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Thread started 05/28/21 4:07pm

funkbabyandthe
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the album that will make ppl/critics better appreciate the npg era is

The undertaker

I dont think he ever quite nailed a good representation of this band on the records released as he could never resist adding more

But if the estate released this I think ppl will better understand what this particular era was about

It would inspire some reappraisal of the 93/94/95 period I think

And it would also make ppl appreciate his guitar work too

Fingers x the estate release it one day how prince wanted to
[Edited 5/28/21 16:08pm]
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Reply #1 posted 05/28/21 10:22pm

andrewm7

I would vote Exodus. That is a truly underrated album, and to the best of my knowledge iit didn`t even get an official US release until it crept unassumingly onto the streaming services.

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Reply #2 posted 05/29/21 1:20am

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Agreed! I find side projects like The Undertaker and The War more interesting than his albums from those years because you can hear the band play without sound effects and beats and segues that distract from the music.
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Reply #3 posted 05/29/21 2:52am

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Reply #4 posted 05/29/21 3:26am

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He really created magic whenever he, Sonny & Michael got in the same room together.
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Reply #5 posted 05/29/21 4:05am

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andrewm7 said:

I would vote Exodus. That is a truly underrated album, and to the best of my knowledge iit didn`t even get an official US release until it crept unassumingly onto the streaming services.

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Reply #6 posted 05/29/21 8:47am

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Exodus doesn't really show you anything you dont know about prince or the npg, good as it is

Undertaker shows you what the npg could do as a BAND
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Reply #7 posted 05/29/21 9:18am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

The undertaker

I dont think he ever quite nailed a good representation of this band on the records released as he could never resist adding more

But if the estate released this I think ppl will better understand what this particular era was about

It would inspire some reappraisal of the 93/94/95 period I think

And it would also make ppl appreciate his guitar work too

Fingers x the estate release it one day how prince wanted to
[Edited 5/28/21 16:08pm]

Bland told me that 4 them it was just one regular night lol
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Reply #8 posted 05/31/21 7:39am

TrevorAyer

Will the non 86 87 tracks on crystal ball are better than gold come and exodus ... and chaos .. i unsequenced that release and it works much better as 3 separate concepts
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Reply #9 posted 05/31/21 8:18am

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I think a decent compilation of that 93-95 or so era (give or take as you see fit) with outtakes, unedited versions, rare stuff etc. could actually be very, very good and make a real impression on music fans and those looking to understand his 90s music better. It'd have to be put together very well, akin to those 2CD James Brown comps, and it'd have to not be aimed at the pop charts, which the estate really struggles with understanding.

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Reply #10 posted 05/31/21 3:26pm

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andrewm7 said:

I would vote Exodus. That is a truly underrated album, and to the best of my knowledge iit didn`t even get an official US release until it crept unassumingly onto the streaming services.

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Sonny's weak weak weak weak vocals will ALWAYS keep this album from achieving much recognition.

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Reply #11 posted 05/31/21 4:45pm

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andrewm7 said:

I would vote Exodus. That is a truly underrated album, and to the best of my knowledge iit didn`t even get an official US release until it crept unassumingly onto the streaming services.


Warners took a pass on it apparently. https://sites.google.com/...q-may-1995
So it was meant to be released under his own name? But what an album it is. Every track is like a 4 or 5 out of 5. Alongside The Black Album it's maybe the funkiest record he's done.

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Reply #12 posted 05/31/21 5:08pm

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andrewm7 said:

I would vote Exodus. That is a truly underrated album, and to the best of my knowledge iit didn`t even get an official US release until it crept unassumingly onto the streaming services.

It just needed Prince as the lead singer. Sonny just doesn't sell the music the way Prince can. That album would probably be my favorite of the 90's with Prince as lead vocal.

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Reply #13 posted 05/31/21 5:51pm

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The NPG era. I need a definition of what era that is, as Prince kept using the name for so many different projects and as his ever-changing backing band. There are so many different formations, it's kinda hard to chose.

I do love the NPG trio a LOT as well, but I ALSO have a weakness for the ONA-era NPG, as the NPGmc soundchecks and CNOTE show; that band was indeed SO tight.

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Reply #14 posted 05/31/21 6:27pm

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Come is a better album than Around The World In A Day

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Reply #15 posted 05/31/21 9:18pm

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Liking Prince's music in the 90s is only a controversial topic for new fans. Prince put so much music that spanned so many genres that this is not surprising. Other artists with expansive libraries have the same discussions. See David Bowie's fandom. Some people actually like Bowie's 80s and early 90s material even though people only ever talk about the 70s and Blackstar.
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Reply #16 posted 06/01/21 1:54am

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lustmealways said:

Come is a better album than Around The World In A Day

Better at what? They're doing such different things I can't even compare.

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Reply #17 posted 06/01/21 6:51am

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jaawwnn said:



lustmealways said:


Come is a better album than Around The World In A Day



Better at what? They're doing such different things I can't even compare.


Lustme must really have a thing for prince making slurpy cunnilingus noises
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Reply #18 posted 06/01/21 10:09am

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No one cares about critics' thoughts. Besides, there's not much to be praised about Prince post 1980s.

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Reply #19 posted 06/01/21 10:47am

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kewlschool said:



andrewm7 said:


I would vote Exodus. That is a truly underrated album, and to the best of my knowledge iit didn`t even get an official US release until it crept unassumingly onto the streaming services.



It just needed Prince as the lead singer. Sonny just doesn't sell the music the way Prince can. That album would probably be my favorite of the 90's with Prince as lead vocal.


I guess Prince wanted the NPG to be like The Time: a way to release his most funky music with another frontman. He first tried it with Tony, then with Sonny and for the last album, he gave up and decided to do it himself.
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Reply #20 posted 06/01/21 10:59am

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All they have 2 do is release Exodus with the Prince vocals and it's a rap.

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Reply #21 posted 06/01/21 11:10am

misiu

...love 90 prince and the npg. But this project is just meh...boring as hell, weak vocals (dolphin, bambi) annoying guitar...
have u ever realised how much gain his mike must have had.. he is almost whispering the vocals ... no powerhouse vocals by the man , weak
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Reply #22 posted 06/01/21 11:14am

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My answer would be "The Gold Experience"...If they ever clear up whatever issue there is with "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World", that's an album that could be a hit all over again... probably even bigger than it was in '95. From what I've seen on the "Tube", the public really digs stuff from this album + era. So, with more exposure, it probably would really end up being looked at as the "Purple Rain" of the 90s as some describe it. Gotta include the full version of "Billy Jack Bitch". "P Control" is more relevant now than it was back then in a way in this WAP era. Even "We March" is more relevant now. Gotta get "Days Of Wild" on there as well. And re-release the TV special that went along with it...
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Reply #23 posted 06/01/21 12:07pm

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herb4 said:

andrewm7 said:

I would vote Exodus. That is a truly underrated album, and to the best of my knowledge iit didn`t even get an official US release until it crept unassumingly onto the streaming services.

This poster right here knows what's up.


I got my copy from 1-800-NEW-FUNK when it was new . . . does that count as a U.S. release?

I don't think Exodus is the best example of the NPG though. IMO it's the prince album.

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Reply #24 posted 06/01/21 2:29pm

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I think that Exodus AND the Undertaker are both really good answers. They've turned a lot of heads in my circles among rock and funk fans who didn't think they liked Prince. And even from a few who DO like him. They're both really good examples of the type of stuff he seemed to keep buried throughout his career for various reasons. Like, nobody who's never attended an aftershow really understands how good he was at just jamming.

Look at how many people comment on the R&RHOF performance with "I didn't know he could play like that!" In some ways, it was smart on his part.

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Reply #25 posted 06/01/21 6:42pm

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TrevorAyer said:

jaawwnn said:

Better at what? They're doing such different things I can't even compare.

Lustme must really have a thing for prince making slurpy cunnilingus noises

You're talking about less than a minute out of the entire album. And while I think Come, the album, is very underrated, it's not better than ATWIAD.

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Reply #26 posted 06/01/21 10:02pm

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

The undertaker I dont think he ever quite nailed a good representation of this band on the records released as he could never resist adding more But if the estate released this I think ppl will better understand what this particular era was about It would inspire some reappraisal of the 93/94/95 period I think And it would also make ppl appreciate his guitar work too Fingers x the estate release it one day how prince wanted to [Edited 5/28/21 16:08pm]


lol

You only got half of that right.

The Undertaken is the farken beast!! Love it!
Only peeve I have with it is that he doesn't continue with Zannalee. sad
Otherwise it would've been the perfect release. cool

BUT...... it is what it is, becasue only TWO of the NPG members where on it. wink



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Reply #27 posted 06/02/21 2:27am

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Se7en said:

herb4 said:

This poster right here knows what's up.


I got my copy from 1-800-NEW-FUNK when it was new . . . does that count as a U.S. release?

I don't think Exodus is the best example of the NPG though. IMO it's the prince album.

Excellent! where was it manufactured? I had heard that there might be some US promo copies out there, but I have never heard of a US stock pressing.

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Reply #28 posted 06/02/21 4:46am

jaawwnn

andrewm7 said:

I would vote Exodus. That is a truly underrated album, and to the best of my knowledge iit didn`t even get an official US release until it crept unassumingly onto the streaming services.

It's available on streaming services?

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Reply #29 posted 06/02/21 6:03am

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Ah yes, Exodus all day long. It also deserves a shoutout as one of the most accessible, commercial sounding albums he's done, along with Purple Rain and Dirty Mind. Hallucination Rain also sounds dangerously close to dream pop, a genre P said around 2014, 2015, he would never touch!



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