Atmos) to their Apple Music Service. WDC is indeed now in Dolby Atmos

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Reply #4 posted 06/09/21 1:47pm

LoveGalore

thegreenpenguin said:

Actually, Not Wrong.



Apple have added Spatial Audio (Dolby Atmos) to their Apple Music Service. WDC is indeed now in Dolby Atmos





The wrong part is that this is the 2015 remaster. It is not. David Leonard mastered this from a 96k copy from original tapes.
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Reply #5 posted 06/09/21 2:32pm

cooldayla

thegreenpenguin said:

Actually, Not Wrong.

Apple have added Spatial Audio (Dolby Atmos) to their Apple Music Service. WDC is indeed now in Dolby Atmos

And it sounds amazing!

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Reply #6 posted 06/09/21 5:24pm

Musze

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cooldayla said:



thegreenpenguin said:


Actually, Not Wrong.



Apple have added Spatial Audio (Dolby Atmos) to their Apple Music Service. WDC is indeed now in Dolby Atmos






And it sounds amazing!



HOLY SHIT. What a revelation.
I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore...
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Reply #7 posted 06/09/21 5:58pm

Milty2

I dont stream on any music service but can you download the track from Apple Music?

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Reply #8 posted 06/09/21 10:11pm

LoveGalore

Crazy how much clearer the guitar solo and each individual vocal track are.
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Reply #9 posted 06/09/21 10:25pm

BartVanHemelen

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LoveGalore said:

thegreenpenguin said:

Actually, Not Wrong.

Apple have added Spatial Audio (Dolby Atmos) to their Apple Music Service. WDC is indeed now in Dolby Atmos

The wrong part is that this is the 2015 remaster. It is not. David Leonard mastered this from a 96k copy from original tapes.

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No, he did a new mix. I posted a link to the Facebook post of the studio where he did it, which has the text:

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David Leonard mixes "When Doves Cry."

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But apparently clicking a link is too much trouble for Prince famz.

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Reply #10 posted 06/09/21 10:25pm

udo

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LoveGalore said:

thegreenpenguin said:

Actually, Not Wrong.

Apple have added Spatial Audio (Dolby Atmos) to their Apple Music Service. WDC is indeed now in Dolby Atmos

The wrong part is that this is the 2015 remaster. It is not. David Leonard mastered this from a 96k copy from original tapes.

.

I.e.: it shows how bad the Paisley park remaster is.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #11 posted 06/09/21 10:25pm

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LoveGalore said:

Crazy how much clearer the guitar solo and each individual vocal track are.

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BECAUSE IT IS A NEW MIX.

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Reply #12 posted 06/09/21 11:52pm

udo

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BartVanHemelen said:

LoveGalore said:

Crazy how much clearer the guitar solo and each individual vocal track are.

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BECAUSE IT IS A NEW MIX.

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People have bad ears and cannot hear the difference between and MP3, CD, or highres audio.

People cannot discern exaggerated compression as is present on the Paisley Park `remaster` of PR.

People (at WB) do not have the spines to refuse this bad remaster.

People cannot explain what it is that makes this 'atmos' mix so different.

It makes it clear that providing a decent stereo mix still is a hard job these days.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #13 posted 06/09/21 11:52pm

paraded

When I first heard the Giles Martin Beatles surround mixes, my first thought after being blown away was: when will Prince get this treatment from a first-rate team of audio masters? The original Prince mixes will always be the original, the pure work of their creator, and will be cherished. But once you hear what's possible here, like in this WDC, it opens up other dimensions that are so rewarding. Let's hope we get whole albums this way, starting with D and P later this year.

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Reply #14 posted 06/10/21 12:27am

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I suppose that we can hear only this special Mix on D.Atmos system.....no other ways to listen this different Mix & differences on another audiophile system ?

thanx

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Reply #15 posted 06/10/21 1:38am

udo

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love2thenines2003 said:

I suppose that we can hear only this special Mix on D.Atmos system.....no other ways to listen this different Mix & differences on another audiophile system ?

thanx

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I explained that providing a decent stereo mix still is a hard job these days.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #16 posted 06/10/21 4:09am

LoveGalore

BartVanHemelen said:



LoveGalore said:


Crazy how much clearer the guitar solo and each individual vocal track are.

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BECAUSE IT IS A NEW MIX.



No shit. Are you even in this fucking thread?
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Reply #17 posted 06/10/21 4:55am

Milty2

LoveGalore said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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BECAUSE IT IS A NEW MIX.

No shit. Are you even in this fucking thread?


snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$

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Reply #18 posted 06/10/21 5:17am

udo

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Milty2 said:


snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$

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I do not understand why so many people get easily distracted and start playing on the person instead of writing about the thread subject.

They do not discuss most of his facts yet the perceived tone, choice of words or whatever is the taste of the day.

I guess that is kinda weak.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #19 posted 06/10/21 6:08am

LoveGalore

udo said:

Milty2 said:


snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$

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I do not understand why so many people get easily distracted and start playing on the person instead of writing about the thread subject.

They do not discuss most of his facts yet the perceived tone, choice of words or whatever is the taste of the day.

I guess that is kinda weak.


snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$

Can you please tell me what the RELEVANCE WAS FOR HIM TO TYPE AT ME IN ALL CAPS ABOUT IT BEING A NEW MIX? BECAUSE I DEFINITELY KNOW IT IS A NEW MIX AND MY STATEMENT THAT ITS CRAZY HOW YOU CAN HEAR THEM ALL SO INDIVIDUALLY WELL STILL STANDS. I HOPE YOU DONT MIND THE BOOMER FONT. THIS IS EVIDENTLY NORMAL, NO?

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Reply #20 posted 06/10/21 6:21am

Milty2

LoveGalore said:

udo said:

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I do not understand why so many people get easily distracted and start playing on the person instead of writing about the thread subject.

They do not discuss most of his facts yet the perceived tone, choice of words or whatever is the taste of the day.

I guess that is kinda weak.


snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$

Can you please tell me what the RELEVANCE WAS FOR HIM TO TYPE AT ME IN ALL CAPS ABOUT IT BEING A NEW MIX? BECAUSE I DEFINITELY KNOW IT IS A NEW MIX AND MY STATEMENT THAT ITS CRAZY HOW YOU CAN HEAR THEM ALL SO INDIVIDUALLY WELL STILL STANDS. I HOPE YOU DONT MIND THE BOOMER FONT. THIS IS EVIDENTLY NORMAL, NO?


snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$

That kind of confrontation litters this place.

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Reply #21 posted 06/10/21 6:25am

LoveGalore

Milty2 said:



LoveGalore said:




udo said:



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I do not understand why so many people get easily distracted and start playing on the person instead of writing about the thread subject.


They do not discuss most of his facts yet the perceived tone, choice of words or whatever is the taste of the day.


I guess that is kinda weak.





snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$



Can you please tell me what the RELEVANCE WAS FOR HIM TO TYPE AT ME IN ALL CAPS ABOUT IT BEING A NEW MIX? BECAUSE I DEFINITELY KNOW IT IS A NEW MIX AND MY STATEMENT THAT ITS CRAZY HOW YOU CAN HEAR THEM ALL SO INDIVIDUALLY WELL STILL STANDS. I HOPE YOU DONT MIND THE BOOMER FONT. THIS IS EVIDENTLY NORMAL, NO?





snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$ . That kind of confrontation litters this place.

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Reply #22 posted 06/10/21 6:30am

Milty2

LoveGalore said:

Milty2 said:


snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$

That kind of confrontation litters this place.


snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$


Rent or no rent, I couldn't care less. No one comes here to get UPPER-CASED! Lol.

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Reply #23 posted 06/10/21 6:45am

udo

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Do they offer a lossless download of this song?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #24 posted 06/10/21 6:54am

Milty2

udo said:

Do they offer a lossless download of this song?

Would love to know this.

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Reply #25 posted 06/10/21 10:43am

BartVanHemelen

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LoveGalore said:

You are right - it is entirely weak for that dipshit to @ me in his boomer font about it being a new mix when no fucking shit it is a new mix and I obviously know that because I've commented in this thread about it being a new mix.

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No, that is not what you wrote. Here are your words:

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David Leonard mastered this from a 96k copy from original tapes.

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Mastering and mixing are two different things.

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Reply #26 posted 06/10/21 12:48pm

LoveGalore

BartVanHemelen said:



LoveGalore said:






You are right - it is entirely weak for that dipshit to @ me in his boomer font about it being a new mix when no fucking shit it is a new mix and I obviously know that because I've commented in this thread about it being a new mix.



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No, that is not what you wrote. Here are your words:


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David Leonard mastered this from a 96k copy from original tapes.



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Mastering and mixing are two different things.



I truly do not give a fuck. For someone who makes his own mistakes right here for all to see, you are all too eager to point someone else's out. Quit being a toolshed and move the fuck on.


snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$
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Reply #27 posted 06/10/21 2:28pm

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This thread has completely confused me. I bought a month of Apple Music to listen to the DOLBY Atmos mix of When Doves Cry, and it doesn’t appear to be there.

So, let me ask his question, where can I listen to this new mix of WDC. Has anyone actually heard it yet
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Reply #28 posted 06/10/21 2:44pm

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JudasLChrist said:

This thread has completely confused me. I bought a month of Apple Music to listen to the DOLBY Atmos mix of When Doves Cry, and it doesn’t appear to be there.

So, let me ask his question, where can I listen to this new mix of WDC. Has anyone actually heard it yet
[Edited 6/10/21 14:29pm]


Nevermind. I just found it on Tidal. What a mess! To much treble. Terrible.
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Reply #29 posted 06/10/21 3:13pm

Milty2

LoveGalore said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Mastering and mixing are two different things.

I truly do not give a fuck. For someone who makes his own mistakes right here for all to see, you are all too eager to point someone else's out.



snip A good general rule: "criticize ideas, not people."

-of4$

Hehe

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